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Old 12-02-10, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TerrorismSux
This is ONLY true when your engine is hot. If the engine is COLD START and you get white smoke, then this is NOT the case, as the vapor will condense in your exhaust and collect/eject in liquid form when cold.

Friend on the phone right now says, try changing your oil. He said, to tell you to change your oil to a heavy weight, 50W race oil with new oil filter. If that doesn't stop the smoke, check compression in your rear rotor to ensure you haven't blown rear rotor. His name is Chris, not sure if he is a member here but he works at auto zone here, good dude.
Not quite true. Condensation will occur, but will result in such a miniscule amount of smoke that it should barely be noticeable.

Large amounts of smoke at startup is probably due to coolant leaking past the seals while the system is still hot and pressurized.
Old 12-02-10, 12:31 PM
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Also keep in mind that if the smoke smells like fuel then check your injectors. I had this issue with one of my s5s. If this is the case check out a company called Injector Rehab out of New Jersey they work magic with fuel injectors.
Old 12-02-10, 03:47 PM
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Don't know if there are Conklin products in the USA.. they use to have a coolant stop leak can't even remember what it was called but you could take a styro cup full of water just room temp and stab a hole in the bottom of the cup .. The darn thing would stop leaking before the cup was half empty you could actually see a leak slow and stop especially on a rad where something might have stabbed a small hole .. I sold the stuff from my service station I don't know how it stood up with time but I never had anyone complain either.. they also stated that it wouldn't plug coolant passages.. I haven't seen it for a long time .. They had many additive products that actually worked .. Had thee coolest little pair of folding scissors they could cut a beer bottle cap in half like nothing (That's just what I was told ) anyone ever try the stuff???
Old 12-04-10, 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by EricRyan
+1 Kentetsu

But you've convinced me to try this 5 dollar fix first.
Its always good to start with the simple solutions if it does the job unless you know for certain that the situation is in need of serious work. Fortunately for me, I was able to luck out on a simple fix. Temp or not it did the job.
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Ok guys I tried this alumiseal for 5$ and it worked the car stopped smoking and was able to run without smoking a cloud
Old 12-05-10, 07:53 PM
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With all the crappy products on the market it's nice to know there are still a few products that actually does what the manufacturer claims, but have you noticed that most of the good stuff has been around for a long time ...
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yeah I have noticed that, gerald. especially things like oil filters and air filters.
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Originally Posted by angeltiger
Ok guys I tried this alumiseal for 5$ and it worked the car stopped smoking and was able to run without smoking a cloud
Oh yes I forgot to mention that the car had been sitting in my drive way for a year since it started smoking and leaking coolant and I was worried about finding an engine or rebuilding. This helped now the car is driving around. I know its a temp fix but at least its buying me time.
Old 12-06-10, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by angeltiger
I know its a temp fix but at least its buying me time.
I know what you mean, I was really worried that I would have to fork up 1500 for a new engine plus install. And as a full-time student money is hard to come by. But its all good for now cuz I don't have to worry about it as much since the issue is resolved for the time being.
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alumaseal worked for a buddy of mine. im not man enough to try it
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lmao. After 20,000 miles of hard testing without a recurrence of the issue, you'd think that eventually people would stop calling it a "bandaid" or "temporary" fix.

For Pete's sake, I drive the damn thing halfway across the country, beat the hell out of it for five days straight, then drive home again, all without using a drop of coolant! Every year!

And for every person that you see posting positive results on this, there are many others who fixed their issue and then never came back to report. I've advised a couple of dozen through PM alone, with only two negative results (both because exhaust gases were being blown into the cooling system).

Oh well, maybe someday they'll catch on. In the mean time, my motor is still great and I'm happy to be able to help others with this advice.
Old 12-10-10, 04:52 PM
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My car is now on the same boat as the rest of the chimneys with the whole smoke issue. I've already gotten a few estimates on rebuilds but tomorrow I'm going to give this alumiseal a shot (if I can find it in struass or autozone). I'll keep you guys posted, hopefully I'll have the same success as the rest of the troops... Wish me Luck!!!
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alumaseal, imma try you. wish me luck too guys
Old 12-11-10, 02:40 PM
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The only time that I have heard of the Alumaseal not working, is when you have combustion gases blasting into the cooling system, as opposed to coolant being forced into the combustion system. And even then, it will occasionally work even though I don't understand how it could. It would seem impossible, since you don't have the pressure of the coolant forcing the Alumaseal against the problem area.

But as long as you've got white smoke coming out of the exhaust system, you should be all set.

