Mazda to recall nearly all RX-8s
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Originally Posted by 13b4me
As nice as that sounds, we all know it's not true... Rotary engines must be driven a certain way, due to simple design flaws... It even informs you of this in the owner's manual... Unfortunately, the downfall of the rotary will always be the hand that feeds (or starves) it...
I firmly believe that Mazda thought they had sorted the RX-8 out. Lets be honest here, alot of cars now have 12months / 30,000 miles between services.
I can see your point though, as most car tests actually say you should check oil, water, lights etc everytime before you set out on a journey.
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Originally Posted by DS2000
I can't agree, if the rotary engine is still so fickle in this day and age then it shouldn't be sold to the masses, its as simple as that.
I firmly believe that Mazda thought they had sorted the RX-8 out. Lets be honest here, alot of cars now have 12months / 30,000 miles between services.
I can see your point though, as most car tests actually say you should check oil, water, lights etc everytime before you set out on a journey.
I firmly believe that Mazda thought they had sorted the RX-8 out. Lets be honest here, alot of cars now have 12months / 30,000 miles between services.
I can see your point though, as most car tests actually say you should check oil, water, lights etc everytime before you set out on a journey.
how many engine failures have their been for the renesis engines?
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Everyone,
The oil starvation problem was the result of Mazda miscalculating on one of it's earlier reflashes. Mazda has since corrected it with subsequent reflashes and the motors that don't pass the compression and vaccuum checks are being replaced.
Before RX-8 production ends, it will likely go down as being the largest mass produced rotary vehicle in Mazda's history. Some problems are bound to come up. The only thing I wish they would do is extend the warranty more than the paltry additional 10K (from 50 to 60K) miles. I believe that if the company truly stands behind rotary they should extend the warranty to 100K. This action would satisfy their current customer base and show prospective new owners that they stand behind their products and are confident in rotary reliability.
The oil starvation problem was the result of Mazda miscalculating on one of it's earlier reflashes. Mazda has since corrected it with subsequent reflashes and the motors that don't pass the compression and vaccuum checks are being replaced.
Before RX-8 production ends, it will likely go down as being the largest mass produced rotary vehicle in Mazda's history. Some problems are bound to come up. The only thing I wish they would do is extend the warranty more than the paltry additional 10K (from 50 to 60K) miles. I believe that if the company truly stands behind rotary they should extend the warranty to 100K. This action would satisfy their current customer base and show prospective new owners that they stand behind their products and are confident in rotary reliability.
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Originally Posted by RCCAZ 1
Everyone,
The oil starvation problem was the result of Mazda miscalculating on one of it's earlier reflashes. Mazda has since corrected it with subsequent reflashes and the motors that don't pass the compression and vaccuum checks are being replaced.
Before RX-8 production ends, it will likely go down as being the largest mass produced rotary vehicle in Mazda's history. Some problems are bound to come up. The only thing I wish they would do is extend the warranty more than the paltry additional 10K (from 50 to 60K) miles. I believe that if the company truly stands behind rotary they should extend the warranty to 100K. This action would satisfy their current customer base and show prospective new owners that they stand behind their products and are confident in rotary reliability.
The oil starvation problem was the result of Mazda miscalculating on one of it's earlier reflashes. Mazda has since corrected it with subsequent reflashes and the motors that don't pass the compression and vaccuum checks are being replaced.
Before RX-8 production ends, it will likely go down as being the largest mass produced rotary vehicle in Mazda's history. Some problems are bound to come up. The only thing I wish they would do is extend the warranty more than the paltry additional 10K (from 50 to 60K) miles. I believe that if the company truly stands behind rotary they should extend the warranty to 100K. This action would satisfy their current customer base and show prospective new owners that they stand behind their products and are confident in rotary reliability.
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yeah if anyone cares, so far they have all passed the testing, here
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after spending 30 seconds on research (what, i'm about to head to the bar), it is said that Ford owns 33% of Mazda. with that said, i don't think Ford has the power to pull any plug. a strong persuasive word, sure, but not full ownership.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
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Originally Posted by casio
after spending 30 seconds on research (what, i'm about to head to the bar), it is said that Ford owns 33% of Mazda. with that said, i don't think Ford has the power to pull any plug. a strong persuasive word, sure, but not full ownership.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
I think the rotary should be produced by multiple car manufacturers so the engine will become more and more competitve thereby giving us enthusiasts more options, creating more new parts, rotary mechanics, etc, etc so I'm really hoping they don't abandon this car. By the way, good luck with the bar I hear it's a tuffie.
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Originally Posted by casio
after spending 30 seconds on research (what, i'm about to head to the bar), it is said that Ford owns 33% of Mazda. with that said, i don't think Ford has the power to pull any plug. a strong persuasive word, sure, but not full ownership.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
if anyone can elaborate or correct me, please do. i understand that a owning a third of a company is an extremely large chunk, but it's not the whole pie. not even america owns all of america.
at this point mazda definately gets the good end of the stick, they seem to have a whole lineup of neat cars, and while not all of em are japanese like they used to be, the days of the $400 sunvisor are gone as well
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Originally Posted by j9fd3s
yeah if anyone cares, so far they have all passed the testing, here
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Originally Posted by trueimport
I dont know man that just doesnt seem right. Ever since my wife got her 8 brand new in 04 we would have to fill it with about 2qts of oil before each oil change was due. The car doesnt leak a drop and doesnt burn an ounce (that we know of). So how would opening the OMP a little sooner allow for better lubrication solve the problem. It seems to me that that would use even more oil that it does now.
In spite of all the stories, 2004 RX-8's have okay reliability. 2005 RX-8's have ridiculously good reliability, except for some rust problems. This is according to Consumer Reports. 2006 numbers aren't out yet, but CR predicts a drop. What a horribly biased article...
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