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Old Jul 7, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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I'm buying the e6x haltech from someone on the forum and I would like some help on which wideband is the best to go with a haltech and easy to use oh and estimated price too if thats possible thanks
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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I'm buying the e6x haltech from someone on the forum and I would like some help on which wideband is the best to go with a haltech and easy to use oh and estimated price too if thats possible thanks
OK so all you guys have haltechs but no one has a wideband so how do you guys tune your cars must be magic
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 08:41 PM
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I'm using the FJO wideband, working really well so far it's extremely affordable for information on the FJO; you can read up on it here:

www.fjoracing.com I paid less than $400cdn shipped.

I see you are a fellow Canadian, FJO is out of Manitoba; so you are supporting Canadians.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:36 PM
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thanks for the info I will read up on FJO finaly someone answered me did I ask the question the wrong way or is it because I'm Canadian
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:40 PM
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I have an AEM... works pretty good
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:26 PM
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Its because your canadian...

I'm partial to the Innovative wideband, which is identicle to the haltech unit. The free air calibration works well, and its the only one capable of free air calibration.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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OK so all you guys have haltechs but no one has a wideband so how do you guys tune your cars must be magic
Magic?
Nah, it's called an EGT gauge...


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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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Innovate LC1 240 bucks shipped over Russia.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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thank you everybody for the different kinds, I will do alot of reading what i'm interested in is a wideband that I can leave on my system all the time and be simple enough to use
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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Ive used the Innovated, the AEM, the PLX, the FJO, etc., they all work, since they all use the same sensor, so basically what you need to consider is what do you want your wideband to do, some just display the AFR and send out a signal, others have multiple outputs and inputs, some are dirt cheap, some are a little more pricey, it all depends on what you need, where you can get it, and how much spare sensors will cost later on.

Oh!, and if you can tailor your output signal so that you can understand both your datalogs (in the Haltech) and you can work properly with it to tune your engine.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Ive used the Innovated, the AEM, the PLX, the FJO, etc., they all work, since they all use the same sensor, so basically what you need to consider is what do you want your wideband to do, some just display the AFR and send out a signal, others have multiple outputs and inputs, some are dirt cheap, some are a little more pricey, it all depends on what you need, where you can get it, and how much spare sensors will cost later on.

Oh!, and if you can tailor your output signal so that you can understand both your datalogs (in the Haltech) and you can work properly with it to tune your engine.
thanks claudio ,what I would like to have is a wideband that is fairly easy to learn and has options ,now when I install the haltech and I want to fire it up (engine)for the first time, I want to make sure it runs rich not lean I was told to get a wideband to do the first steps .I'm not sure what to do you see some others say you don't need it because where you get it tuned they have there own wideband and also you should never keep it on your system when you drive it wears the sensor too fast (carbon)I don't want to go crazy on this I just want a gauge to tell me when something is wrong an injector is not working or other .PLEASE HELP
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:56 PM
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If your not going to tune your own car, then you dont really need a wideband. Its not a bad item to have, but the few hundred $$$ you spend on it, you could spend on having your engine tuned properly on a dyno. You can leave a wideband sensor installed in the car whlie you drive as long as the o2 sensor has power going to it ( so the o2 heater is working) and it should be fine for a long time
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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You can leave a wideband sensor installed in the car whlie you drive as long as the o2 sensor has power going to it ( so the o2 heater is working) and it should be fine for a long time
Use of leaded fuel will shorten the life of the sensor.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Magic?
Nah, it's called an EGT gauge...


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Are you implying that it might be possible to tune a Haltech with just the info from an EGT? I would like to hear more about this. I am very much a novice, but I've been working solely with a wideband--the Innovate LM-1 to be specific.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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To use it with the haltech you'll want something that has a linear 0-5 volt output whose mapping is programmable. You'll need a connector that can plug into the spare a/d port of the harness. Then you can datalog AFRs along with all the other data.

Most units don't have this programmable output. I know the FJO does, and the techedge does. Most of the other cheap ones don't...
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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thanks alot for your feeds guys I have decided to buy an AEM uego its simple and its good for me
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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Wideband units are usually only as good as the sensor. Bosch sensors are known not to like the high heat rotaries produce. Combine this with leaded fuel and you've usually got a dead sensor. I swear by ntk l1h1 sensors the cost like 150 bucks but they last forever and retain their acurracy. some widebands dont accept this sensor without modification though.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 1988RedT2
Are you implying that it might be possible to tune a Haltech with just the info from an EGT? I would like to hear more about this. I am very much a novice, but I've been working solely with a wideband--the Innovate LM-1 to be specific.
That's correct.
I don't require a wide-band, and I would rather tune with the EGT gauge.
Wide-bands makes it quicker to tune the fuel map, but it does nothing for ignition.
With the EGT gauge, I can tune both fuel and ignition.

This is not something for a novice, as it takes some experience to know what the EGT gauge is doing.
Wide-bands are easier cause you just tell the tuner to shoot for a specific #.


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