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Old 02-24-09, 01:49 PM
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GA front wheel drive rotory?

has anybody heard of a front wheel drive rotory car? i was wondering about one in a civic hatch...my friend want my motor if he can put it in...i now the ecu and things would have to be swaped but any other info would be great!
Old 02-25-09, 02:28 AM
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Well you would have to like mount the engine a different way since the tranny would have to be going to the front 2 wheels. Seems kinda like a pain, what year civic are we talking?
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they have a front wheel drive rotary in a mazda 5.
its like a minivan and its a hybrid.
not sure when and if they are gonna start producing them but the same thoughts have crossed my mind as well.
i've seen civics converted to rwd with rotaries but thats about as close as i've seen.

https://www.rx7club.com/old-school-other-rotary-63/fwd-rotary-engine-720185/

there's one.
searching google and this site brings up a lot of interesting subjects on the matter.
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yes...there is a full drag CRX in P.R. with a rotary and it has been converted to RWD and everything. i even believe it has a wheelie bar and everything!
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its like a 94 hatch...how hard is it to convert to rearwheel? has anyone seen a all wheel drive 7?
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A couple of years ago I ran across a Russian rotary website. As usual, the Russians stole and made thier own knock off version to the 13B, then stuck it in an older civic sized chassis with fwd. Rod Millen built his own version of an AWD 2nd gen for the Pikes Peak run, quite successful. Iirc, the drivetrain components were, or were based off of an older Mazda 323, (GTX?).
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There was one front drive rotary car produced by Mazda years ago, but I forget what it is. I want to say it was the Luce, but that's incorrect. It may have been a 929 in the mid eighties. Not a very popular car.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
There was one front drive rotary car produced by Mazda years ago, but I forget what it is. I want to say it was the Luce, but that's incorrect. It may have been a 929 in the mid eighties. Not a very popular car.
i think it actually was the luce. the first one anyways.
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There was a dude on RX8club, I think last year.... I think he was trying to fit a Renesis into a Hyundai Accent.
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Originally Posted by romycha1
There was a dude on RX8club, I think last year.... I think he was trying to fit a Renesis into a Hyundai Accent.
haha really?
how'd that work out for him?
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http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Mo...n-24008813.htm

This is a very old link and there used to be a pic. The owner claims it was front wheel drive.

Lada makes a russian version of the rotary engine. Im guessing its gotta be like a newer KKM motor but they are FWD. Heres a link for anyone whos interested.

http://cp_www.tripod.com/rotary/pg07.htm
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Originally Posted by Zanity
haha really?
how'd that work out for him?
I don't know. He of course got flamed. Then got into an argument on why it would be a logical swap, then got into an argument about power/weight I think... then I stopped paying attention
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
There was one front drive rotary car produced by Mazda years ago, but I forget what it is. I want to say it was the Luce, but that's incorrect. It may have been a 929 in the mid eighties. Not a very popular car.
Nope, not incorrect. R-130 Luce. The only application in which the 13A was used. Not sure of the exact year range, something like '71-73, and only in Japan.

There have been custom FWD rotaries done. I've seen a couple of Civics: there was a green EG hatch with an old-school 4-port 13B, and if I remember right the other was an EK with a 13BT. I know I've seen others, but I can't remember what they were.
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Yes

I have atually seen this done in my home town it was in a old ef civic and i believe it was for sale again on new zealand trading site www.trademe.co.nz

it can be done with some custom mounts etc. motor will mount to honda box with an adaptor plate i think or it may even mount straight up with some custom holes lol. i remeber seeing it. i was like ae??? thats mounted east west lol
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This is exactly what you are looking for

http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2274994
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Originally Posted by tane
its like a 94 hatch...how hard is it to convert to rearwheel? has anyone seen a all wheel drive 7?
Mazda made a concept car that was a 3 rotor awd all wheel steering.
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Originally Posted by atlem2
This is exactly what you are looking for
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2274994
I love it! But 800HP? Ha, I want in on the crack pipe he's smoking.

Looks like a setup capable of mid 400s based on the size of the turbo and the small hot side. The stock S4 manifold is a big cork in the exhaust. There are some pretty major flaws in that setup.
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Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
I love it! But 800HP? Ha, I want in on the crack pipe he's smoking.

Looks like a setup capable of mid 400s based on the size of the turbo and the small hot side. The stock S4 manifold is a big cork in the exhaust. There are some pretty major flaws in that setup.
and its kinda funny, he has all that piping made, but still used the stock manifold lol.
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Yep, that's the one I was thinking of. And here's the engine bay of the green EG:

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Thats what I was thinking of if that car is located in AU. I thought it was an EF though?
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Thats fine and dandy, but why would you want one?
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looks expensive
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what about the NSU? FWD rotary, inboard disc brakes, ect. made before mazda really got hardcore into it. and pretty advanced for its time.
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Enjoy the read, but most of the pictures have been taken down it seems.



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