My 97 Supra vs Cousin’s 93 RX7
Hey guys, just thought I would share my first race with the new car. Last Thursday I purchased my 1997 limited edition Supra twin turbo. The car is completely stock but I am enjoying every minute of it. It took many years and some hard work to get my dream car but I now own it.
Tonight I ran my cousin’s 1993 RX7. We thought it would be fun to see the outcome of these 2 beautiful JDM super cars. His only mods are an HKS exhaust and HKS down pipe. We ran twice off a 1st gear roll. We both go and I shift in to 2nd and he is already pulling, then I shift in to 3rd and his rear bumper is at my front bumper. We go all the way up to my 4th gear and he has about 2 cars on me. We run again with the same outcome. Just wanted to get your guys feedback on the outcome, is this accurate? We both are good drivers and know how to run the cars. Thanks. |
Dam!! That's music to my ears. Of course, it's accurate. The -7- can't loose!
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Originally Posted by WarspeedFD
Dam!! That's music to my ears. Of course, it's accurate. The -7- can't loose!
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thats about right, still nice car you have thought. A few mods and you should be very quick
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Get a boost controller and turn the boost up to 17psi. Now that would be a closer race.
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:withstupi 3 liters of piston on 17psi VS 2.6 liters of rotary on 10psi = fair? no no no and no
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yeah but look at the weight diff
and supras are monsters both cars are great |
nice kill man
now do some bpu mods and kill that FD..lol :D or how about covert to a large single and make sure he never catches up!! hahaha jk |
haha, thanks guys, I knew I was going to lose but my cousin thought I would win, lol he's always wrong ;)
I wish there was a supra forum like this one, but for some reason supraforum is down. I would love to get more knowledge on the car and aftermarket for it. I think my first mod is going to be an HKS titanium exhaust with down pipe. Can’t wait! Thanks. |
Originally Posted by Snotcycle
:withstupi 3 liters of piston on 17psi VS 2.6 liters of rotary on 10psi = fair? no no no and no
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You know whats funny is, not only was I the one who taught him how to drive his RX7, but I was also the one who searched and searched to find the perfect RX7 for him. It took a while but he also owns his dream car. Thanks to me ;)
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because of the way rotaries work, they get twice the power strokes per revolution. so if comparing to a piston engine, you double the displacement.
Originally Posted by FD Rey
Huh? It's 1.3 liters on a 13B. Nice race though.
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Originally Posted by Snotcycle
because of the way rotaries work, they get twice the power strokes per revolution. so if comparing to a piston engine, you double the displacement.
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7THSIGN that about right considering your car weights about 400lb more then the 7.
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Originally Posted by Force13B
7THSIGN that about right considering your car weights about 400lb more then the 7.
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Something about RX-7's and there awesome acceleration from a roll!!NICE KILL (for the RX-7).
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Originally Posted by Force13B
7THSIGN that about right considering your car weights about 400lb more then the 7.
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I have never driven "driver" side of a Supra. Tell me, Why do you love the car so much? I mean is it the interior? Does it cruise or rev smoothly? Torque maybe? Just curious what get's people so off on driving one car rather then another. More specifically these two cars.
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This is the action that I'm looking for! Good Death!!!!!
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Originally Posted by von
I have never driven "driver" side of a Supra. Tell me, Why do you love the car so much? I mean is it the interior? Does it cruise or rev smoothly? Torque maybe? Just curious what get's people so off on driving one car rather then another. More specifically these two cars.
i have driven both..really you have to drive it to know..im not saying every single person who drives a twin turbo supra stock or even modded will love the car to death but it def is a good feeling.. i havent driven a stock supra, i have driven a 500+rwhp supra since basically i have like 7 friends with supras lol...they tell me to just get one so i can join the club haha..anyway its def a good feeling to hear that engine when you go wot, THATS prob the most addicting part is the sound and the pull (in my case, a big single) of the engine.. its really hard to explain, supra guys know what i mean :) its just a great car http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....A3F8&kw=10&p=8 http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....15A&kw=10&p=10 just some examples :D |
Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
I think my first mod is going to be an HKS titanium exhaust with down pipe. Can’t wait! Thanks.
