99 spec front bumpers
07-18-02, 02:21 PM
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99 spec front bumpers
Im planning to change my front bumper to a 99spec
My car is Montego Blue and Im concerned cause this color is kinda rare. Does Mazda still have this paint available? Anyone done this job and got a 100% color match? Or do I have to paint the whole car to be safe?
My car is Montego Blue and Im concerned cause this color is kinda rare. Does Mazda still have this paint available? Anyone done this job and got a 100% color match? Or do I have to paint the whole car to be safe?
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paint the whole car to be safe. you cant paint match weather fade. I was deciding on just painint my 99 front end, but figured my car's paint has been shined on a fair amount of time, so next month, the car goes in for a fresh coat of Z-06 red paint.
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Yeah paint the whole thing so you don't have to worry about matching. If you are painting it montego blue again you may be able to get away without painting the jambs..
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here's a quick question about paint...
if you wanted a complete paint job, like everything that one colour, they'd have to pull the motor and like paint the trunk and frame?
like what is the most complete job you can do?
also, what about like painting your car different colours, i.e. outside yellow, engine bay and trunk black?
if you wanted a complete paint job, like everything that one colour, they'd have to pull the motor and like paint the trunk and frame?
like what is the most complete job you can do?
also, what about like painting your car different colours, i.e. outside yellow, engine bay and trunk black?
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Paint jobs range from $800.00 to paint just the outside of the vehicle(no door jambs, etc) to up to 10k(custom/chrome illusion paint) to strip everything off the car and paint every nook and cranny.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
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07-19-02, 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by black99
Paint jobs range from $800.00 to paint just the outside of the vehicle(no door jambs, etc) to up to 10k(custom/chrome illusion paint) to strip everything off the car and paint every nook and cranny.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
Paint jobs range from $800.00 to paint just the outside of the vehicle(no door jambs, etc) to up to 10k(custom/chrome illusion paint) to strip everything off the car and paint every nook and cranny.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
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Originally posted by Munchy2000
if you wanted a complete paint job, like everything that one colour, they'd have to pull the motor and like paint the trunk and frame?
like what is the most complete job you can do?
also, what about like painting your car different colours, i.e. outside yellow, engine bay and trunk black?
if you wanted a complete paint job, like everything that one colour, they'd have to pull the motor and like paint the trunk and frame?
like what is the most complete job you can do?
also, what about like painting your car different colours, i.e. outside yellow, engine bay and trunk black?
Some people are perfectionist's(like Jimlab) and like to paint the car while the motor is out so they can paint the engine bay. This is a great idea it's just not possible for alot people who don't want their car in the shop for long. Jimlab is in the middle of a v8 conversion so his motor is already out. As far as painting the frame goes, the FD doesn't really have a frame only things that are like subframe's. Yes they can be removed and painted but I've only ever seen RE-Amemiya paint that peice on a car. I've never heard anyone else mention anything about painting it.
The most complete job you can do?
Remove the hood, doors, hatch, lights. Remove all the windows/molding, door handles, gas lid. Remove all the interior, the motor, all the wiring. Remove the fenders, vents, side mirrors. It can go on and on, it just depends on how much $$ you have and how much of a perfectionist you are.
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Originally posted by 1FAST7
lets say i have a RX-7 that is brilliant black, and all I wanted to do was paint the outside of the car in a similar black color. There really wont be a need to paint the door jambs or would there? Would you be able to tell the difference from the outside of the car and the door jambs?
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lets say i have a RX-7 that is brilliant black, and all I wanted to do was paint the outside of the car in a similar black color. There really wont be a need to paint the door jambs or would there? Would you be able to tell the difference from the outside of the car and the door jambs?
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I would say not really, especially not looking close at it. I've never had a car painted, without painting the door jambs, trunk jamb, etc so I am not 100% sure but in theory they should be close. I've heard of people doing it and it sounds good, but again I've never done it to one of my own cars.
