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Old 06-24-04, 04:47 PM
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I grew up in germany, and even though the Autobahn is a gret place to open up a car like the 7, there are limits to the madness, usually speed is restricted in rural areas even on the autobahn, and only on long open stretches, with few if any on/off ramps are there unrestricted speeds. This has shown a great reduction in driver fatigue, since you adrenaline starts pumping, and you spend less time on the road, and tell me you could even partially fall asleep going 140+ ... not a chance...

On the Flip side. Accidents that happen due to poor visibility at those speeds with Semi's involved, end up in pileups's of 20-50 cars, and frequently fatalities. Typically fog, poor visibility, and frequent lane changes are at fault.

One thing that is good, it's Illegal for you to pass on the right, and you will get a ticket for this, you will also get a lot of honking, and grief if you drive 55 in the left lane...

I just don't understand why Mom with her 3 Kids can't move over a lane, to let someone who's obviously going faster pass... some people think they're off duty police officers, "well they shouldn't be going that fast anyhow".
Well you shouldn't be driving with two kids screaming in the back either, does that stop you !?

The Arrognace on American freeways has always amazed me.

Don;t get me wrong, I am an American, love this country, it's just that America is always teaching others on how to live their lives, and they never think that other cultures could have a solution to the issues we struggle with here !?

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Old 06-24-04, 07:00 PM
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Thanks for the info-mercial (It was bad enough getting them on TV).

You will find that most people already have this information.

But if you want to shill, that's OK with me, but I don't understand why you would call a police office - doing his/her job a pig?
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Alright back to the topic. Radar detectors are illegal in my state, can I still get away with one? Do cops detect if you have one? If so how do they know who has it say if I am on a busy highway? I would like to get one, not because I like to go 80 in a 40 (dumbass) but because I just don't need a ticket.

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Old 06-25-04, 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by Shinobi-X
5 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed if hit by a car travelling at 30mph
• 9 out of 10 pedestrians will be killed if hit by a car travelling at 40mph
Ok........
How many of those deaths were caused by someone driving on the sidewalk?

How many of those deaths were caused by a stupid pedestrian not looking when crossing the street? Obviously, you can't ask a deadman "Hey, did you look both ways before crossing the street?"

Do you know what I do when I walk? I give driver's THEIR right away. Hey, you got 2-3 ton vehicle, I'll let YOU go first. Do you think I'm stupid enough to cross a street while there are still cars moving closly? The problem with pedestrians is some think they are god and will walk in front of a vehicle like nothing. Add the fact that people think their right of way means when you walk you own the place and if someone hits you you get to instantly sue.

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.....I fully understand what you are saying, but you have to incorporate more people than your age group, with other disabilities, or challenges......
Ahh but look at what you are saying. Once you reach a certain age group, should you even HAVE a driver's license?

Why screw it up for most of us when all that needs to be done is conduct yearly tests on the elderly to ensure they have the ability to motor safely? Same thing for the dissabled.

You see where I'm coming from? The system punshes the mass by creating a n almost dummy free system for the minority. What should be done is ensure the minority is even CAPABLE of driving, and not making others suffer by creating a system made up of 1000 buffer zones for the uncapable.


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I can't argue much here, but again, if a kid gets hit at 30mph and is serioulsy injured, who is liable? and what should be done? There are just so many factors.
If you aren't old enough to make a decision when crossing a street, then you shouldn't be old enough to be walking by yourself.

Who would be liable? The stupid kid without the commonsense to propely cross a street

The law is built to protect the stupid people and denies the smart people from their fun.
Old 06-25-04, 06:23 AM
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The biggest reason for 15 mph speed limits around schools is that kids will do unexpected things like........
If your kid is still young enough to do unexpected things like juming out in the middle of the road, would you SERIOUSLY let your kid walk by him/herself to school?
Old 06-25-04, 06:29 AM
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Originally posted by DCrosby
.....The Arrognace on American freeways has always amazed me......
I was only in Germany for 2 weeks, and america has been driving me nutz ever since.

I can't even imagine what you are going through considering you actually LIVED there and then moved to this rock.
Old 06-25-04, 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Flybye
Ok........
How many of those deaths were caused by someone driving on the sidewalk?

How many of those deaths were caused by a stupid pedestrian not looking when crossing the street? Obviously, you can't ask a deadman "Hey, did you look both ways before crossing the street?"
It's not stating 'why' the injury or deaths occur, its merely stating that if hit at the respective speeds, what is most likely to occur.