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
its really hard to explain, supra guys know what i mean :)
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Its a drivers race, nice kill.
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some more
how do you NOT love this sound??? :D http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....F1F&kw=10&p=14 http://videos.streetfire.net/Player....1ED&kw=10&p=14 put the volume up.. seriously, these cars are no joke..i know they are not the gods of imports but jesus christ, every supra being modded are to the fuckin max and they are here to stay on top.. LOL i sound like a ricer, i dont care, i love those fucking cars |
Originally Posted by von
I have never driven "driver" side of a Supra. Tell me, Why do you love the car so much? I mean is it the interior? Does it cruise or rev smoothly? Torque maybe? Just curious what get's people so off on driving one car rather then another. More specifically these two cars.
But the car is just great all around, handling, power and looks. I love it and am very happy to own one. |
start modding the heck out of it and post up some pics
it's soooo easy to hit 400 rwhp in a Supra, and at that point you could pull your friends near stock FD from a high speed roll, easily personally, I will always believe the FD is pure sex and the Supra looks kind of bulbous, but thats just me....heaven knows we FD owners put up with alot of crap to enjoy our sexy rotary time bombs :) how about if I race you in my new '05 Corolla XRS with the Yamaha designed 2ZZ engine? haha...ultimate daily driver imo....reasonably quick and great mileage |
Personally I just see the 7 being slightly better in every aspect of driving/racing with the exception of power potential in only the highest modded supra's.
I would think even the NSX is more pleasurable. Supra's are not exotic. It's not like driving a Lamborghini or something. Geeks lol |
Originally Posted by von
Personally I just see the 7 being slightly better in every aspect of driving/racing with the exception of power potential in only the highest modded supra's.
Originally Posted by Motor City RX-7
how about if I race you in my new '05 Corolla XRS with the Yamaha designed 2ZZ engine? haha...ultimate daily driver imo....reasonably quick and great mileage
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If there was no rx7 i'd be driving a supra,
but thankfully there is a rx7 :) |
Congrats on the purchase of the supra. You have a very nice car there. Good luck with it. :bigthumb:
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Originally Posted by ulost2my7
how do you NOT love this sound??? :D
I remember racing a guy that had a 10 second supra in my 300zx and i will never forget the sound of his engine. OMG wow thats all you can say about modded 2jz's. It sounded so amazing...like no other engine ive ever heard. To tell you the truth it kinda scared me. |
Originally Posted by steve0178
I remember racing a guy that had a 10 second supra in my 300zx and i will never forget the sound of his engine. OMG wow thats all you can say about modded 2jz's. It sounded so amazing...like no other engine ive ever heard. To tell you the truth it kinda scared me.
seriously, they give me the chills..whenever i hear that engine, i know its moving cause the sound itself just says, "move the fuck out of the way!!" LOL |
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
seriously, they give me the chills..whenever i hear that engine, i know its moving cause the sound itself just says, "move the fuck out of the way!!" LOL
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Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
haha, i wish i could hear that. but even stock i can hear that mean sound wanting to come out, but all in due time.
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supra's sound like a orgasm, that screaming I-6 is just magic. one time i was cruisin at about 80 and all of a sudden i hear this buzzing, hrm what could that be? before i can turn my head, a supra with a monsterous pipe goes screaming the fuck by tailed by a c5 if i was going 80 they must've been doing at least 110
Originally Posted by steve0178
I remember racing a guy that had a 10 second supra in my 300zx and i will never forget the sound of his engine. OMG wow thats all you can say about modded 2jz's. It sounded so amazing...like no other engine ive ever heard. To tell you the truth it kinda scared me.
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my buddy has a supra with these mods: intake, dp, full exhaust, intercooler and boost controller and put down 410hp, i think at 17 or 18 psi. he kept up with a GSX600R all the way up to 165mph..
those 2jz's can sure take alot of boost even on a stock block... |
Originally Posted by 7knight
my buddy has a supra with these mods: intake, dp, full exhaust, intercooler and boost controller and put down 410hp, i think at 17 or 18 psi. he kept up with a GSX600R all the way up to 165mph..
those 2jz's can sure take alot of boost even on a stock block... yup, there are people who are doing 900hp on a stock bottom end (dont know how reliable or safe that is) but they work lol one of my supra friends did an n/a to single conversion..its a monster and it only makes about 500rwhp..i mean the sound man, the damn sound of the engine when doing pulls on the highway is just omg...lol like a 2JZ sound will never be boring..i know sometimes i love the way my car sounds and sometimes i just want either quiet or a fun sound..when im on the highway and i punch it, i get the same boring buzzing sound..a 2JZ will never get boring, it will always sound good for whatever mood you're in..:D we should just turn this thread into, "supras are great" thread..LOL |
Well I was shocked after the race, even though I knew I was going to lose. But I didnt think by that much.
