I can't see the post.

 

I can't see the post.

 

damn it

 

hey guys i'm looking for map that someone may alreday have for my set up. if not no biggie..well here is my set up

13b-re(stock ports)
4 850cc or 720cc and 1300cc
running 12-15 psi
60-1 turbonetics .96 ar
3" exhaust
fmic

 

I've got a friend with an RE with a half bp, a 60-1, and 550 and 1600's Let me know if you want to try that?

- Steiner

 

I would like to try that map, if thats Ok?

 

Do not ever load somebody else's map into your ECU.

 

care to explain why? if it is a good map, you will have to do fine tunning cause every engine is different I understand that but why do you say not to?

 

1) The map tuner may not be as good as you think. This map is from a slick businessman who has somehow convinced quite a few people that he is a fantastic mechanic and engine tuner.
http://www.geocities.com/evilaviator/badmap

2) Even if the map tuner is good, you do not know exactly what he did to the map unless you:
a) Read through all the programming, and
b) Understand what you are looking at
If both a and b apply to you, then you have the time and skills to tune yourself, anyway, so there is really no point in using the map for anything but a simple reference.

3) Proper tuning requires that you disable some transient and secondary functions in order to properly set your base map settings. Once the base map is reset, any of the transients and secondary functions that used to work well will need to also be re-set. Therefore, what is the point of bothering with somebody else's map? Sure, you may think that it will make tuning easier for you, but in fact it will make it more difficult.

4) Most engine sensors are analog. This means that even small things like their wiring connections, length of the lead wires, and the quality of the vehicle's electrical system will change the voltage sent to the EMS. Also, the sensor calibrations may be different between various vehicles, especially that of the TPS.

5) Not all engines are the same, and even engines that are the same are not the same.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hreadid=220817

 

You make very good points, but as a base map I still think someone's can help. If he doesn't want the map that is roughly tuned, the guy also has the map that was sent to him by Brian Cain. That map was the original that was made only on computer then sent to my friend so he could tune off of that. I am by no means saying that this map is perfectly tuned for my friend's car, because he hasn't had time to go to the dyno to tune with the new map. But he has tuned it so it runs as good as it can in day to day driving. He has used a wideban with this tuning. I'm in no way trying to rebut your coments but just trying to say that I think if the base map, that was made on the computer, was used it could give him a better starting point then starting with the haltech base map. I'll contact him and see if he'll post the map. Just let me know which one you want.

- Steiner

 

OKay here's the deal, he will post the map tonight. The map will be the one that has not been edited. A couple notes to make though, first he, myself, and Brian Cane, hold no responsibility for what happens, and what you do with the map. If you blow your engine it isn't our fault he is just providing a resource, and something to base it off of. Not trying to say you will do this but it is just to cover everyone's butts, because he's giving you the map. Second this ignition is setup for a crank angle sensor, because this is on an RE so you will have to set it up specifically for your engine whether it's a 13BT, or REW. You can find out how to do that easily on the web, the two I know off the top of my head are factory and hitman's. This map also ran very rich on his car to protect the engine until he could tune it, he is running 550 primaries and 1600 secondaries so if you have 800cc primaries it will run even richer. That being said he will put it up tonight. Good luck with tuning it.

- Steiner

 

The base map ships from the factory. Once it is modified, it is no longer a base map.

LOL, anybody dumb enough to actually try to run their car with that map deserves whatever they get. However, I'm sure that a lot of people would like to look at the map for reference.

... unless you are running a lower fuel rail pressure, in which case it will run lean.... or if your fuel is different it may not... or if your fuel is warmer or colder than the map is tuned for then it will be richer or leaner.... or if your fuel injectors are clogged then it will run leaner... unless his fuel injectors were clogged, then it may run better... unless your fuel injectors are rated at 40psi instead of 43.5psi then it will run even richer... unless your engine has better volumetric efficiency which will lean the mixture... but then again pre-mixing oil will change all of that too... lol

 

I understand the base map. What I was talking about is that the map that he is going to send is taken directly off the base haltech map, he then editted it, so it doesn't have any factors of running rich or lean or for length of wires etc. As far as the concerns, it's just to make sure that nobody gets screwed and sued for using a map that was designed for them. He is basically going to post this as look at the map, and decide what you would change to fit your car, but whatever you do he is not responsible for. As far as the variables as stated above this isn't tuned for a specific car, it has just been modified from the original Haltech.

- Steiner