Do you know what I do when I walk? I give driver's THEIR right away. Hey, you got 2-3 ton vehicle, I'll let YOU go first. Do you think I'm stupid enough to cross a street while there are still cars moving closly? The problem with pedestrians is some think they are god and will walk in front of a vehicle like nothing. Add the fact that people think their right of way means when you walk you own the place and if someone hits you you get to instantly sue.
I completely agree here. When it comes down to it, its my safety I'm worried about, so people can have all the right of way they need as long as I arrive safe at the end of the day. I too think some people chase after frivolous lawsuits, in order to make a quick buck.


Ahh but look at what you are saying. Once you reach a certain age group, should you even HAVE a driver's license?

Why screw it up for most of us when all that needs to be done is conduct yearly tests on the elderly to ensure they have the ability to motor safely? Same thing for the dissabled.
I was on the same side as you, and have some split opinions on this, but the elderly have a rather large lobby in the united states, and as such get a lot of say in what happens. Simply put, they are here to stay, did their time, and will be driving as long as their health permits...or lack thereof.

You see where I'm coming from? The system punshes the mass by creating a n almost dummy free system for the minority. What should be done is ensure the minority is even CAPABLE of driving, and not making others suffer by creating a system made up of 1000 buffer zones for the uncapable.
Imposing a speed limit is hardly punishment. While there are exceptions, I'm sure there are many more reasons why the speed limits are set at those limits. I have no problem with toughening the initial driving test, and having annual re-test after a certain age where certain skills and physical ability have been proven to decline, but others feel otherwise.

The law is built to protect the stupid people and denies the smart people from their fun.
But most smart people know that doubling the speed limit IS stupid.

ok, I'm done with this one. I honestly wouldn't mind seeing the pics you speak of though.
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Man, too much arguing to read all this stuff, but I did notice discussing pedestrians.

Let me tell you one thing. You have NEVER experienced stupid pedestrians till you've driven around the University of Texas campus. I honestly have started aiming for them.

Sometimes they have to learn that if the crosswalk light doesn't say walk, they DON'T have the right of way.



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Old 06-25-04, 07:20 PM
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Someone please answer my question back up the page!
This one:

Alright back to the topic. Radar detectors are illegal in my state, can I still get away with one? Do cops detect if you have one? If so how do they know who has it say if I am on a busy highway? I would like to get one, not because I like to go 80 in a 40 (dumbass) but because I just don't need a ticket.
Old 06-25-04, 07:30 PM
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To get onto a different issue here - radar detectors won't work very well under the dash. Of course it will still work but not very efficiently since the radar has mostly bounced off of the outside of your car already. Another thing is that most people who mount the Valentine under the dash or in their rearview mirror have sensors to detect radar placed in the front and rear bumpers so the placement of the actual "light unit" and display doesn't really matter.
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And under the dash would eliminate any kind of protection against laser. Not that there's much in the first place. You can get the K40 stealth mount which has the detectors mounted in the front and back of the car, with the actual unit a thin piece that can be installed anywhere.

http://www.k40.com/Products/Radar/Un...ualRemote.html

dexmex, you can get away with it, but its not easy unless you have something like above. Most detectors have VG2 (I think thats what its called) that (Hold on, this is kinda confusing) detect radar detector detectors. I.E. it will tell you when a cop has the VG2 thing, which tells him who has a radar detector. I think if some pick that up, they automatically shut off, or you have to shut them off.

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Old 06-26-04, 11:53 AM
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If some of you actually knew anything about electronics you would know that the VG2 is not relevant to the V1 because the detection tuning circuit operates on a different frequency than all the other detectors out there. Cops cannot detect the use of a V1.

How many of you know that the RX-7 is a difficult car to pick up on radar anyway? The car has a small frontal area and has many favorable angles. If you are in traffic the cop is going to get the speed off another car instead of yours ....
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Wow...No need to be a condescending *******. I apologize for not reading up on the detection tuning circuit of every detector out there, Mr. Smartypants.

Get over yourself.

And you're an idiot if you think the RX7 is a "stealth" car. I can guarantee it can be picked up by radar, and not hard either.

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Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
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So what do you advise me to do. I don't speed ever, maybe 5 over the limit, so I wouldn't use it all the time, just when I want to race or something. Also if I were to get pulled while using it and he thought I had one or something could he search my car for it?
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Originally posted by DCrosby
I grew up in germany, and even though the Autobahn is a gret place to open up a car like the 7, there are limits to the madness, usually speed is restricted in rural areas even on the autobahn, and only on long open stretches, with few if any on/off ramps are there unrestricted speeds. This has shown a great reduction in driver fatigue, since you adrenaline starts pumping, and you spend less time on the road, and tell me you could even partially fall asleep going 140+ ... not a chance...
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Are you saying the K40 has a laser jammer built in? Laser Jammers are illegal.

