night TSD rally, Sat 11/18, in Mount Kisco NY (Westchester)
11-07-06, 04:56 PM
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night TSD rally, Sat 11/18, in Mount Kisco NY (Westchester)
http://www.wscc.org/flyers/2006TurkeyTourFlyer.pdf
TimeSpeedDistance rally on a Saturday night, 11/18/06. Registration from 5 to 6:30, drivers meeting at 6:30, first car off at 7pm. Cars leave in 1 minute invtervals from your car number, so first come first start. Should be about 2-4 hours (usually 3ish). You need TWO people (driver and navigator) and a nightlight (so the nav can read the directions), and $20 per car ($10 each). Recommended: a pen, something to write on on the nav's lap (like a clipboard), a basic calculator (or a nav who likes math), and a watch/clock with seconds that you can easily reset to the rallymaster's time. Rally computers, GPS systems, and lights above headlight level not allowed. Trophys for the winners of each class.
What is it? A TimeSpeedDistance (TSD) rally has an "average speed" that you should follow through the rally. Its set BELOW the speed limit. The rally instructions are very tricky and you're looking for stuff at night (ie: make 3rd left after the word "STRINGS", or make second acute right, etc) so you're going to make a few bad turns. After you figure out you're in the wrong place you have to backtrack to the correct turn without getting lost, then speed up to get back to your "average speed" (where you would be if you didnt get lost). There are hidden signs along the course you need to mark down, and hidden checkpoints where you pull over and they record what time you came in. Points are given for every second early or late to each checkpoint, and for each sign missed or put out of order. Lowest points win.
So questions like "is this illegal" "dude this is awesome I'm gona go 175mph" "wont we all get arrested" are silly since thats not what the rally is about. Some people do it in minivans with their kids in the backseat helping look for turns. Some people show up in AWD cars with CB radios and big foglights. If you make a wrong turn or get lost, its up to you if you choose you catch up slowly and safely and risk hitting a checkpoint and getting lots of points, or if you drive like an *** and risk getting pulled over by a cop or taking risks so you can make up time as quickly as possible and get a better score. There will be mostly twisty hilly backroads where you probably will never see a cop, but they are also public roads and you take any risks on your own. I can guaranty you will enjoy them a lot more in a sports car "taking a few risks" than a minivan full of kids tho. The roads are a blast usually including some dirt and gravel roads.
TimeSpeedDistance rally on a Saturday night, 11/18/06. Registration from 5 to 6:30, drivers meeting at 6:30, first car off at 7pm. Cars leave in 1 minute invtervals from your car number, so first come first start. Should be about 2-4 hours (usually 3ish). You need TWO people (driver and navigator) and a nightlight (so the nav can read the directions), and $20 per car ($10 each). Recommended: a pen, something to write on on the nav's lap (like a clipboard), a basic calculator (or a nav who likes math), and a watch/clock with seconds that you can easily reset to the rallymaster's time. Rally computers, GPS systems, and lights above headlight level not allowed. Trophys for the winners of each class.
What is it? A TimeSpeedDistance (TSD) rally has an "average speed" that you should follow through the rally. Its set BELOW the speed limit. The rally instructions are very tricky and you're looking for stuff at night (ie: make 3rd left after the word "STRINGS", or make second acute right, etc) so you're going to make a few bad turns. After you figure out you're in the wrong place you have to backtrack to the correct turn without getting lost, then speed up to get back to your "average speed" (where you would be if you didnt get lost). There are hidden signs along the course you need to mark down, and hidden checkpoints where you pull over and they record what time you came in. Points are given for every second early or late to each checkpoint, and for each sign missed or put out of order. Lowest points win.
So questions like "is this illegal" "dude this is awesome I'm gona go 175mph" "wont we all get arrested" are silly since thats not what the rally is about. Some people do it in minivans with their kids in the backseat helping look for turns. Some people show up in AWD cars with CB radios and big foglights. If you make a wrong turn or get lost, its up to you if you choose you catch up slowly and safely and risk hitting a checkpoint and getting lots of points, or if you drive like an *** and risk getting pulled over by a cop or taking risks so you can make up time as quickly as possible and get a better score. There will be mostly twisty hilly backroads where you probably will never see a cop, but they are also public roads and you take any risks on your own. I can guaranty you will enjoy them a lot more in a sports car "taking a few risks" than a minivan full of kids tho. The roads are a blast usually including some dirt and gravel roads.
11-07-06, 05:52 PM
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i just did a TSD Rally in vermont in my Legacy GT. it was a lot of fun. like he said, its nothing that will pump your adrenaline, but its a great way to get into the rally world or spend a great weekend. speeding is not encouraged, and actually hurts you. if you show up early you get penalized, if you show up late you get penalized. you want to be at the checkpoint at a specified time, so the closer the better.
i encourage anyone with a non-lowered car to do it. there was a Civic running in a pack of mostly subarus. granted it finished last, but it finished. and if you are late (at least in SCCA NER) due to some unforseen cause (cows crossing road, political movement, school bus, bees, etc.) you can take a time allowance in 30 second intervals (30secs, 1min30secs, up to 19min30sec.). there are a lot of great sites on information for TSD rallys from what to expect or how to read instructions. you can check www.NER.org and go to competition corner, then Road Rally/Rally Cross, then Info.
unfortunatly im not going to be able to make this event. good luck to all who go. its a lot of fun and a great way to see the countryside.
i encourage anyone with a non-lowered car to do it. there was a Civic running in a pack of mostly subarus. granted it finished last, but it finished. and if you are late (at least in SCCA NER) due to some unforseen cause (cows crossing road, political movement, school bus, bees, etc.) you can take a time allowance in 30 second intervals (30secs, 1min30secs, up to 19min30sec.). there are a lot of great sites on information for TSD rallys from what to expect or how to read instructions. you can check www.NER.org and go to competition corner, then Road Rally/Rally Cross, then Info.
unfortunatly im not going to be able to make this event. good luck to all who go. its a lot of fun and a great way to see the countryside.
11-14-06, 03:58 PM
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This is a night rally so you wont see much countryside. I've been one some wussie day rallies, like you said nice scenery. This is more tough and competitive.
Its this Saturday, anyone coming?
Its this Saturday, anyone coming?