So now lets compare a stock RX7 to a stock Supra. What would the outcome be in that? If I were to have an exhaust and downpipe added to my stock Supra, I just dont see how I could gain those 2 cars he had me by with just those mods. Maybe its because I am used to modifying inline 4's??? lol But I have been reading that adding a downpipe, which eliminates both cats on a Supra, nets about 30-40hp gains. So add an exhaust and those are some incredible gains!! Hard to believe though. |
Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
Well I was shocked after the race, even though I knew I was going to lose. But I didnt think by that much.
So now lets compare a stock RX7 to a stock Supra. What would the outcome be in that? If I were to have an exhaust and downpipe added to my stock Supra, I just dont see how I could gain those 2 cars he had me by with just those mods. Maybe its because I am used to modifying inline 4's??? lol But I have been reading that adding a downpipe, which eliminates both cats on a Supra, nets about 30-40hp gains. So add an exhaust and those are some incredible gains!! Hard to believe though. im pretty sure you can take the FD if you do intake/dp/exhaust on your supra..especially off a roll, supras have amazing top end..you'll take him.. |
Originally Posted by ulost2my7
im pretty sure you can take the FD if you do intake/dp/exhaust on your supra..especially off a roll, supras have amazing top end..you'll take him..
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Buy a used downpipe, cat back, MBC, and a Greddy BCC (~$600). Pop in a set of NGK 6097s and add half tank of 100 oct, reset ECU and set boost to 18 psi. Race again, you'll be amazed.
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Originally Posted by Marshall
Buy a used downpipe, cat back, MBC, and a Greddy BCC (~$600). Pop in a set of NGK 6097s and add half tank of 100 oct, reset ECU and set boost to 18 psi. Race again, you'll be amazed.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...icture_059.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...7/DSC00009.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...187/motor4.jpg |
She's a beaut!
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Not a fan of the rims, but the car is nice :bigthumb:
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Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
wow, I bet! I believe the stock boost is set at 11psi. here's a pic of her, stock but I think she's sexy.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...icture_059.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...7/DSC00009.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...187/motor4.jpg damn thats fuckin clean as hell..i hope when my brother gets his, he can find one just like yours..:) |
don't quote me on this but i think supra's come with all forged internals stock
EDIT: BTW whats so special about the SE? |
Originally Posted by POS7
Not a fan of the rims, but the car is nice :bigthumb:
Originally Posted by Snotcycle
don't quote me on this but i think supra's come with all forged internals stock
EDIT: BTW whats so special about the SE? |
All 97's are limited editions. They just got special badging. It was probably just a ploy to sell more as they lowered the price by $10,000 that year also.
The 2JZ crank and rods are forged, but the pistons are cast. You should register at supraforums if you haven't yet, there is a wealth of information there. That is, if registration is open... |
Originally Posted by brewster
All 97's are limited editions. They just got special badging. It was probably just a ploy to sell more as they lowered the price by $10,000 that year also.
The 2JZ crank and rods are forged, but the pistons are cast. You should register at supraforums if you haven't yet, there is a wealth of information there. That is, if registration is open... |
I like the Supra too, with the blue color from 97 being my favorite since having seen a friend's here in Atlanta, but I'll just let ulost2my7 be the more vocal of the "foaming at the mouth for a Supra" crowd :) Although I do wonder why you haven't sold your 7 to get the Supra yet with all the pro supra love you've been giving it.
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Originally Posted by 7THSIGN
That was the first place I tried to register at but it said registration was closed. Why would it be closed? Maybe the site is down?
PM me your email addy and I'll PM it to an admin on SF and maybe they'll let you in. |
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