Please do keep us posted...
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Sooooo, today I was only able to add only half the alumaseal treatment bc my radiator was not as empty as I thought (NO GOOD). Gave my car a fresh set of ngk's (Bottom 1st had oil along the plug but the head showed no signs of raw oil) along w 4quarts of castrol 20/50 n half a bottle of Lucas. wasnt able to dump the whole bottle of alum n drive it but the oil on my plug wasn't a good look. Also as I was trying to warm my engine up, up front via the carb I notinced my dipstick was letting out pressure on occation..... FML!!!
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Alumiseal saved the day

Caught this thread while researching: hard starting / white smoke / shuddering / low coolant alarm. Got some Alumiseal and pulled the trigger as the engine would have to be rebuilt anyways. Worked as advertised.

Originally Posted by Kentetsu
lmao. After 20,000 miles of hard testing without a recurrence of the issue, you'd think that eventually people would stop calling it a "bandaid" or "temporary" fix.

For Pete's sake, I drive the damn thing halfway across the country, beat the hell out of it for five days straight, then drive home again, all without using a drop of coolant! Every year!

And for every person that you see posting positive results on this, there are many others who fixed their issue and then never came back to report. I've advised a couple of dozen through PM alone, with only two negative results (both because exhaust gases were being blown into the cooling system).

Oh well, maybe someday they'll catch on. In the mean time, my motor is still great and I'm happy to be able to help others with this advice.

Pretty sure my exhaust is leaking into the coolant. The overflow tank has black (non algae and doesn't look like weathered oil, but I'm a noob) oil scum in it. The alumiseal is holding or at least prevents the coolant from entering the rotor chamber when parked. Another possible contributor to success: try not to boost until a new core is procured.
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
The only time that I have heard of the Alumaseal not working, is when you have combustion gases blasting into the cooling system, as opposed to coolant being forced into the combustion system. And even then, it will occasionally work even though I don't understand how it could. It would seem impossible, since you don't have the pressure of the coolant forcing the Alumaseal against the problem area.

But as long as you've got white smoke coming out of the exhaust system, you should be all set.

Please do keep us posted...
You my friend, are heaven sent! Since adding the alumaseal on Sat. & running her for about 30mins after, I've had 2 cold starts @ 30 degreeish temperatures & NO PUFFY WHITE CLOUD out the exhaust!!! I didn't even get to add the whole bottle of the stuff (a little more than half), should I being that it appears to have worked??
Thanks again, keeping my fingers crossed that it continues this way.
Now on to my next issue/headache... Lol
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I think im like the sixth person to post about having the same problem. So I, as well, will look for external leaks before trying Allumi-seal.
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well i was told by kent that i should try it in my windstar. i never did since it wasnt a big problem but it has oil in the coolant resevoir, so if i can find it imma use it now since my coolant was almost gone the other day. and on my seven i get regular start up smoke not much but just barely a little(its also maybe 0-20 degrees out) my car dies out a few times when starting it. but my coolant after a few drives is nearly gone, so its not a big problem yet but just to be on the safe side imma add some alumaseal to the seven just for added safety. so when i get paid both vehicles are getting some alumaseal........btw on the windstar it like drizzles coolant from the pipe..........not the seven tho seen none coming out
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Glad to hear that others are having the same success that I saw. You wouldn't believe (well, some of you might) how happy I was that I didn't have to pull my engine again when I had that bad coolant seal. And after two years, she's still happy. Now I just can't wait for all this damn snow to melt so I can start living again. Why do I live in Michigan!?!
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yea i have like 3-4 feet of snow covering my seven.......
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I tried alumiseal on my '87 and it worked great. I was about ready to donate the car as the cost of rebuilding the engine far exceeded it value. $2.49 later and the car is working great.
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Dang guys!!! it looks like my engine couldn't hold out!! After about a solid 2 months my car was running at optimal level and then I started losing coolant again and long story short, it turns out I will have to do a rebuild.

Does anyone have any advice on some solid rebuild kits that are of college student price lol (if there is such a thing). I took a look at the ones that atkins rotary sells and they seem like the cheapest of the trust worthy bunch that I have seen. I hope that everyone else that replied to this thread doesn't have what happened to me. I mean, I am not hating on alumnaseal because it is a great product and works but some damages are too far gone that that 3 dollar miracle that is alumnaseal just won't work sometimes lol

Thanks,
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so the alumaseal got u a little ways?
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Originally Posted by canonize-ryda
so the alumaseal got u a little ways?
Yeah I was able to drive it no problem for a while there but I think the problem was already to far gone that the alumnaseal was just slowing it down for the most part. So now I have to go and tear the engine apart to see what happened and to see if I made any damage to the internals (which I am just hoping that nothing is damaged as far as internals).


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