Your jambs(trunk, door, etc) don't see alot of light, harmful chemicals, like the outside of your car does so they should be in good shape. So if you get the outside painted and say you stop at a quicke mart to get a soda, I don't think anyone would notice that you had only the outside painted. Especially if you have a good painter.
07-19-02, 02:26 PM
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btw, how much would it cost to paint a car totally, including door jambs, trunk jambs, etc... With just one color.
thanks
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btw, how much would it cost to paint a car totally, including door jambs, trunk jambs, etc... With just one color.
thanks
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I've found that different shops vary wildly in price, anywhere from around a $1000 to over $5000. I firmly believe that in many cases, you do get what you are paying for.
But in the case of the shops that are asking over $5000, I think they are playing to people's fears that a lower price buys lower quality. There are people that are willing to pay that much, and being smart business people, the shops will evaluate a potential customer and charge accordingly.
Obviously, a car enthusiast that is restoring his/her car is more willing to shell out the duckets (under the impression of buying higher quality work) then someone trying to fix up a wreck for cheap will.
So, the price you pay will depend entirely on what shop you decide, based on the shops local reputation and your own gut instinct.
Best of luck.
07-20-02, 09:51 AM
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Just my $.02, but my cousin had to get a new hood. He also got a racing beat spoiler a while before. Both were painted separately, and his car looks awesome. He never had the car painted completely, just the wing and the hood at 2 different times. I know its not the best thing to do, but if you don't want to paint the whole car, this is an option.
Johann
I forgot to add, his car was montego blue too
Johann
I forgot to add, his car was montego blue too
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I had some paint work done on my MB car too, and the guy matched the paint PERFECT. So, just saying that it can be done, but you need to know a quality painter first.
07-23-02, 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by black99
Some people are perfectionist's (like Jimlab) and like to paint the car while the motor is out so they can paint the engine bay.
...
The most complete job you can do?
Remove the hood, doors, hatch, lights. Remove all the windows/molding, door handles, gas lid. Remove all the interior, the motor, all the wiring. Remove the fenders, vents, side mirrors. It can go on and on, it just depends on how much $$ you have and how much of a perfectionist you are.
Some people are perfectionist's (like Jimlab) and like to paint the car while the motor is out so they can paint the engine bay.
...
The most complete job you can do?
Remove the hood, doors, hatch, lights. Remove all the windows/molding, door handles, gas lid. Remove all the interior, the motor, all the wiring. Remove the fenders, vents, side mirrors. It can go on and on, it just depends on how much $$ you have and how much of a perfectionist you are.
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see the main reason i didnt go for the Deep Blue Mica (darker than the 99 spec innocent blue mica) is that my engine bay is red. My car stock was Vintage red, and i really dont trust anyone other than a seasoned rotary shop (like pettit) to pull the motor. Had i been able to, i would have had the car painted a deep blue, or a glossy white color.
On a sidenote, a GOOD paintjob runs about 1700 or so, unless you have connections. My best friend from highschool now owns Vito's custom Paint and Pearls. He'll basically paint my car, jamms, trunk lid, under hood for 900 total (and some beers, but thats aside the point). Its all basically who you know, or remember from the good ole' days.
Then again, you have the certain people who do it their selves, and only pay for paint. Like i said, its all in what, or who you know.
On a sidenote, a GOOD paintjob runs about 1700 or so, unless you have connections. My best friend from highschool now owns Vito's custom Paint and Pearls. He'll basically paint my car, jamms, trunk lid, under hood for 900 total (and some beers, but thats aside the point). Its all basically who you know, or remember from the good ole' days.
Then again, you have the certain people who do it their selves, and only pay for paint. Like i said, its all in what, or who you know.
07-27-02, 11:58 PM
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Nope, the one thing I don't do is paint.
I have an old friend from high school who has been painting for about 15 years now and is head painter for a Ford dealership. Another friend is runs their body shop, so I get the use of the booth for free, and except for a few "gratuities", the paint job is only costing me the (shop) price of the materials. I'm also doing a lot of the prep work to help out, and all of the assembly/disassembly.
