dude, that really sucks. that was pretty much the scenario that i'd conjured up in my head for so many years that kept me away from using epoxies (and subsequently from venturing into the wonderful world of peripherals). i'll keep my fingers crossed that it'll hold together - especially given how i chose to do my ports.

yeah, i must admit that i'm a bit tempted to try one of those RxParts manifolds after seeing that thread that RotaryBoyz started. it would likely make my life so much easier as far as intake is concerned - one less uphill battle, you know? however, at this point i think i still want to go with a custom manifold and a dual (or single) Weber-styled throttle setup. would love to hear your thoughts.

 

You can get one of these for $2,100. Comes with injector rails and injector rail mounts for 10 injectors.

 

$2100, eh? probably not going to happen, but it looks pretty interesting. where's that from?

 

Hey, it's cheaper than the Hogan manifold at $3,300.

GSR sells the one above.

 

the glass is half-full now.

seriously though, even if i had that sort of manifold budget, i'm not convinced that i'd buy either of them.

 

that intake would be awesome with a slide throttle between the two halfs!!!

 

Tell me about it! Those kinds of prices is the main reason I fab my own sh*t. Fabing things is what these projects are really about.

 

okay, so none of my previous questions were answered. that's cool. i know you all are busy and those of you in the know probably don't want to share. this is a part of the experiment - believe it or not. it's cool ...

 

a minor setback tonight ...

i decided to revise my primary ports. it was born out of the TweakGames threads on porting and side seal interference. i looked at mine and felt that it was in need of revision, but alas ... i inadvertently did the water injection mod.

in my defense, it's a bit out of my element. my Gen II templates are not as proven as my Gen I templates. at any rate, i'll need to get an S4 or newer intermediate housing. it's a lack of experience and i readily admit that. i won't be fixing this one with epoxy, although i will be collecting data to make better templates.. so my semi-pp is stalled for a while. i knew things were going to good to be true.

will update when it's on again ...

thanks for all that posted and contributed.

Jason

 

despite my nonchalant attitude, i am really pissed off about this because i did not want to have a delay - especially one after thinking i was finished and one that would cost me until i get back on my feet financially. i'm so disappointed in myself right now. i will search for a "T" or "REW" intermediate, but for now i've failed miserably.

 

THANK YOU!

Sorry that you had an issue with the porting (and semi crashing your thread), but thank you for making my thread worth all the effort. I have met my goal of saving one engine! I don't know how bad it was, but trust me, it sucks having your engine blow in such a short period of tim because of such a stupid reason. Props for seriously taking the time to do it right the first time. It will pay off in the end.

I just wanted to say keep it up! I am excited to see the results! If it wasn't hard everyone would be doing it.

 

It's a shame about the plate. I did the exact same thing on the first set i ported. The important thing is that you will never do it again! I will make you a smoking deal on the intermediate plate that came out of my old motor if you are interested. It's a proven port that came out of a running motor!

What questions did you need answered. You will have to forgive me for not going back and reading but i just came off a 36 hour shift and i am beat.


Later
Allen

 

no worries, man. i got an education from your threads.

yes, i'd rather do it right the first time so other than the disappointment in myself, i'm really not that mad about it. i iwish you luck in your future endeavors and i hope i can be of help if needed.

 

Man, depending on how long you have it for, I think I'll take you up on that. We can take it to PMs, but until I get another assignment, I can't make any moves other than bills right now. 36 hours? holy cow, you're even harder core than me ... i thought my so-called 12-hours shifts were hell!!! what do you do?

 

I build helicopters. The 36 hour shift is not the norm, we just had a aircraft that had to be ready to deliver today. After 20 hours my boss told me i had to go home so i went home and brushed my teeth and then came in the side door and went back to work

I am in no hurry to sell the plate. It will be here for you when you are ready.

 

helicopters? wow! i love helicopters. i have loved them since i was a kid ... i think it started with M*A*S*H, but i digress. anyway, that sounds like a pretty cool job. i'm a nurse and i think it sucks.

okay, man, i'll let you know when i'm ready for the housing.

as for the questions before, i haven't gone back and re-read this thing either. the only that comes to mind was just getting opinions on what type of intake to run. that RxParts setup really has me thinking of going in a different direction than i originally planned.

i guess i just want to get some pros and cons going so i can decide ...

 

i shouldn't have written this. however, i was half-drunk and pissed off about the housing debacle. this is a tad bit out of character for me. i guess i was a bit bitchy!

 

It's cool man, we can all be level headed all the time I made up my mind i am going to get the RxParts intake. They should have some at summer slam this weekend so i can put my hands on one and report back.

 

any reason why this wouldnt work? i have thought of this, but wasnt sure of it working...

how did you make it seem as though the sleeves are one with the housings? even if they are a perfect press to fit, you should still see the line around the tubing that seperates the aluminum sleeve and aluminum housing... or does sanding them down smooth make them appear to be one?

 

unlike mine, his were done the way they should be done ... by someone that knows what they're doing. however, if you look closely, you can still see the sleeve though.

look more at the one on the left. you can also tell in the shot from inside the housing.

 

as for the question of whether or not the epoxy would work or not, i, personally, think it will come down to (1) choosing the right one and (2) doing an awesome at prepping housing surfaces.

 

your right. you can see the line around the tubing. its just they are both cleaned up real nice with a tight fit.

i cant think of anything wrong with just filling the entire area with aluminum devcon and then boring through. with as many people building engines and doing it at home. im sure its been done... i just never see it before.

sucks thats there is no real way to test it besides doing it and putting a motor together then running it. that could be a lot of work and money wasted...

 

you're probably right. it's probably been done.

however, it took me a long time of being scared to realize that "testing" really doesn't cost that much. the problem seems to come from mindstate. the more of a perfectionist you are, the more you're going to spend to test.

if i were someone else, i'd probably have had this motor together and running already. however, i get in my own way sometimes. all i'll say is one of the lessons i've learned from this project is if you have ideas ... try them.

 

Any updates? Sorry i didn't get in touch with you at the PAN-AMs, my phone died. I still have the plate if you want it.

 

there is a good pair on ebay semiperipheral they look good