We hear these every so often, and here is yet another one, but I figured I would pass it along:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=141987

 

Sounds like its going to be a screamer... lightweight 270 hp..

I can see the swaps now. 16x in a FB rx7 and 13brew swaps to Rx9.

Can't wait to see it!

 

that would be sweet, knowing the way **** is going, they would do some weird thing that would make it so it is hard to put one in a older rx. or something.

 

sickness

 

American's have turned too soft. Even with the 20% increase if fuel efficiency and the lighter car, the increase of tree huggers and laws being created by the second will stop this kind of car from being produced. I hope it does get created, but I fear it will never come to America.

Maybe it is just my location (college town) but every time I drive the freeway, cruise around town, or flat out drive anywhere, I find it hard to find anything remotely sporty and worth while even looking at. I have found two, yes two, people in Pullman and Moscow that might have a clue. Then again, Pullman and Moscow ID have the largest percentages of Subaru owners in the US. (I have been told and from my observations would have to agree.)

I hope Mazda doesn't do something stupid like make it a 4 door. The problem is it is SO easy to screw up the rx7, it would be very hard to get it right.

 

+1 tweak

 

that sounds sick, im really curious to see what there talking about for the rev matching clutching system. i hope mazda comes through with this platform over here.

 

rx9 existed... why would mazda succeed the rx7 the same monikar...
specially if the rx9 was a four door sedan...

 

Probably a variation of the rev-matching system the Nissan 370z has most likely.

 

N/a?!?! Ftl

 

I have wondered long and hard about why more sports cars don't use turbos.... If you had a large(er) turbo on there it would not spool easily while driving around normally. That would mean that the car would get MPG, but when they do their dyno runs to post their power specs, they would still get the advantage of having the turbo. (making more power) Basically you could have the best of both worlds, good MPG when driving like a grandma, and power when needed...... I just don't understand why there are very few stock cars even coming out with turbos. Penny pinching sons a... I am going to have to fall back on my original statement that America is to soft now. It has lost its zoom zoom. Everyone is a zombie just doing what everyone else is doing instead of having fun. I guess Mazda (and other car manufacturers) have realized this and have changed the way they make cars. (Example, the way hummers are useless now lol.) Anything that is special has become much more useless now when everyone is the same. :/

 

270hp? thats it. even with the car being so light, they neet to raise thoes numbers. look at the sport cars that stand out these days and their numbers. i think to compete in todays market they have to bring that hp number around 350.

 

Hey, my daily is a Subaru legacy :P. Not going to drive a pristine FD around in a college town. **** would get wrecked really quickly.
But one thing you have to remember is that people in our area are poor college kids. People around here don't have the money for nice cars (most, anyways). And the people that do, are mostly hicks with big *** trucks.

 

Have you ever drove a 350 rwhp turbo rx7? America is NOT ready for that. If Mazda is a super ninja war division secretly trying to take out all the people in the US with zoom zoom personalities, that would be a great idea.

So many problems with a 350 hp rotary for an average person. Even with 1.6L I really don't think our engines can have a nice flat easy torque curve. This will make it peaky and hard to drive causing a lot of accidents.
Emissions would be stupid hard to pass.
Production costs would skyrocket in order to maintain any sort of reliability in the engine/car. With today's penny pinching Americans, that wouldn't be a good thing for sales.
People that don't know the rotary engine, don't trust it. You see that every day with someone that doesn't have a clue at Schucks or Napa starts telling you how your eating to much oil and about to break an apex seal. If mazda made a 350 rwhp turbo rx7 stock, at an affordable price, it would HAVE to be lacking reliability, and if mazda want's to try and improve the image of their engines, that would be the last thing they would want to do.

I say, make ANYTHING. Make me anything as long as it is a 1.6L. NA, boosted, super charged, walrus powered, anything. We, the zoom zoom people will take it, fix any problems, (make stronger apex seals, port jobs, add meth injection, change what ever), and boost the **** out of it till we find what the next problem is. It is only time and money; look at all the boosted rx8s. I really don't care about emissions, I just want the extra .3L. A 24x engine sounds like the PERFECT mid life crisis. Not sure if it is better than my already planed 3 rotor factory five GTM though.

