Ganador RX7 Mirrors
 

Hello!
I have been searching for Ganador side mirrors for over an year but wasn't able to find a pair for a decent price till yet. I'm getting one pair soon for myself and was wondering if I make replicas of the side mirrors would people buy them? Ganador side mirrors are the most demanded aftermarket mirrors for the RX7, original ones on JP auctions are selling over $1200 now and the price keeps increasing.

I have been making replica parts in both frp and aluminium since quite a time and I'm pretty sure I can do a decent job with the mirrors.

I have couple of ideas on how to make the mirrors but need your advice on what would you prefer the mirrors to be like...

1. Full Aluminium Side Mirrors
2. Full FRP Side Mirror
3. Aluminium base and FRP outer piece
4. Aluminium base and Plastic outer piece

I can also make a Carbon Fiber Cover for the mirror's like FEED does.
The mirrors will be manually controlled for sure unless someone can find what ganador uses for the mirror.

At this moment I have no idea on the price but It will be less than half what real ganadors are being sold for now.

If you have any suggestions or questions do let me know.

Thanks,
Fahad

I'd be first in line if you can produce good fitting/built Ganador replicas for a reasonable price.

If you can remold them for LHD, I'd be interested.

Looks like there's a set right now for $600 and $800 on yahoo auction right now. I've thought about buying them since I've seen em for $5-700 pretty regularly, but the RHD angling is a deal breaker for me ><

At one point Final Form USA produced a batch of mirror glass that had the angle fixed for LHD cars.:

https://finalformusa.com/shop/ganado...-lhd-vehicles/
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...rrors-1110435/

Might pay to ask them if they are willing to do another batch......

These were actually produced by Eric (known for his blog, Grand Mighty) and final form resold his extras.
Blue Tinted, Convex Gandador Lenses Installed | Grand Mighty

Hopefully they'll be well made Ganador Replicas. The work has already started and will be posting pictures soon.
The base I will be only making in Silver or Aluminium as they will be stronger than the FRP or Carbon ones.
I'm still not sure what to make the outer pieces with. (Options with those are Silver or Aluminium, FRP and Plastic) (Or it could depend on what the buyer wants)
Currently I'm trying to figure out if I can somehow make them Electric too. I have bought few electric mirrors from different cars and working out what can fit inside the mirror.

I'm not sure what the problem with the LHD cars are, from what I read you can perfectly see from the driver side mirror but viewing problems with the passenger ones?
What exactly is the problem? Does the mirror glass not turn enough to provide a good view?

The auctions you are looking at have few days remaining on them, keep updated with the auction especially in the last hour and see the price they go for... I followed few auctions trying to buy a pair but all the ones I saw sold for over 100k Yen.

I can't speak to the FD's Ganador mirrors, but my old S14 had mirrors from the RHD version, and I couldn't turn the mirrors far enough on the passenger side to be even remotely useful, and the driver side just barely got to where it needed to be. It wasn't a limitation of the motor, it was the mirror being unable to turn any further or closer in the housing.

And yea, they definitely have gone up in price over the past year or so, but there are always the "junk" ones that most people aren't willing to fix that still go for 50-70k range =P.

awesome I'd be interested in these for sure!

in for a exact replica at half a reasonable price. if your version is well made and well priced you can sell alot of units ! no more hunting for over priced mirrors lol

Mirror base ready to be test fitted on a door!
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...202f898fdc.jpg

NOTE: This is not a finished product yet...

Looks promising, nice work! I look forward to seeing your continued progress. :icon_tup:

im in for a pair

I want ganador mirrors too
 

Hey! Im looking for ganador mirrors, how are you going with this?

Update:
The mirror bases are ready to be test fitted on the doors before I start taking orders for them. The only hold up on them was being caused because I was having hard time finding doors, by the end of the month I should have two samples ready. (Electric and Manual)
The mirror bases will be made of silver and the mirror housing depends what the customer wants I have two options for them FRP or Carbon.
I'll also be making Carbon Covers like FEED does for the outer housing which can be used with the original ganadors too!

Thanks,
Fahad

I'm interested in this 100%.
FRP so I can paint them and possible the covers of I want to change it up.

I am 110% in! FRP as I want to paint to match. let me know and I will send $.

