SpeedKing

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I've read most of the posts and threads you've started on this forum, and frankly, you've asked questions totally devoid of common sense and lack any serious thought behind them.

Here's some "gems" of yours:

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/turbo-kits-325435/
https://www.rx7club.com/single-turbo-rx-7s-23/500hp-turbo-338688/
https://www.rx7club.com/engine-management-forum-37/purchase-order-338043/

You can clue yourself in to the answers to what you ask if you bothered to use the search function.

Personally, I don't believe you own a "'94 RX7" and you're nothing more than a dreamer.

For the second time, "Do you even know how big a 12" sub is depth-wise?" You're going to need an enclosure that's at least 9"-9.5" tall.

And, "fabric for dampening purposes"? No such thing.

Why would you have tweeters as part of your rear stage? You know you only get high frequencies through your tweeters, right?

How many woofers are you going to have in the front? Four? Why?

Yeah, sure you are.

HELLO!

Isn't the point of putting together a stereo system in your car is for it to sound good? You're not supposed to see it.

Why would you want sound to go to your *** and underneath your feet? Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't your ears are on the sides of your head?

With two 12" subs, you will "BOOM" ALL the time. BTW, what about farad caps, and a secondary battery, or an upgraded alternator? You'll need those too for those four amps of yours, four woofers in the front, and four tweeters, two in the back, and two in the front.

satoacs: You're a funny guy. I can't wait to read your next post!

spot_skater

the woofers or midrange or whatever aimed at the driver's legs doesn't really serve a purpose

have you ever seen the OEM front speaker mounts in an FC (specifically s4)
they're basically pointing down at the passenger/driver's knees, it's pretty shitty

i'm going to have to a gree with speedking about the mounting depth of a 12" sub, those things are BIG, probably around 6-8," if not more, you might want to re-think using 12's, remember the car is very small...

if i were you i'd make a custom fiberglass mold to hold the subs in the trunk, it can form more freely than wood, and fiberglass is just cooler =x

and you WILL need two crossovers if you're going to power the front speakers in the doors with an amp, go for a FOCAL's utopia line, they're really good...but expensive...will crossover's fit in the doors? FOCAL's crossover's are rather large, as compared to say, DLS

don't take this as an attack, either, just my opinion/advice or whatever

also, you have storage bins, why not take them out and make a new enclosure that may be a little larger to hold the amps? then you can do what another member (SORRY I FORGOT WHO DID IT!!) here did, he used computer fans to cool his amps which he keeps in his storage bins, and it looked real cool...do a search

best of luck, i'm curious to see what you end up doing...

james

John64

Try this on for size.
http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...49_25_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.com/member...9_157_full.jpg
So in total Ihave 1 12's and a 15".
Check out my page for more info. All out of sight, you don't have to show it off. Let them hear you.

John

P.S. I agree with speedking, on all points.

satoacs

you guys are just picking at everything i say. the point of a show car is to go to shows and show-off all of your stuff....thats what im doing....

and the thing about the speakers on the sides of the drivers leg...thats not what i meant, the sound isnt gonna go straight at their legs, its going to go around it and back up.

thats true for any car, except if your making a show car!!

of course i have all of that taken into consideration. this was a post about the sound system's positioning only, not about the extra things that i will need to make it work.

this was just a simple post, i only wanted to know if it would work or not.

Molotovman

iTrader: (49)

Looks like you need to do some more reasearch, or have your system professionally done, you really don't seem to know what you're talking about.

satoacs

im not arguing with that, i am going to have it professionally done, but they are gonna ask me where i want everything put in. thats why i started this whole thing.
i have also been told that they will have to rip out the whole rear and put a new "bed" in, made of wood and fabric, becuase of the issues with space.

blue 88

man, go look at any real show car. it doesn't matter what they look like their stereo's all work and the speakers are all connected and play very strongly. do some searching around and look at other peoples systems and try to get some ideas from them. i am not a dick, and i don't care what you want to call me. i am putting this in as nice a term as possible, think before you speak.

satoacs

what am i supposed to be thinking about, this whole thread is about thinking about what kind of system i wanted to put in and if my diagram would work.

knotsonice

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Sorry man that that many speakers in an FD ur crazy. Your limited on space for 1. I got a set of pioneer 5 1/4 w tweets and 5X7's, in the hatch 2 10" subs. I spent a lot more money in 95 in my 88 rx and this system sounds a hell of a lot better. You don't need to go all out dude really.....

Carl

satoacs

i know its gonna be tight, but i think i can make it fit, otherwise im gonna have to re-think this and either hide the amps or get smaller subs

SpeedKing

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Why don't you quit being an idiot and listen to the collective wisdom of all of those who've posted on this thread.

Your "system" is utterly ridiculous and is *not* going to fit. You haven't even answered any of my questions:

*How are you going to fit two 12" subs in the trunk?
*Why would you have tweeters as part of your rear stage?
*How many woofers are you going to have in the front? Four? And why?

I've been into car audio for YEARS, and no one in their right mind puts together a system like this. You obviously 1) have no clue, and 2) don't even understand how to stage or setup a basic system.

And why don't you post pics of your "'94 RX-7"? I know you don't have one. Bet you're just some 15 year old candy-*** who takes the bus to school.

