finky

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Ok I am not getting rid of my RX-7 but an interesting project car just sparked my fancy. I know a guy with a 72 Opel GT good condition ready to paint $1000 obo. It has a 1900cc in it now. I am thinking a 13b. Does anyone know if anyone has tried to do this mod? Am I just dreaming? Any imput at all would be cool.

JGard18

It would take a good amount of modifications to make it fit. My father also has one of those Opel's. Sweet cars.

But trying to fit a Mazda drivetrain into a GM car isn't going to be the easiest fit... so I think that with enough money and resources, it could be done, but I don't think it'll be too easy...

Turbo FB.

There's a guy running around L.A. with a TPI 350 chevy motor is his car. Fitment is tight and hoodhas a big az scoop, So dare to be diferent and toss a Rotary in that thing.

rxrotary2_7

you want different type of project? a vw bug w/ a rotary. there is one here in jersey that runns 11's. he uses a 91 high compression motor and stock FD twins running 16lbs of boost. dont ask me how....racing beat sells eveything you need to fit the motor to a vw or porshe trany.

maxpesce

Talk to Jim Hagerty @ Mariah - They have an Opel GT in the shop undergoing conversion to Rotary power - I think it is getting 2nd gen suspension bits also.
http://www.mariahmotorsports.com/

easy p-cheesy

that made me think. what about a porsche 914 with a rotary? what are your thoughts on that?

finky

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it brought up good ideas while it lasted but the car has recently been sold. I did like the other ideas of cars w/ rotary. The 13b is so small and light any project car sounds enticing. My dad is building a 32 ford coupe kit car and I tried to talk him into a rotary but all he knows is the tried and true 350.

finky

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it brought up good ideas while it lasted but the car has recently been sold. I did like the other ideas of cars w/ rotary. The 13b is so small and light any project car sounds enticing. My dad is building a 32 ford coupe kit car and I tried to talk him into a rotary but all he knows is the tried and true 350.

Jeff20B

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This used to work. http://www.monito.com/wankel/convert-german.html It had a few pics of a red porsche with a 13B in it.

rxrotary2_7

there was just a 914 on ebay w/ a rotary (minus the motor) it was all set up for it to be dropped in. last i saw it was going for abut 1k.and some change.

Maddyn

I'm working on putting a 13B into an Opel right now. I had gotten an Opel given to me a few months ago and was trying to figure out what engine I wanted to put in it (stock one isn't all that great) And a 13B seemed about the best bet for power and size. The Opel engine bay is somewhat small, so the roatary should work great.

I'm picking up another Opel this weekend since the one that I have now has a lot of rust damage and isn't worth fixing. So right now I'm in the process of finding a 13b engine to drop in. If anyone has any suggestions of what year to go with that'd be a big help. I'd like to go with fuel injection, and I'm thinking a 89' non turbo, I'd like to go with a turbo, but don't know if I can afford it.

I plan on keeping pics and a write-up as the project goes along, I'll drop a link later once I get a site up.

finky

iTrader: (2)

hey maddyn that is cool you decided to dothis mod. it sounded good to me. As for the year of engine it mostly depends on what you are doing with the 6 ports. No air pump in 86-88 no need of backpressure on 89-91. I guess it also depends what you can get the cheapest w/ the least wear. Keep us updated I want to hear how it goes. Maybe another Opel will float my way.

Speed Addict

Ok, Get a J-spec TII motor for ~$1000 complete with turbos, intake and exhaust manifolds, then you need a computer to control it, let's say a standalone Haltech E6K, that's $1500, plus you will need the TII tranny or an adapter to mount a different tranny. So for under $5K you should be up and running if you do all the work yourself.

treceb

Hey maddyn, is that an GT or the opel that looks like an R100/RX2??

rxrotary2_7, wheres that gut with the bug from and where does he race?? Id like to take a look at that thing.

rxrotary2_7

i have seen him at atco a fe times. i think he is from A.C.

ChrisV

A 13b turbo, with all plumbing, takes up a LOT of space. The basic engine itself is quite compact, but with everything else, it would be extremely tight (if it fit at all) in the normal Opel engine bay (for the GT) designed around an uncluttered, upright inline 4 cyl. A stripped down N/A engine would probably go well, though it's still a bit wider than the I4. Plus, with all the turbo and intercooler plumbing, you're looking at closing in on 400 lbs, which is about a hundred more than the 1.9.

Still, if done, it would be a cool swap!

Maddyn

well I've decided to go with the N/A engine due to the conclusions that you came to. Having all the turboi plumbing in there would just be too much to try and fit in the opel engine bay. N/A just makes it a lot simpler and easier too.

The problem I'm having now is deciding what year engine to put in. I'd like to run a 89-91 engine because of the higher stock HP rating, but I'd also like to strip off all the emissions crap, including the air pump which I've been told is used to open all the ports on the 89-91 engines??? (man I need to get a tech manual and read up more)

What I don't know is if I can get as much HP out of the older engine and do away with the air pump and everything, or if taking off the air pump on the newer engine wouldn't gain me very much and just not worry about leaving it on.


But things are in motion, I've got the engine bay stripped down pretty well, need to sand blast it down and get it cleaned up, get the cash to buy an engine once I figure out what I want, then I get to have fun making engine mounts


Anyways, if anyone has some thoughts with the emissions thing, leme know.

pjr

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Heree's something a bit different. A 72 Beetle with a Chevy 454 V*. Outside looks almost totally stock except for wheels/tires and some extra ventilation.... it can be done!

trinimazdax

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yo i have a 12a in my mazda b2000 but i wana put a 13b turbo in there , any sugestion's and does anyone have a goond engine for sale ?

rxrotary2_7

try talking to a guy named "judge ito" on this forum he owns jr rotary in north jersey. he has a turbo truck.

repuguru

I hope your going to drag race the GT because despite its Covette like appearence it is a Cadet underneath.

SIX TWO SLEEPER

yeah, but with the 1900cc those things flew! (as opposed to 1100cc, 1300cc models)

And it's Kadett!

PoRkFeSt

Wot r u thinking?????

wdwflash

As to Racing Beat selling VW to Rotary adapters. I believe they get their adapters from Kennedy Engineered(they have a web site.) Kennedy also makes racing clutchs-pressure plates-flywheels. I know about kennedy because I put a '87 Turbo II into a 1800lb '78 kit car based on a '74 VW pan. They make adapters for a wide range of engine/trans swaps. They make a real quality product.

repuguru

Yes, Kadet is the way it is spelled. I rode in a car pool as a child in a early 70's Kadet wagon.