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Old 09-25-08, 10:16 PM
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TX Front Wheel Drive Trans for the Rotory

Is there a front wheel drive transmission that will mate to the 13B? I know it sounds crazy but there is a reason for it...
Old 09-25-08, 10:27 PM
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never heard anything about this being done... i could be wrong people do some crazy stuff out there to 7's... if you don't mind me asking, why you want to do this???
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I've seen a FWD Rotary Civic before (I'm pretty sure it was on here, try searching for it). They probably used an adapter plate to the stock Honda trans or something like that.
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yeah i remember that rotary civic, they used an adapter plate mated to a k20 transmission
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Again I will say a Luce stock FWD turbo rotary.
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Originally Posted by shika805
never heard anything about this being done... i could be wrong people do some crazy stuff out there to 7's... if you don't mind me asking, why you want to do this???
I am probably about to part out my 7 and I thought I might take the motor and see if it will fit in my MR2 just for $h!t$ and giggles...
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if that was the case you don't need a FWD trans, you just need a transaxle. Bring in the Beatle. There are adapter plates for Dunebuggies for this purpose.
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luce was rwd automatic transmission. I will say again, not luce.

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http://www.kennedyeng.com/

they make adapters to vw/porsche

i want to build a rotary powered porsche 911 some day
Old 09-26-08, 01:56 AM
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i belive the MR-2's actually usea FWD transaxle not the tipical Transaxle as seen under the porsche 914. i'm going to LKQ tomarrow i'll look to see if i'm right.
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well they make adapters for v8s, 4 bangers, anything to mate to a vw/porsche tranny.. so maybe contact em to see if they could make one for u
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Originally Posted by Airceo13
yeah i remember that rotary civic, they used an adapter plate mated to a k20 transmission
Hey they use a K20 on the ariel atom 3, maybe they need to have a 13b turbo or a 20b turbo for the ariel atom 4 sweetness!
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Originally Posted by RETed
No.


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Yes.

Give Kennedyeng a call and let us know what happens.

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Originally Posted by dawicka2
luce was rwd automatic transmission. I will say again, not luce.

john ny
Ok i was wrong on the turbo bit, but there was a Luce that was FWD and had a rotary along with a few others.



and thar she be 69-72 r130/luce, I was confused on the newer luce and thought that they were also FWD but the 72 luce was the last production rotary powered FWD made.

there was also the 67-77 NSU Ro80



and the 74-77 Citroen GS Bi-Rotor

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This is a pic of the engine bay of a 97 fwd toyota tercel with a rotary engine! its in spanish but on post #6 shows the pics! the 3 pic on that post is a suzuki Forza but that one is FR.

http://www.east.carrito.net/board/sh...d.php?p=576903

seen the car in person and the swap was clean if i remember correctly one of the mods he sayd made it difficult was the starter!
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Originally Posted by g14novak
Yes.

Give Kennedyeng a call and let us know what happens.
Where?

This?
http://www.kennedyeng.com/mazda.htm

That's for mating a 13B to a Porsche transaxle...which still mounts the engine longitudinally and not transversely as the majorty of FWD engines are mounted.

How the **** you stuff a longitutinally mounted engine mated to an originally RWD / rear mounted engine up front?


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Has Ted seen a Subaru?
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Originally Posted by C.A.R
I am probably about to part out my 7 and I thought I might take the motor and see if it will fit in my MR2 just for $h!t$ and giggles...
Don't waste your time if this is what you want to do.

MANY MANY have tried this, none have done it...yet.


I don't remember the exact reason but part of the engine it just a tad to big and interfers with a critical part of the frame or soemthing like that.
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Originally Posted by BLUE TII
Has Ted seen a Subaru?
13B mated to a Subaru trans in FWD...
Interesting project...

Not.

The Subaru boxer engine has a low center of rotation.
This 13B does not.
Either the car is going to have a 4x4 stance just to give enough clearance for the motor, or the engine is going to end up digging into the ground.

Nice try...


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The boxer engine has the crank right in the middle of the block just like the rotary and has the intake stacked on top.

Yes, the Subaru engines are high in the engine bay because of the above as well as their deep oil pan and they do have a long hood.

It was an example of

How the **** you stuff a longitutinally mounted engine mated to an originally RWD / rear mounted engine up front?
There are many other examples of factory production cars that used a longitudinal engine mounted ahead of a transaxle in front wheel drive format.

And several examples of 13bs in Subarus with engine adapter plates... no lift, no lower ground clearance.
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The Russians make a knock off 13B that is fwd, iirc. They have a club with quite a large following. It's their version of the F&F crowd. There was a thread about them on this or one of the other rotary forums. Perhaps in the European sub-forum?
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Here's my car. It is a Matra Murena It's a french sportscar with a transversal engine in the back. Like a MR2.
Two years ago converted to rotary power.

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I used an adapter plate to mate a 12A with a toyota gearbox.
More info on www.maztra.nl


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