John64

Speedking, you might be a little harsh. I fit just as much **** in my FB and its all hidden. I think hes being a little over zelous (sp) with his whole setup. Its going to cost him over $4,000 to have the equipment bought and installed. I think hes just talking out of his ***. he has big dreams.
Take a look at mine. More on my page!


Here is a list of everything in my FB. So you can fit allot in a small space.
Alpine CDA 7831 Head Unit
Alpine SPS 130A 51/4 Speakers (front)
Alpine SPS 170A 61/2 Speakers (rear)
JBL GTS 600 pushing 300x2
JBL GTS 360 pushing 65x4
(2) Alpine ZR 12"subs
Rockford Fosgate 1 Farad Cap
Street Wires 4 Gauge Power
Monster Cable RCA's
Custom Sub Volume Control
Custom Fiberglass Sub Enclosures (.65cuft each)
Alpine Type R 15" in custom enclosure 1.8cuft
JBL GTS 600 pushing 300wts to each voice coil

SpeedKing

iTrader: (4)

John64: LOL, I'm being harsh and you say, "he's just talking out of his ***. he has big dreams."? Sounds like you're paraphrasing me!

Nice setup, BTW, although over the top and too loud for my tastes.

John64

Could be! But yoour beating him up pretty bad. Give him a few rounds to recoup.
satoacs did you even get pricing on any of this? You may have pipe dreams when it comes to your system, especially after that turbo you want to put in.

Hehe

Ok, now I was attacking him.

John

dblboinger

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You guys should really lighten up. Where would we be if everyone kept telling us we couldn't do things? Check the last paragraph of my 08-15-04 post....you probably would have been the ones telling me I couldn't do that too, but guess what ....I DID! It wasn't very practical, but in the early days of car stereo practicality wasn't even in the dictionary. Hell, I knew a guy with an early Nissan Hardbody that had 36 subs of various sizes (8" to 15") mounted in the bed of his truck and used the entire bed as a speaker cabinet. His system had over 5,000 watts....3 batteries and an entire electrical system dedicated to the stereo alone with a second alternator driven by a pulley mounted on the drive-shaft. In this thing, you could stop at a stop-light and if the road wasn't level the damn truck would vibrate so bad the vehicle would vibrate right off the road. How's that for practical???

You want to say there's not enough room....a Kicker 12" Solobaric only requires .75 cubic feet of air-space. That's easily obtained by removing the rear storage compartments and building a custom cabinet. Hell I could fit 4 of them in the same amount of room those worthless storage bins occupy and when I was done you wouldn't even be able to tell they were there. The guy is just trying to learn something for Christ's sake...just like the rest of us. If you know so much about the subject why don't you help him out instead of berating him? If he is full of ****, then perhaps the rest of us will benefit from your infinite wisdom on the subject of car audio. (I seriously doubt that).

Speedking(?)....let's look at some of your replies.....

1) 08-15-04 at 8:11 pm you ask, quote "what's the point of having coaxials behind the driver's and passenger's heads?"

then at 9:47 you say, quote "Instead of either woofers or tweeters, why not coaxials that have BOTH a woofer and a tweeter???"

Did you have some major revelation in that 1 hour and 36 minute time frame that made it suddenly okay to use coaxials? Coaxials for rear fill is definitely a viable option. I would not put them right behind the driver/passengers heads though...a little farther away and pointing forward would be good.


2) 08/16/04 at 4:26am you say, quote "For the second time, "Do you even know how big a 12" sub is depth-wise?" You're going to need an enclosure that's at least 9"-9.5" tall."

While you are partially correct, in that most 12" woofer reuire 6.5 - 7" of mounting depth if bottom-mounted. But more important is the internal volume of the cabinet. While there is a "Golden ratio" between height, width and depth of a speaker cabinet...varying from this ratio will not deteriorate the performance nearly as much as incorrect cabinet volume. Basically speaking, as long as the sub will phsically fit in the cabinet, without actually touching any baffle, the performance difference will be un-noticeable in all but the very high end systems.

3) In that same reply you question use of material as a dampening aid saying "it's not possible" ...au contrare monsieur....I have on a number of occassions used pillow stuffing to adjust dampening of a subwoofer in a cabinet that is excessively small. It does this by decreasing the velocity of the sound wave...but that is getting pretty deep. Next time you have a chance open up a set of Bose speakers...you will likely find some form of dampening material inside.

By the way...how long did it take you to dig up all those posts by satoacs?

4) Again on that same post you ask "Why would you have tweeters as part of your rear stage?"

You don't ever want a rear STAGE (that means the main portion of your sound is coming from the rear...kind of like going to a concert and sitting facing AWAY from the stage). You should always have tweeters as part of your rear FILL. Rear FILL should be full-range or at the very least full-range minus that range covered by your subs.

5) Same post..."Isn't the point of putting together a stereo system in your car is for it to sound good? You're not supposed to see it. "

Tell that to all the guys/gals in the car audio competitions who spend thousands of $$$$ making their systems look as good as they sound.



My point??? You obviously don't know all there is to know either. If you don't have anything constructive to say then don't say anything....just my opinion.