The door jambs, hatch, underside of the hood and the engine bay were shot in my friend's own shop, since I wouldn't have the luxury of spreading parts all over the place and occupying space at the dealership for this phase while the paint cures, but we'll trailer the car to the dealership and shoot the outside of the car in the booth on the weekend of the 10th-11th of August, it looks like.
I have an old friend from high school who has been painting for about 15 years now and is head painter for a Ford dealership. Another friend is runs their body shop, so I get the use of the booth for free, and except for a few "gratuities", the paint job is only costing me the (shop) price of the materials. I'm also doing a lot of the prep work to help out, and all of the assembly/disassembly.
The door jambs, hatch, underside of the hood and the engine bay were shot in my friend's own shop, since I wouldn't have the luxury of spreading parts all over the place and occupying space at the dealership for this phase while the paint cures, but we'll trailer the car to the dealership and shoot the outside of the car in the booth on the weekend of the 10th-11th of August, it looks like.
07-28-02, 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by jimlab
The door jambs, hatch, underside of the hood and the engine bay were shot in my friend's own shop, since I wouldn't have the luxury of spreading parts all over the place and occupying space at the dealership for this phase while the paint cures, but we'll trailer the car to the dealership and shoot the outside of the car in the booth on the weekend of the 10th-11th of August, it looks like.
The door jambs, hatch, underside of the hood and the engine bay were shot in my friend's own shop, since I wouldn't have the luxury of spreading parts all over the place and occupying space at the dealership for this phase while the paint cures, but we'll trailer the car to the dealership and shoot the outside of the car in the booth on the weekend of the 10th-11th of August, it looks like.
I trust myself with the prep and color coat, but not sure if the shop will have a hard time shooting clear into the jambs with doors mounted. I guess I can have it flat bedded there with the doors/hatch/hood off....
07-28-02, 12:37 PM
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You should clear coat everything after painting it. You want to have the car almost completely assembled for the final coats so that the finish is even and identical over the outside of the car. The door jambs and other body seam areas can be masked carefully to keep from getting a lot of overspray blown into the areas already painted. The only thing that should be off the car is the front bumper, and possibly the rear bumper, if you're dedicated.
The urethane pieces should be painted off the car so that the openings receive the proper amount of paint without the painter having to stoop or get close to the floor. Even with the floor of the booth watered down to control dust, you still want to paint everything as high above the floor as possible for the best finish and least amount of contaminants in the paint as possible.
The urethane pieces should be painted off the car so that the openings receive the proper amount of paint without the painter having to stoop or get close to the floor. Even with the floor of the booth watered down to control dust, you still want to paint everything as high above the floor as possible for the best finish and least amount of contaminants in the paint as possible.
07-29-02, 04:42 AM
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Originally posted by black99
Paint jobs range from $800.00 to paint just the outside of the vehicle(no door jambs, etc) to up to 10k(custom/chrome illusion paint) to strip everything off the car and paint every nook and cranny.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
Paint jobs range from $800.00 to paint just the outside of the vehicle(no door jambs, etc) to up to 10k(custom/chrome illusion paint) to strip everything off the car and paint every nook and cranny.
Most people I believe have painters do the door jambs, trunk jamb and sometimes paint under the hood when the change from the original color. There is nothing saying you have to do this but in my opinion when you have say a yellow car with black door/trunk jambs it clashes.
Some people who want a different color, and don't want to spend the money to disassemble the car, paint the jambs will just pic a color close to the one they have or take their stock color and mix some pearl in so they can get away with not painting everything and not having it clash to bad at the same time. This is a good way to be different and stay on a budget.
You "get what you pay for" in painting. Everyone will agree with that. Alot of people have "friends" that paint cars/do body work so they get better prices then someone outsourcing work to a body shop. The reason is they usually never get charged all the labor charges that a body shop charges on paper.
I'm going to have my g/f's dad paint my car and will only probably have to pay for supplies. Not much $ compared to the cost of labor.
..And your gonna get a job that looks like your girlfriends dad did it for you. Good luck...I guess
