Gauging interest in RX-2, 3, 4 suspension parts
09-01-06, 07:57 AM
#26
Originally Posted by fchoncho
I'd be really interested in a bumpsteer kit also. I still have a set for my old Corolla (sold the car a while ago) and never checked to see how close it is. They're also usually called roll center adjusters or RCA's. They even have Negative Camber RCA's to give even more camber by moving the roll center adjuster outward.
If you make these will you include the extra long bolts required?
If you make these will you include the extra long bolts required?
1 set of sway bar blocks left after fchoncho goes for his.
Yes, turn in or roll center blocks is what I call them. I would build them on center. It is against my religion to add camber by changing the track. When adjusting suspension settings you always change one thing at a time. If a camber change also changes your track, then you have changed two at a time
OK, so we have 2 down for turn in spacers. Anyone else?
-billy
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09-05-06, 08:02 PM
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^ what exactly is a turn in spacer?... sorry for the no0bie question.
Also recieved the swaybar block today.. and I must say.. they look GREAT!
Thanks once again.
Also recieved the swaybar block today.. and I must say.. they look GREAT!
Thanks once again.
09-05-06, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by trainwreck517
^ what exactly is a turn in spacer?... sorry for the no0bie question.
Also recieved the swaybar block today.. and I must say.. they look GREAT!
Thanks once again.
Also recieved the swaybar block today.. and I must say.. they look GREAT!
Thanks once again.
The suspension geometry is changed when you lower a car. When you lower the car the lower control arm now sits as if the suspension was in bump (wheel further in the wheel well). This changes the outer pivot verses inner pivot relationship. Another way to look at it is that the lower control arm angle is changed.
By using a turn in spacer you are bringing the control arm back down. The spacer goes between the strut housing and the steering arm.
Now that you guys have seen the sway bar spacer blocks, would it not be cool to make some billet sway bar bushing brackets to complement the billet spacer blocks?
-billy
09-05-06, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fchoncho
I'd be really interested in a bumpsteer kit also. I still have a set for my old Corolla (sold the car a while ago) and never checked to see how close it is. They're also usually called roll center adjusters or RCA's. They even have Negative Camber RCA's to give even more camber by moving the roll center adjuster outward.
If you make these will you include the extra long bolts required?
If you make these will you include the extra long bolts required?
I have a set of strut casing laying around for AE86 I will take some measurement and see if they are a match with the rx casing.
09-06-06, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by bwaits
The suspension geometry is changed when you lower a car. When you lower the car the lower control arm now sits as if the suspension was in bump (wheel further in the wheel well). This changes the outer pivot verses inner pivot relationship. Another way to look at it is that the lower control arm angle is changed.
By using a turn in spacer you are bringing the control arm back down. The spacer goes between the strut housing and the steering arm.
Now that you guys have seen the sway bar spacer blocks, would it not be cool to make some billet sway bar bushing brackets to complement the billet spacer blocks?
-billy
By using a turn in spacer you are bringing the control arm back down. The spacer goes between the strut housing and the steering arm.
Now that you guys have seen the sway bar spacer blocks, would it not be cool to make some billet sway bar bushing brackets to complement the billet spacer blocks?
-billy
Hehe sorry for the newbie questions... new to this whole steering thing.
09-06-06, 07:47 AM
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Basically, when you lower the car with shorter springs, you bring the outer end of the control arm up and out, since it swings in an arc and would normally sit at an incline. The spacers would move your steering arm and control arm back down from the hub after lowering the car, so that it sits at its original location. They'll be physically closer to the ground, but it'll all sit at the same geometry as before you lowered the car.
09-06-06, 09:06 AM
#33
Originally Posted by islandsnow
If you want RCA talk to gave at Technotoy, he can make them for you with or with out camber.
Lets get a list together for turn in spacers.
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho - Maybe
4) Crit - ????
Lets get a list together for Billet sway bar bushing caps.
1) ???
-billy
09-06-06, 03:09 PM
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[QUOTE=bwaits]Hopefully if anybody wants some they would have us do them. We have already proven our manufacturing capabilities and our dedication to the old school rotaries.
Will you be making them with the negative camber built in. This will resolve the + camber issue when using the 1st gen Rx7 front suspension with out using a camber plates. ... and with the combination of camber plates you'll be able to get more camber with out cutting into the strut tower.
Will you be making them with the negative camber built in. This will resolve the + camber issue when using the 1st gen Rx7 front suspension with out using a camber plates. ... and with the combination of camber plates you'll be able to get more camber with out cutting into the strut tower.
