nad1967

I have my sub firing at the hatch glass at an angle with my amp on the box (facing toward the front of the car as it has a full set of eq's and a digital eq, cool to watch)
I would like to see some pictures of some FC sub boxes, I don't want to take out the compartments behind the seats though, and would like to receive the best possible sound from the sub(s). Trying to decide if I should go for 1 10" or 2 10" (I have one 12" in now). Would having the sub enclosure firing at the driver and passenger seats sound as good as bouncing it off of the hatch?

Mainly I just want more room in the back of the car.

mortsayyed

I have 2 10" Eclispe DVCs sitting where the storage bins used to be firing straight up and it sounds AMAZING. Just two tens being pushed by ONE amp and it sounds a lot crisper and louder than my friends 4 12s"

West TX RX-7

I use my storage bins as the box.

nad1967

I don't want to get rid of my storage bins

nad1967

and, nobody cares

Import Convert

Go 2 10's. Unless you have one BADASS 10, 1 wont cut the mustard.

Node

iTrader: (1)

What about in the spare tire spot. Thats a pretty good spot, just fire em at ya from far away

West TX RX-7

Ummm so you want to see pics of sub boxes but then you say you don't care to see them. Which is it? I was trying to give you some ideas based on what I did and all you can do is say nobody cares? For your sake I hope some people do care enough to post pics and help you out.

nad1967

No No No, nobody responded to my request for awhile and I wanted to get it bumped up. It wasn't a slam by any means, thanks and keep em coming guys. subs firing at the driver and passenger? what about straight firing at the glass?

MIKE-P-29

Here's my 10 in box for my vert..

West TX RX-7

Firing at the glass will give a 3db gain i think. Or firing into the floor would be ok. Remember bass waves get louder as they get farther away. I don't think you'd want em right behind ya firing at you. Even in my pickup I have 2 10's firing straight down at the floor under the seat cause it sounded better than a box behind the seat firing into it.

Node had a cool idea about making the spare tire housing the box. If you do that i'd recommend coating the metal in the hole with fiberglass. You could make it flush so you can still use thge back end to carry stuff.

nad1967

sounds like putting a big box in the back would make it a pain to get to the spare in an emergency

RLBRX7

I have been trying to decide what to do for subs as well. If you don't want to lose the bins then the spare tire well is the place. You might even be able to keep the spare. If not there, in the rear cabin is next choice. But they are visible to theft and take up room. You could do a built-in across the rear if you have either wood or fibreglass skills.

I believe the best choice if you want stealth, but not necessarily the best sound, is the storage bin area. I have researched the sound attitudes in that location given by many and find that some say it is ok, some say not. Anyway, if you want to go the bin route here is a very

http://home.rmci.net/panther/stereo.htma

helpful page with photos. I have begun to install in this area using this as a guide. Very helpful to see some pics of what is there before you begin.

RLBRX7

sorry this might work better

http://home.rmci.net/panther/stereo.htm

nad1967

Yeah, I'm thinking it's gonna be back around the shock towers, I have an amp with an eq so I'm going to need that facing out, theft isn't a problem, that's what a blanket is for, to cover it up. Looks lame as ever but who cares, I'm not driving it with a blanket over everything. I would hate to have a big box too, I want this thing small and out of the way.

Liquid Anarchy

iTrader: (2)

I'm not 100% sure, but isn't having a subwoofer between you and the midbass.... pointless? Why have rear-fill (shocktower speakers) when the subs are in the storage bins? Just thinking of the soundstage alone gives me a headache.

Evil is Good

nad1967

hence the woofers in back

[bnd]

personally, i don't think you need mid's in the back. a good set of components in front (dynaudio's, boston acoustics pro's, focal, etc...) and a sub in the back is all you need. others will disagree, but i like my music to come from infront of me. for example, when was the last time you were at a concert and stood with your back facing the band?

height would also be a factor. a person taller than me, over 5'7", would have to sit further back (unless they've got stubs for legs) thus requiring the need for rear fill.

West TX RX-7

Bass is omnidirectional, It doesn't really matter where the subs are placed (they could even be placed in front of you if you had room) because you can't tell where the sound is comming from in those low frequencies.

I can hear my rear speakers but the front is more prominent.

LoSRx7

Anyone besides me have a 15" sub in their car???

nad1967

why would you ever need a sub more than 12" in your car, 12" subs are already too slow and sloppy as it is, unless you pay good money for a very responsive sub in 12", stay in the 10" area, unless you are bouncin dre and snoop dog, in that case might as well good some good jbl 18", then you might as well not have an FC

Liquid Anarchy

iTrader: (2)

That's such crap, and so very very Have you ever seen an SQ vehicle with the subs between the drivers seat and the rear fill ( that is IF the SQ car has rear fill )? I really doubt it's one of those things that they do because everyone else does it.

Also when it comes to cancelation, it's worse to have the subs in the middle of the car. Check this out. Article by Eddie Runner

*I came from CarAudioForum.com

[bnd]

well, that little experiment is fine for cars where the trunk is separated from the rest of the car. but since the FC is a hatch back, bass reacts a little different.

when i decided to add a sub to my car i spent 3 months planning what i wanted and where exactly i wanted it to go. i had a blown JL 12W5 from my brother that took 3 months to get repaired. since it took three months, it was repaired free of charge. for the box, suggestions on this forum said the way to go was the spare tire well. but to me that didn't seem like the ideal location. since the 12" sub woofer i was planning on using requires 1.6 cubic feet of space and the box was to be made from 3/4" MDF. so making a box for the spare tire well was out of the question. also i didn't want all that weight at the very back of the car.

then i began looking into the storage bin location. on the plus side there's actually a surprising amount of room and it's another stealth location. but the down side was the box would require too many angles. not that it's hard to cut, it's just not a "BOX" any more. personally, i don't like my sub boxes to have more than one angle. bad experience from one of the boxes my brother's friend built. also according to posts from our resident expert Icemark sub firing upwards in the storage bin location wouldn't sound good. i also recall him saying that subs in the storage bin location in a first gen works, but not a second gen. i suppose how the car was made to accommodate the 2+2 has something to do with it.

i really liked the idea of having the box in the storage bins. it would place the weight closer to the center of the car. lol, the total weight of my sub box and me probably equal less weight than some of you. so i came up with the idea of building a box to sit on top of the storage bins. that way i could conceal my amps underneath with plenty of room for them to breathe. another reason i really liked that idea is, i was also planning on constructing some sort of separator so things in the back wouldn't roll up front every time you hit the brakes. so the box now acts as a separator. as the saying goes, two birds with one stone. also it's possible to build your own cover to extend all the way to the back thus concealing the contents of your trunk. so in my opinion it's a + + +

so i guess the main reason for my rambling is, the box i'm currently using, which is a sealed enclosure by the way, only works well in one location. i know this because before i took the final steps in securing the box down to the car, i moved it around in different positions and locations. firing upwards, firing forwards, pushed all the way to the back and firing backwards, at the back firing forwards, etc... all i can say is the box sounds the best mounted on the storage bin shell and firing towards the rear.

Salguod

I have two 15" in a sealed box firing up. I love the sound, but it weighs a TON. Every time I go out I have to decide if I want fast car or loud stereo, because that ~75lbs really makes a difference. So I have mine set up with quick disconnect plugs for the amp and all, so when I need the speed (or the space) it comes right out.

nad1967

trying to think of a good place to fit a large sony amp about 2ft long in my car, it's got eq's on it so i need it to be facing out some way, hmm ideas?