Cihuuy

Im not sure if you all have heard this news... it wont hurt to check it out...

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...256CB6007C3918

AlienSoul

That's awsome news! Thanks for sharing.

Jesuscookies

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I can't wait, but it does look like I will have a couple of years to save up.

Cihuuy

Cookie: u read my mind!!! By the time the rx7 comes out... hopefully ill have a good job or something, to buy this car! on the mean time... i still love my FD3S... hehehe

protlewski

Ok mental note save all forms of cash and live like a bum till it comes out...... got it. I just hope it isn't over 36K.

RotaryRevn

Sweet find! Thanks

Cihuuy

RotaryRevn:
i know u would do the same for us if you find anything abt the rebirth of the 7... hehehe

RE Matsuda

Whoa out of no where, and they even have a date, 2006. That's really not that far away, I can't wait to see some of their concepts for it when they come out. So it sounds like it's going to be an NA 2-rotor. Well if they make bigger rotors, they're probably aiming for 300hp I'm guessing, since Subaru seems to be raising the bar with the STi.

Bridgeported

Aiming for 300 hp? No way, it will definitely have way more than that. The RX-8 was originally planned to be released with 280 hp. They were going to have a 10,000 rpm redline (RX-8 is now 9,000) and the intake ports were slightly different shapes for more top end.
I imagine the new larger displacement Renesis (99% chance it will be a 1.5L since Mazda has always increased rotor width by 10%) will redline at 10k rpm and make at least 350 hp (flywheel).

Jeff20B

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I'd like to put a Renesis in my REPU. But what I'd really like is the 10mm longer per rotor engine you guys are talking about. The REPU and RX-4 were the first to get the new-at-the-time 10mm longer per rotor 13B, so I think that would be a cool project with more torque potential from natural aspiration than the 654mm 13B sized Renesis rotors could provide. It would also weigh way less than a 20B, NA or not.

Jeff20B

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I wonder how many people noticed I should have typed cc instead mm? And it only took me like four hours to realize.

protlewski

Yeah mazda in the early 70's was experimenting with larger rotors both wider and taller. when they increased the 13Bs housings 10mm (actually it was 20mm up from the 12A witch it was dirived) they had a 15A they also had made a 21A and a 22A (2 rotors!!) these had taller rotor housings.

unreality

It's too bad Mazda is a subsidiary of Ford now, though... I don't know if Mazda does like Jaguar does and 'borrows' Ford parts, but it would be a shame. Ford just doesn't machine parts like it used to...

Bridgeported

As far as I know, there are no interchangeable Ford parts on RX-7s - I could be wrong though.
Ford has also "lossened their grip" on Mazda within recent years.
Within the last 5 or 5 years Ford has broughten in a lot of new "higher up" employees, designers, executives and such. These guys seem to be helping out a bit - they brought out the Focus and are letting Mazda have more self-control.

Ford still sucks though!!!

Cihuuy

Question:
Do you all think that the 7 will be based on the Rx-01?? Or does mazda have another rotary engine car?

I was looking at the rx-01 in me computer... any1 can post 'em?? tanx

Bridgeported

The new RX-7 will be based on the RX-8.
Mazda has already said this.

protlewski

If its on the 8s platform there is no reason it couldn't hand a FD its *** in handling. But the thing is giving it enough power to pull an FD in the straight. I just hope this 15C renesis that they are talking about will put out over 310HP (1500cc rotary thats no prob) but with the larger rotors the engine would produce alot more torque (hopefully).

I want this to be THE car when it comes out for under $35K.

Sinful7

I got this from the RX8 forum

Bridgeported

The RX-8 already has proven it outhandles the FD Rx-7. There are specs posted by Mazda confirming this, and a few videos going around of an Series 7 FD and an RX-8 playing around on a track. The RX-8 is much quicker in the turns and the FD is slightly quicker on the straights.

That picture of the RX-7 concept has been going around for about 1.5 years now. I don't think it will look anything like that... it better not at least. The last thing I want is a 2800 lb sports car that looks like it weighs 3600lbs and was designed by a joint Ford-Nissan design team.
We want it small, low, and most importantly SLEEK!

Bridgeported

Damn, the more I look at that pic the more I think "That IS a total Ford-Nissan type of design!"

* inset pic of me puking *

knight1976

It would be nice if they modernized (suspension, aerodynamics, interior etc) the minimalist fb rx7 and slapped that Renesis in there. Whoa that would be one bad bitch. Possibly even keep it under 2700 pounds, and allow for running wider tires all the way around. I would give a kidney for a car like that.

Cihuuy

i agree that pix has been arnd for some time... im not saying that i like it, but im also not saying that i hate it...

Rx8 as the new 7... hmmmm... i hate the rear ends...

fritts

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RotaryNews posted the 10mm thicker rotors for the next RX-7 and gave a horsepower rating of 280. Another interesting note is that there is a post in the RX8forum that talks about a mazda engineer saying that there will be a surprise in Fall 2004 and it has something to do with a 280 hp na 10k rev rotary engine. Could it be that mazda is putting the engine that will go in the 7 into the 8 for those with a lust for more power.

Bridgeported

Old news, but since it's such good news, I can put up with readin it over again

The 2003 Rx-8 was actually planned to be released with the 10k rpm redlining Renesis making 280 fwhp instead of the 9k rpm redlining Renesis making 250 fwhp.

Mazda would never put the new RX-7 engine into an RX-8 as a top model option. If they did that, why would anyone even consider buy an RX-7 then?!?!

The HP rating for the new Rx-7 will almost certainly be more than 280 fwhp. If people rev the RX-8 engine up to 10k as planned, I woudlnt' be suprised if it makes around 270 fwhp.

So if the current one almost makes 280 fwhp at 10k, then the 10mm wider rotors increasing the displacement from 1.3L to 1.5L used on a 10k redline would EASILY make over 325 fwhp.

I'm going to stick by my prediction of the 1.5L NA Renesis and a 10k rpm redline making 320-360 fwhp.
The only thing I can't predict is the weight. It would be slick if it was lighter than the RX-8 (which is just over 2900 lbs). I can see it being less too, since it is more of a full sports car, and the RX-8 is a partial sports car partial family car, so lots of luxury crap (ie: rear seats) will be removed.

fritts

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As for the weight I believe somewhere someone posted something about 300 lbs lighter than the 8. If so your talking 2500-2600 lbs.

As for the horsepower, untill I hear a Mazda official actually say it will have over 280hp, my bet is it will be 280 hp as this was one of the most recent articles that actually gave a hp rating. What they need to do is not increase the redline but increase the torque down low. Which I think the thicker rotors would do. But with thicker rotors you have more rotating mass and a longer ec shaft adding to a slower rev that the renesis which would make me think they would not increase the redline...