09-06-06, 03:24 PM
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islandsnow, We will run them however the majority wants them. We just need someone to measure up how much offset there needs to be.
New lists:
Turn In Spacers
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho - Maybe
4) Crit - ????
Billet Sway Bar Bushing Caps.
1) banzaitoyota
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
New lists:
Turn In Spacers
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho - Maybe
4) Crit - ????
Billet Sway Bar Bushing Caps.
1) banzaitoyota
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
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09-06-06, 05:47 PM
#38
Originally Posted by islandsnow
RCA works great on old school toyota but I havent tried them out on the RX. If you want RCA talk to gave at Technotoy, he can make them for you with or with out camber. http://www.technotoytuning.com/
I have a set of strut casing laying around for AE86 I will take some measurement and see if they are a match with the rx casing.
I have a set of strut casing laying around for AE86 I will take some measurement and see if they are a match with the rx casing.
09-06-06, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fchoncho
Islandsnow, I still have my RCA's from my Corolla and tried to line them up on a 1st Gen (SA22) lower control arm. Not even close! So yeah, let's hope other members here want them too. I'd really like the Negative style RCA's myself!
OK you beat to it....Ok I'm gonna put my thinking cap back on and figure out the how much camber with out the camber plates and go from there.
You do know that if your using the negative camber RCA your wheel will stick out right? this may be an issue for those guys running wheels that are even with the fender. With the NCRCA it will stick out even more, but not an issue with the RCA.
09-07-06, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by islandsnow
OK you beat to it....Ok I'm gonna put my thinking cap back on and figure out the how much camber with out the camber plates and go from there.
You do know that if your using the negative camber RCA your wheel will stick out right? this may be an issue for those guys running wheels that are even with the fender. With the NCRCA it will stick out even more, but not an issue with the RCA.
You do know that if your using the negative camber RCA your wheel will stick out right? this may be an issue for those guys running wheels that are even with the fender. With the NCRCA it will stick out even more, but not an issue with the RCA.
Yeah, I'd take them either way, negative or just regular.
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09-11-06, 07:33 PM
#42
Last set of sway bar spacers have shiped.
Let's see:
Turn In Spacers
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
Billet Sway Bar Bushing Caps.
1) banzaitoyota
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
How far do you guys want to offset the camber on these things? TrainWreck, Crit, banzaitoyota you guys in on this?
-billy
Let's see:
Turn In Spacers
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
Billet Sway Bar Bushing Caps.
1) banzaitoyota
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
How far do you guys want to offset the camber on these things? TrainWreck, Crit, banzaitoyota you guys in on this?
-billy
09-11-06, 09:41 PM
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www.scottsoldautorubber.com.au has nolethane bushings for absolutely every suspension bit you could ever need. Also a good source for door seal and window molding kits. Shipping's excpensive, but you more than make up for it given how far a US buck goes.
09-11-06, 10:20 PM
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Billy, me wants in on the following:
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
2) Bern
and turn-in spacers, depending on the final camber offset
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
6) Bern
-Bern
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
2) Bern
and turn-in spacers, depending on the final camber offset
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
6) Bern
-Bern
09-12-06, 01:05 PM
#48
Second Run Sway Bar Spacers:
1) dgr8julius
2) Bern
Turn-in spacers:
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
6) Bern - depending on the final camber offset
7) banzaitoyota
Bern, what would you like to see in the way of camber?
-billy
1) dgr8julius
2) Bern
Turn-in spacers:
1) Jaime Enriquez
2) TrainWreck - Maybe
3) fchoncho
4) Crit - ????
5) Eric Happy Meal
6) Bern - depending on the final camber offset
7) banzaitoyota
Bern, what would you like to see in the way of camber?
-billy
09-12-06, 01:12 PM
#49
Turn-in spacers:
I didnt read the whole thread but is this compatible with my current set-up? Stock lower control arm with 85 non-GSL-SE strut assembly. if it is, then count me in for a spacer as well as the front sway bar spacer.
Also, my RX-3 came equipped with rear sway bay. If anyone is interested, I will be more than willing to send it Billy so he can fabricate it. But it has to be after Sevenstock.
I didnt read the whole thread but is this compatible with my current set-up? Stock lower control arm with 85 non-GSL-SE strut assembly. if it is, then count me in for a spacer as well as the front sway bar spacer.
Also, my RX-3 came equipped with rear sway bay. If anyone is interested, I will be more than willing to send it Billy so he can fabricate it. But it has to be after Sevenstock.