SaveTheRx-7

Honda Guys do it all the time. They put a Honda B20 Block from a CRV with a B18 Head and a Turbo... Bang! they get 700+whp.
I am Building my rotary version of this.. It consists of Renesis Side Plates, GSL-SE Rotor Housings with semi-PP intake, Machined 88 Turbo II rotors ALS seals etc., Twin Turbos and 16X style direct NOS injection. I know somebody in Orlando, FL tried something similar and failed. If anybody done it, I will like to learn from failures before finishing this Rotary Super Car project. Goal is 1,200WHP

Aaron Cake

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I'm just going to say it: not going to happen.

No point using Renesis plates. If you are going to build a high HP 13B, then you will either go full peripheral port (the only way you are going to approach 1000HP) or semi PP with side ports and peripheral exhausts.

But the prospect of you building a 1000+HP 13B is very unrealistic. There are only a handfull of those around and anyone who has accomplished it are very tight lipped. It will take you multiple blown engines to figure it out and it seems you don't even know where to start.

I'm not trying to rain on your parade here, but you have to look realistically at your goals and think "Do I even know what is involved?".

Start slow. Build a mild engine of about 300HP, which is easily accomplished on any old 13B and a smallish turbo and use it to learn how to tune an engine. Then up the power to the 400HP level, which is where you start spending money.

If, after a few years of messing with that stuff, you want to make that 1000HP engine, you will then know that the only way to realistically make a 1000HP street rotary is either on a 20B or with a 4 rotor.

canonize-ryda

not like its a realistic answer but my buddies 20b with race exhuast, race plugs with tuning done for best spark. race intercooler, race twin turbos,cold air intake,semi pp, hi flow injectors, and most every part able to be modded and he only pushes 990 hp with around 850lbs of torque ... its at the wheel but i feel he can get more power... just seems to top out there.. he has the most expensive racing parts. maybe more fine tuning to squeeze more out of it?

sen2two

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First, if you had the know how to build a motor like that, you would not have to ask any questions.

I put one very similar together (all motor though), But I never ran the engine. So I never seen what the results were...

6 port renesis plates, 12a center, 13bgsl-se rotor housings with a semi-pp... Not as easy as bolting it up and off you go. There's some good thinking and modification in doing this.

Good luck homey.

BASTARD

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couldn't have said it better myself

SaveTheRx-7

Yes, I know it sound kind of unrealistic. But it is done all the time down in Puerto Rico, Miami, Orlando and New York. Edwin (Loquito Killer) just pumped 1250WHP out of a customer's Toyota Starlet with a 93 Rx-7 motor with stock rotors, Pinned & ported with ALS Apex Seals. He even drove it down the 1/4 at a record breaking 6.84@201mph and then again for 7.03 letting go the gas to shift into second(due to wheelspin).
see below...

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofC90mD8Z5M

By the way he is the one helping me build this motor and he believes we can build more power with this experiment.
Neverless there is more than a dozen 13B motors doing over 1,000whp in Puerto Rico, just take a tour over http://http://www.grs-motorsports.com/

I've been playing with Rx-7 a long time and I know the right people to get this going. My questions for sen2two is "Why did you stop your Hybrid project?"

Keep the faith... It can be done in an Rx-7, with just a good old 13B.

Aaron Cake

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Which one of those people are you?

Anyway, good luck. Be sure to post back here when you're done...

joeylyrech

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Savetherx7 Loquito knows hes **** i know that you know that(the motor on my car is one of his motors)but the idea of a hybrid RENESIS,FC,FB motor with over 1000hp is insane,all this guys building 1000HP 13Bs are using the same combo,FD or Cosmo plates,semi p ports,big turbo,ect,ect.They spent over 30 years to get this numbers using the above mentioned parts that are not even close to a RENESIS setup,this drag motors are making power thanks to combination of small p ports and huge street ports even full bridged p ports combos that so far cant be copied with a RENESIS keg.I saw a MIAMI car on the dyno with a well known tuner running a RENESIS hybrid and the power that they got out of the motor was lame and they scrap the project(if you know loquito you should know this person 2)Twin turbos on 13Bs drag car had been used in the past but the results were not the best,look at the MALVADITA STARLET.When it was running twins it was the slowest of the bunch now running a semi single turbo setup is down to 7.4.My point is that the older 13Bs are proven to produce over 1000HP easy(yes i said easy cuaze i seen it done several times)but the RENESIS is far from getting there but if you have LOQUITO backing you up and the money to do it go for it and prove me and the others wrong,Go for it and good luck!

Aaron Cake

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Exactly. Build the engine and post up the dyno graphs to prove us all wrong instead of asking basic questions. Can't wait to see the finished product.

SaveTheRx-7

Thank you Joeylyrech, PM me or I'll PM you with the contact info so I can learn from his facts of the failure. Loquito did not mention me he know someone doing this, that's why I opened this Thread since I heard somebody in Orlando failed doing it.


Thank you sen2two, I'll PM you later to find out more info on testing.

Aaron Cake

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At this point, a better forum to discuss this in would be the Rotary Performance forum instead of New User:

https://www.rx7club.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=77