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07-20-05, 12:27 AM
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New system!!
I'm very excited...after having lived with my crappy Bose system for a couple of years now...I dropped some coin on a new system
diamond components for the front and rear D561s front and D661s rear with a 300/4 JL audio amp powering them. And a Kenwood deck...can't remember the model right now... 869 something?
Anyways.
I have a couple of questions if someone could help me...
1. For the rear component speakers...where do I mount the tweeters? or do I even install them in the rear? I've got the stock 6x8 brackets and am going to try to use the 6.5 grills...with some creative fabbing (i'm proficient in cf and aluminum fabing)...to fill the holes in the rear panels
2. For the front tweeters, I read a post where someone installed them in the center speaker location and pointed them at the windows???
3. I read somewhere that it was a good idea to put some kind of electrical controls (Sorry...totally don't know the audio terminology for this) that limit both the frequency and amount of signal that go to the rear speakers vs. the fronts?
Down the road I'll get a subwoofer installed...but for now...only 5 projects at a time (audio, V8, suspension, brakes, paint)
Thanks
John
diamond components for the front and rear D561s front and D661s rear with a 300/4 JL audio amp powering them. And a Kenwood deck...can't remember the model right now... 869 something?
Anyways.
I have a couple of questions if someone could help me...
1. For the rear component speakers...where do I mount the tweeters? or do I even install them in the rear? I've got the stock 6x8 brackets and am going to try to use the 6.5 grills...with some creative fabbing (i'm proficient in cf and aluminum fabing)...to fill the holes in the rear panels
2. For the front tweeters, I read a post where someone installed them in the center speaker location and pointed them at the windows???
3. I read somewhere that it was a good idea to put some kind of electrical controls (Sorry...totally don't know the audio terminology for this) that limit both the frequency and amount of signal that go to the rear speakers vs. the fronts?
Down the road I'll get a subwoofer installed...but for now...only 5 projects at a time (audio, V8, suspension, brakes, paint)
Thanks
John
07-20-05, 04:54 PM
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1)I dont think you need tweeters in the back.
2)The "electrical control" you are thinking of would be a "Crossover".
3)Having the center speaker pointed at the window the sound bounces off the window and then towards the rear of the car passing by you.
4)Pioneer is the best decks to go with right now i have a DEH-P770MP, it is awesome, i got the sirrius sattelight radio antenna hooked up to it and it is great.
5)For a sub i would recommend Kicker or Audiobahn, and www.cardomain.com has good prices and great deals on audio components.
2)The "electrical control" you are thinking of would be a "Crossover".
3)Having the center speaker pointed at the window the sound bounces off the window and then towards the rear of the car passing by you.
4)Pioneer is the best decks to go with right now i have a DEH-P770MP, it is awesome, i got the sirrius sattelight radio antenna hooked up to it and it is great.
5)For a sub i would recommend Kicker or Audiobahn, and www.cardomain.com has good prices and great deals on audio components.
07-21-05, 07:05 AM
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I have a component set up front and a 10" sub in the rear. That's it. IMO this car is so small you do not need any sort of rear speaker at all, it's not surround sound afterall.
You want the tweeters aimed at the listener. Off axis response is poor and gets worse if you're trying to bounce the sound around everywhere; it doesn't work that way. Ideally you want all the speakers equidistant from the listener but that's impossible in most cars. The next best solution is to get them as far from the listener as possible so that the difference in distance to the listener is minimal. I experimented a LOT with front mounting locations and ended up using the stock location in the door for the woofer and mounting the tweeters in angled surface mount cups aimed at the passengers on the door triangles. Putting the tweeters in the kickpanel or door location sounded bad because the driver's leg and arm is always between him and the tweeter in that location.
My entire system is an Eclipse 56050, a 4 channel Alpine v-12 amp (I forget which model at the moment) with two channels running the front 5.25" Vifa component set and the other two bridged into a single 10" JL sub in the rear. That's it; don't need more.
You want the tweeters aimed at the listener. Off axis response is poor and gets worse if you're trying to bounce the sound around everywhere; it doesn't work that way. Ideally you want all the speakers equidistant from the listener but that's impossible in most cars. The next best solution is to get them as far from the listener as possible so that the difference in distance to the listener is minimal. I experimented a LOT with front mounting locations and ended up using the stock location in the door for the woofer and mounting the tweeters in angled surface mount cups aimed at the passengers on the door triangles. Putting the tweeters in the kickpanel or door location sounded bad because the driver's leg and arm is always between him and the tweeter in that location.
My entire system is an Eclipse 56050, a 4 channel Alpine v-12 amp (I forget which model at the moment) with two channels running the front 5.25" Vifa component set and the other two bridged into a single 10" JL sub in the rear. That's it; don't need more.
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07-21-05, 03:53 PM
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thanks...
dang. I was hoping the 6.5s in the rear would add something...
any body want some nice 6.5 componets
dang. I was hoping the 6.5s in the rear would add something...
any body want some nice 6.5 componets
Originally Posted by DamonB
I have a component set up front and a 10" sub in the rear. That's it. IMO this car is so small you do not need any sort of rear speaker at all, it's not surround sound afterall.
You want the tweeters aimed at the listener. Off axis response is poor and gets worse if you're trying to bounce the sound around everywhere; it doesn't work that way. Ideally you want all the speakers equidistant from the listener but that's impossible in most cars. The next best solution is to get them as far from the listener as possible so that the difference in distance to the listener is minimal. I experimented a LOT with front mounting locations and ended up using the stock location in the door for the woofer and mounting the tweeters in angled surface mount cups aimed at the passengers on the door triangles. Putting the tweeters in the kickpanel or door location sounded bad because the driver's leg and arm is always between him and the tweeter in that location.
My entire system is an Eclipse 56050, a 4 channel Alpine v-12 amp (I forget which model at the moment) with two channels running the front 5.25" Vifa component set and the other two bridged into a single 10" JL sub in the rear. That's it; don't need more.
You want the tweeters aimed at the listener. Off axis response is poor and gets worse if you're trying to bounce the sound around everywhere; it doesn't work that way. Ideally you want all the speakers equidistant from the listener but that's impossible in most cars. The next best solution is to get them as far from the listener as possible so that the difference in distance to the listener is minimal. I experimented a LOT with front mounting locations and ended up using the stock location in the door for the woofer and mounting the tweeters in angled surface mount cups aimed at the passengers on the door triangles. Putting the tweeters in the kickpanel or door location sounded bad because the driver's leg and arm is always between him and the tweeter in that location.
My entire system is an Eclipse 56050, a 4 channel Alpine v-12 amp (I forget which model at the moment) with two channels running the front 5.25" Vifa component set and the other two bridged into a single 10" JL sub in the rear. That's it; don't need more.
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put the 6.5 in the rear. you will hear them much louder than the front 5 1/4"
2 sets of components though, is really overkill. one set of speakers is just for fill. so u could just use the front speakers as others have suggested.
where are you going to put the AMP? and u might think about an 8" subwoofer
i also use a kenwood deck. i had an old kenwood deck i loved, but it recently died so i bought a new one to work wiht the CD changer. but i dont like that little toggle switch on the right. its seems like it will break off too easy. all the new kenwoods come with this.
2 sets of components though, is really overkill. one set of speakers is just for fill. so u could just use the front speakers as others have suggested.
where are you going to put the AMP? and u might think about an 8" subwoofer
i also use a kenwood deck. i had an old kenwood deck i loved, but it recently died so i bought a new one to work wiht the CD changer. but i dont like that little toggle switch on the right. its seems like it will break off too easy. all the new kenwoods come with this.
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