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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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My bad, I mis read that post and spoke to soon,
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 06:32 PM
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and now name calling? i figured he was being sarcastic, stating to go to rxclub when were obviously in it already, and to go to something called a thread, which were already in. didnt think it was necessary for him to state very obvious and simple stuff.
i dont have a problem with any of the info he gave about suspension, it was very good and helped
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 06:38 PM
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Hey evil aviator can we please not categorize me with all Honda loving teenagers? Thank you. Lol. Im really a chill dude ur first post i didn't like cause you gave me 0 useful info AND said I couldn't drive, to me that's an insult. Just saying. Thank you guys for all the helpful info including evil aviator, I didn't know about those shops, my car will need to be retuned soon so that should help.(following the three mods rule)

With all the info u guys gave me and a couple of hours of researching, I changed my mind. I'm gonna go ahead and buy a poly bushing kit.

I don't mean to change the subject but does anyone know where I can get inner and outer tie rod ends? I saw some at the rx7store but don't if the inner and outer are identical.
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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E A was probably frustrated. I understand that. You try to help by giving GOOD advice, even though that's not what they really want to be told. And then some dip-**** who's owned his car for 2 days posts up some nonsense and cancels out your efforts. You made the right (mature) decision...in this case putting off your wants until your needs are met.

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........I don't mean to change the subject but does anyone know where I can get inner and outer tie rod ends? I saw some at the rx7store but don't if the inner and outer are identical.
They aren't identical. For either you must go to MAZDA. Search the 3rd Gen. section for the number to "Ray" at Malloy Mazda. He owns an FD and I swear he's got the part numbers memorized. A trusted long time supplier of OEM parts....and he can usually beat other suppliers prices...even with shipping. Tell him your a forum member.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by black_fd2134
Hey evil aviator can we please not categorize me with all Honda loving teenagers?
Oh, sorry, I wasn't categorizing you with Honda loving teenagers. However, I was categorizing Honda forums with teenagers who encourage all kinds of silly ideas because they don't know any better. If you have posted on any of them you will know what I mean. We do have a few of those types on this forum, but not many.

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Im really a chill dude ur first post i didn't like cause you gave me 0 useful info AND said I couldn't drive, to me that's an insult.
The useful information in my first post was that if you think your car doesn't handle well, then either there is something VERY WRONG with it, or you need to learn how to drive the car. I don't think either of those have been resolved at this point.

As for the part about driving school, I think that maybe you don't understand the context. I am referring to professional race training, not high school driver's education, lol. Driving school is required before a driver can compete in sanctioned racing evernts, and it is a good idea for anybody who likes to drive sports cars at their limit. If Mario Andretti wasn't insulted by going to driving school, then I hope that you are not insulted either.

The reason I know that you are not a good driver is because you have not been able to pinpoint the handling problem of your car, nor have you described in technical terms the problems it is having. My definition of a good driver is somebody who performs well in autocross or racing events. For example, the two race shops that I mentioned earlier have staff members who are national racing champions, are sponsored by Mazda, and/or have competed professionally in endurance racing at 12hr Sebring and 24hr Daytona. I can assure you that these guys are good drivers and would be able to help your situation more than any internet post. I realize that you may not have the time, money, or desire to use their services, but I figured that I would mention them just in case. The next closest endurance race shops are in Atlanta and Spartanburg, but I think those are even further away from your location.
http://iscracing.net
http://www.pettitracing.com

Just to let you know, I have some autocross experience, some driver training, I am a member of SAE, SCCA, Mazda Drivers Club, and the Mazdaspeed Motorsports Development program, and I am NOT a good driver. The standards of this forum are a lot higher than the Honda forums.

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With all the info u guys gave me and a couple of hours of researching, I changed my mind. I'm gonna go ahead and buy a poly bushing kit.
That's probably the better option, but I still think that you are making a mistake by not diagnosing the problem first. Oh well, if you plan on replacing every part on the car anyway, then I guess it doesn't make much difference.
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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My issue with the suspension is as folllowed, it feels softer than it should, I haven't owned more than 1 FD so the only thing I can honestly compare it to is my s2000. I'm not sure if it's the bushing or the older springs and shocks but I get way more body roll in the FD than I did on the s2k. Like I said I have 235s on the wheels now and I'm loosing traction sooner than I would like to. It doesn't feel like the car is firmly planted on the road around turns but almost like the rear wants to come out the whole time.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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RX7club is one of the best forums out there. Whoever replies you with an essay, those are the REALLY helpful ones and please pay respect. Rotary is a rare community, we do not point fingers to each others.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
New people from the Honda forums tend to not be able to tell the difference between help and bashing because they are not accustomed to anything but encouragement from well-meaining yet ignorant teenagers. After a while he will figure out how this forum works, and that sometimes the best advice is when somebody tells you that you are making a mistake or in over your head.


I don't see anything wrong with that post. If you complain when somebody takes time to give you useful information, then they will tend to not help you in the future. The majority of the moderators on this site work as volunteers, the forum members do not receive any compensation for helping noobs, there is no charge for this forum, and there is no requirement for anybody to help you or treat you as if you are Jesus Christ. If you are that hypersensitive then maybe internet forums are not the best place for you.

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These guys are trying to give you good advice not bashing.
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by black_fd2134
My issue with the suspension is as folllowed, it feels softer than it should, I haven't owned more than 1 FD so the only thing I can honestly compare it to is my s2000. I'm not sure if it's the bushing or the older springs and shocks but I get way more body roll in the FD than I did on the s2k. Like I said I have 235s on the wheels now and I'm loosing traction sooner than I would like to. It doesn't feel like the car is firmly planted on the road around turns but almost like the rear wants to come out the whole time.

Couple of points...

The stock FD suspension has pretty soft springs. That is probably one of things you are feeling.

Whether your tires are 235s or 285s or 16s or 20s doesn't matter. Its not the size. Its the quality. Crap tires won't grip.

Shocks and tires are what control traction. Bushings are what position the suspension components so that shocks and tires and the rest of the system can do their jobs.

If you have clunking, then you probably need to replace the pillowballs bushings. Personally, i'd stick to the stock bushings if budget allows except for certain locations like the diff, toe links and trailing arms. You don't gain a lot from poly bushings - I can say that as I'm running poly bushings.

Focus on maintenance and replace tired, worn components.

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Old Feb 16, 2012 | 02:43 AM
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Haha, this is good reads!
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