Originally posted by infinitebass
If the V1 is so HOT, and I know it is, why don't they back it by a money back guarantee, like the K40? If you get a ticket within in a year with the K40, which is also a hundred or two less, they'll pay for the ticket.

The V1 is great and all, but hardly proven as the best. I think I'd rather have the K40 with a laser jammer and guarantee of not receiving any tickets for the same price.

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Recently, we've been hearing of another radar-detector detector, the Spectre RDD. Used first in Canada, enforcers of detector bans in Virginia and Washington, DC, and the nationwide ban in heavy trucks, surely have this tool on their must-have list. It claims to have been designed specifically "to detect the latest state of the art stealth-type radar warning receivers." Does it find V1? Very likely, according to reports we've been hearing from a few V1 users. One participant in an internet chat room, who claimed to be a Canadian enforcer, said "I've snagged a Valentine 1 already." We've been unable to acquire a Spectre RDD for testing. Until we can do so, be advised that no super-heterodyne receiver is perfectly undetectable, and that includes V1.
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Spectre RDD still seems to have it's faults. Surprisingly enough a radar detector called the PNI traveller seems to be invisible to Spectre as well as other radar detector-detectors. I bought one and it works great. This unit is cheap and not the best quality but it does what it's supposed to, very well. It's alerted me numerous times and haven't had it detected yet. It has a better range than what my BEL had.
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Chronos, you are incorrect. Radar jammers are illegal, not laser jammers. FTC controls the spectrum that the radars operate in. Having a passive jammer is legal (But useless) and an active jammer is illegal.

Lasers, on the other hand, are governed by the FDA, who have not put any kind of restrictions on laser jammers.

daem0n, I'm sure it has its faults, but I was simply showing spyfish he didn't know what he was talking about. He said the V1 was undetectable, which, straight from the V1 website, they say it isn't. I'm sure there are some out there that aren't detectable by any known radar detector detector, but the V1 isn't one. Or most likel isn't.

dexmex, the best option would be the K40 hidden detector, in my opinion. You get the same protection, if not better, than the V1, and its a completely hidden install. So even if they are able to detect it (i.e. it doesn't shut off), they won't be able to find it.

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Will you all shut up it's perfectly fine to go 80 in a 40 mph zone when your trying to outrun a tornado.
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Or burning trucks.
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Yeah it might be detectable but not by the VG2 means. I drive by radar speed displays all the time. I can tell you from experience that if there is another car near it picks up their speed not mine. I can also tell you that when it reads my speed it is always (on average) 5 mph slower. All of this experience is also confirmed by the handful of times I've gone by cops in traffic and they never pull me over. A K40 is a piece of junk. Once you have gone cross country with a V1 you realize the difference.
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Have you ever used a K40? By putting a guarantee that you won't get a ticket, and knowing the product users are going to be speeding, you're taking a big risk if it doesn't work well.

And those signs are not the same guns cops use. The ones cops use are significantly more high tech and accurate. Try driving by one by yourself, with no cars around. Does it pick you up? Yes.

And when your driving in traffic you're generally going the same speed as traffic. You can't know if they are actually radaring you specifically or not. And if traffic is going faster than the speed limit, the cop is generally going to be looking for someone going WELL over the speed limit.

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Originally posted by infinitebass

dexmex, the best option would be the K40 hidden detector, in my opinion. You get the same protection, if not better, than the V1, and its a completely hidden install. So even if they are able to detect it (i.e. it doesn't shut off), they won't be able to find it.

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This is monumentally stupid advice. If you are in a state where they are illegal, and they know you have one, they won't lamely give up and say "have a nice day". They will ask you where it is, and you will tell them, or they will stay until they find it. They have the right (although not by federal law) to seize it and destroy it, and they like doing that.

And it is not a completely hidden install. If it was, then it wouldn't be able to detect anything. There are sensors, and they are visible.

A lot of radar jammer companies offer guarantees. Why not sell an expensive item that does nothing, and give you $50/100 back once if you get busted? That guarantee doesn't mean squat.

The use of laser jammers is prohibited and/or restricted in California, Minnesota, Oklahoma and Utah. Maybe a few other states by now.

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Everyone who knows me knows that I don't drive anywhere near the speed limit-with or without traffic. In a bright yellow car, going fast .... I'm usually the target of cops.


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