 

350hp rating at a reliable life span would not be to difficult to make, especially since the 13B-MSP Renesis was designed to address those problems that the 13B-REW had. Power delivery, Fuel Consumption, Emissions, and apex-seal failure. 16x (Renesis 2) takes the 13B-MSP and addresses better compression, stroke, power delivery, Thermal efficiency, and boost curve. Because they were able to achieve this, hydrogen can now be used in conjunction with the 16x. Seeing 270hp is very conservative with the design, especially when comparing that the engine addresses all the problems that the 13b had while boosted.

You gotta remember that the Japanese are all about technology, and with the current days trend in auto marketing expect to see some devices in your suspension, transmission, and brakes that will really make the simple hardcore rx7 fans sick to their stomach. any new RX chassis in the future will be a kick in the ***** to current rx7 and rx8 owners and fans.

 

Yeah... I don't like all the computers in the new cars. My g/f has a 2004.5 volvo s40 and I wanted to install some FACTORY fog lights in it. I was just going to order them and install, but I got bored one night and did a little research. I am glad I didn't because the FOG LIGHT COMPUTER has to be RE-FLASHED by the factory in order to make it work.

FOG LIGHT COMPUTER ...

.....fog
light .....
computer ...

OMG, I wanted to find the closest Swedish looking or sounding person and stab them repeatedly. lol. (I just typed out a HUGE rant about volvos and such but deleted it because I wanted to keep this convo somewhat on track. And I think volvo owners have it hard enough. :P )

 

Umm.. the HEAVIER FD came stock with only 255...

and it was not just a competitor for the cars of its time. I think a lighter vehicle with todays suspension technology and more power would be a perfect platform to build a car from.

 

try making 270 na on a 13b while passing california smog and getting 20-25 mpg all the while making it affordable and reliable....... i think we have too high of expectations besides i would rather them put there efforts into the suspension geometry and balance of the car and leave us with making it fast.

 

Wow, I am really excited to see how this car turns out. :crosses fingers:

 

Glad to see that Maz is still taunting us with a new RX7 after god knows
how many years. Also glad to see that instead of ditching the rotary they
keep on refining the hell out of the thing, it's really getting better with age.

So a two-pedal six-speed? I'm trying to visualize this but am at a complete
loss. So what? There's two engagement pedals or.....? Are they talking a
paddle shifter? So what now? Instead of doubleclutching we'll be *triple
clutching right? lol

So anyway, trying to decipher that, it sounds almost like they have a second
pedal that when engaged will keep the rev's at X RPMS? So no RPM drop? I
dunno that entire sentence confuses the hell outta me.....

You can't be ******* serious? This is worse than my old BMW having a computer
solely to control the seats. When I removed it in favor of Sparco's it locked my
entire car, no start, no diagnostic, no door unlock, simply stupid. Agreed, you
need a PH.D in computers just to work on your cars now a days, its sickening.....

 

Agreed.... double clutch pedal? match/hold the RPM? personally- no thanks, just put in a quality transmission/clutch/shifter with proper ergos..... less bullshit to go wrong, none of the extra weight either. KISS.
The manufacturer's constant desire to 'refine' and redefine the sports car is ruining the experience for the driver looking for a car that puts the driver in control.... refer to the Ariel Atom- pure, simple, nothing unnecessary, bloody fast, and extremely agile.

Frankly, they have some lofty goals for the engine... but in many ways I doubt it comes here or is affordable if it does get built.... the SA, FB, & FC were sold in large numbers here because they were affordable cars that had great performance for the time(bang/buck was good)..... they should return to that model. For the US market, a small displacement turbo V6 or V8 that revs to the moon would be the easy way to go... JMO

I believe it.... it's complete BS that they have to have computers for almost every part now, even if they claim anti-theft as an excuse.... It's the Mfg's way of making you go back to them for ALL modifications.... if they had their way they'd have the hoods welded shut, no aftermarket would exist, and you'd buy a new car for an oil change. IMO the only computer on a sports car should be the ECU, there are plenty of other ways to prevent theft. once again, KISS.