fricx

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I have THREE separate factory keys for my FD.

Key 1: Only opens & locks the driver's side door. Can't do anything else.

Key 2: Only opens the glove compartment and starts car. Can't do anything else.

Key 3: Only opens & locks passenger side door. Can't do anything else.

NONE of them can open the rear hatch; that has to be done from the inside.


WTF? I've never seen or heard of any cars like this before. At first I thought it was just normal, but now it's gotten on my nerves having to carry around THREE keys with a ton of other keys I already carry. Btw, another FD buddy of mine says he only needs one key. What's wrong with mine?

Any thoughts? Thanks!

misterstyx69

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I will assume that it has had more than just the original owner as it sounds like Someone replaced the tumblers.
The Passenger side is prone to getting broken..

Sgtblue

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Yes, one key SHOULD open everything as well as operate the ignition switch. Someone previous to you has been busy.
Complete lock sets with key come up occasionally in the Parts For Sale section. Don't know about the ignition, but the doors are a little fiddly.

Mr.JTurboII

you can get a locksmith to redo the locks so all matches the ignition key. but it will cost you some nice $$$. imo just keep the 3 keys, its not worth what it ill cost. and why dont you just keep the ignition and driver door keys, if 3 keys is soo much to keep. most cars from the 90s had 2 keys anyway so its not that big of a deal

archaphil

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The dealers around me, the parts guys will re-tumble the locks for free if you remove them and bring them up to them.

fricx

Doesn't make sense though. Why would the two extra keys have the Mazda logo on it? The FD didn't come with valet keys, did it?

CrimsonPride

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^
FD did come with a valet key but it would look different. The valet should be a flat all-metal key.

ricardo.benin

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You are going to have to re key all the locks to the key that works on the ignition key. I went through this before and it cost me $30 for each lock. I had people wanting to charge me like $100 for each lock which is a rip off so don't fall for that one.
Thanks

fricx

The ignition key is round, all metal with the old Mazda rotary logo on it. The key that can only open the driver's side door is square with rounded corners, all metal. The key that opens only the passenger's side door is round just like the ignition key.

Did you have 3 different keys too? I'll have to find some place around here with that lower rate. That makes me feel better. Thanks!

Mr.JTurboII

The only reason you would have unmatched locks, is if it was swapped out, either from breaking or someone trying to steal it

ricardo.benin

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I did not have multiple keys I bought a 94 rx7 from a wrecking yard and it had no key as the car was a theft but anyways I went to mazda to get my key code and it turned out that the key only worked for the ignition and rear hatch so I had to pull my door locks out and they matched the key to my door locks by putting new pins in the tumblers but anyways the people who fixed my lock did an excellent job and it was cheap. Pm me for additional info if needed, BTW I believe the people I went to will except the locks and the key if you ship it to them.
Thanks

fricx

MYSTERY KEY # 4. Whaaaat?

So I just took a look at my second set of keys (two sets from previous owner). Turns out there's a fourth one (original Mazda). I tested it out, and it works on EVERYTHING except the driver's side door. So it's almost a master key. Weird.

key 1: only driver door
key 2: only ignition & glove
key 3: only pssngr door
key 4: Everything but driver door

So each door has its own individual key that works only on itself. Those of you saying you only have one key for everything, are you the original owners? Can anyone attest that Mazda did not in fact ship their FDs brand new with 4 different keys?

In any case, looks like I'll only have to change out one lock to match this "almost-master-key".

CrimsonPride

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Back in the day I couldn't come close to affording a new FD but I did buy my FC new in 1991. It came with 2 round plastic keys that said "mazda"(these worked everything) and one all metal flat key with the logo. That was the valet key that didn't work the glove box. Never heard of new car coming with lots of keys that work 1 thing each... very unlikely.

If I was working this problem, since this is an old car I would oil (or some other lube if better, I always used oil) each of key slot and retry all keys to make sure I had accurate results. I usually oil the slot by oiling both sides of the key an using it.

If things still don't make sense I would go to Mazda or somewhere I could buy a key by the VIN. It may be possible some of these keys could have been made by a locksmith with Mazda blanks that was going by the pattern and haven't been cut properly.

Is there much slop in any of your locks, if so, if some of the keys are more recent they could have trouble working with the wear that is present. In those cases, I have had some success by wire wheeling with a drill the key to put a little wear on it.

Based on key 1 and 4 sounds like the driver door being rekeyed is a possibility but that doesn't explain everything. Maybe there is more that one thing going on here.

RotaryBobby

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i have an fc and i am the 2nd owner, but i have the two round keys and the one flat metal key plus the plastic emergency key. so im gonna assume the fd came with the same. although unlike the op all the keys work for everything besides the plastic one since its still uncut.

Sgtblue

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Likely you've got some badly made keys, or copies made from descending copies. Probably also with some changed locks. One key should work on everything.

lduley

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hold the keys up to each other and look at the cuts, it will be very obvious if you have a badly cut key, or a key thats completely different

Sgtblue

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None of these as described is an original key. Original will be silver metal body with a rounded/oval head covered with a black plastic cover bearing the old "toilet bowl" MAZDA logo.
Bought my car with low mileage 11 yrs ago. 3rd. owner. I'm confident I'm still using the OEM key and it opens everything, including storage bin and glovebox. I have the valet key somewhere but don't remember what it doesn't open. Never used it. Still, if you don't believe me....
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...y-keys-267773/
If they're for different locks, yes. But in my experience they can look very close as a result of successive generations of copies. Same general profile but maybe a little vague, with spacing being off a little. Regardless, they won't work.