Very interested

Update:
This is the first pair to be test fitted on a car, minor work left before they are complete.

Please note on this Ganador the mirror base is the one I made, the outer piece is a real ganador mirror housing.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c812d5be18.jpg
TEST FIT

they look good to me

what are you thinking price wise?

At this moment I can't give out a price as I still have not calculated how much it would cost per pair. All I can say they won't be cheap but would try to keep the price lower then real Ganadors. I'll be offering many different options so the buyer can get a pair according to his budget. Just few more weeks before I have few pairs ready in different options so I can show it and set a price.

Thanks,
Fahad

Looks great. let me know when they are ready to ship.

I never realized that the Ganador mirrors don't actually *replace* the side triangle, but rather mount on top of it. Are there any other mirrors that do this? IIRC, Knightsport & RE-A use the OEM mounting that the triangles use, right?

Hello!
Good that you brought this topic up! All these JDM aftermarket side mirrors use stock mounting holes for the mirrors to mount and most of them do cover the side triangle. Only craft square mirrors mount where the side triangle is.
My mirrors will also be the same, mounting on stock holes.
I will also take special orders if someone wants them mounted in the side triangle in case the stock holes in the doors have been covered up.

Thanks,
Fahad

Question: Does anyone know why the mirror base on the ganadors mirrors aren't symmetrical?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...c3f9fa5d36.jpg

probably due to them being rhd angled so the driver can see better not the same angle for us hence the glass change

I'm not sure about that, both mirrors sit at the same angle but there is a difference in the base.

I think you're onto something.


Well, ALL Ganador mirrors are identical after the mount. Civic, 240SX, Supra - doesn't matter. The motors, glass, housings are all the same. It's the bases that are vehicle specific and it makes sense that the bases are where you are going to increase or decrease viewing angle for LHD / RHD vehicles.

I'm not sure if you've ever driven a LHD car with RHD mirrors - but you're all but blind. 100% form over function.

...not that it stops people from installing them. ;)

I suggest doing this on a lhd car because 95% of the people interested in this group buy have lhd cars

This is very true.

I have a RHD and still interested. Ganadors were made for RHD to begin with

Ganador on LHD
 

Trying to make LHD mirror bases now but no guarantees on them. I'm still working out the perfect angle to place the motors so the mirror glass could provide a good view.

Thanks for the pictures!

Question for all the ones who are using Ganadors on LHD Cars.

From what I know the LHS (Driver Mirror) is fine and viewing is not a problem from that mirror but the real problem is the Passenger Mirror (RHS) where you have to lean to the side to get a proper view.
So does the mirror have to be angled outwards or inwards to provide a better viewing angle.

I'll be making one pair of LHD Mirror bases to see if it solves the problem. I'll be posting it here and would need someone to check them on their car, if it solves the problem I'll probably have the mirror bases for sale too if someone needs them for their authentic ganadors.

Will also have a GB for Convex Ganador Mirror Glasses which should also fix the problem.

This progress is getting me very excited!
So the modified base is a must for this, or if you can recess the mirror into housing so the edge wont stick out.
1. On a RHD the drivers mirror can be near 90 degrees from the body to allow viewing easily, and the passenger side would be acute and turned in towards the body so say 75-80 degrees.
2. my recommendation take a straight edge (touch the glass and the mirror outer most point) and measure the distance from the base of the mirror to the straight edge, then compare left and right.
You would just need to flip the angles to make it work. My only fear of modifying the mirror base is making it look unsymmetrical from the outside. I would be careful that the angles look correct.

or get a RC car camber tool
https://www.rcsuperstore.com/RPM-Pre...shoppingengine

There is not much which can be done with the mirror housing very little space in it. All the work which is required to fix viewing angle for LHD Cars has to be done in the mirror base.

Mirror Bases are already unsymmetrical from the outside if you look very closely. My guy made mirror bases in fiberglass so we can work on the viewing angle for LHD Cars. Will post again once there is progress.

If anyone wants Ganador replicas for RHD Cars I'll have them ready soon...

Any update?

I've always liked Ganadors but the lack of function killed it for me :(. So if you can solve the view problem by re-engineering the base, I believe you will have a very marketable product.

The hold up on the mirrors is because I'm re doing the mirror bases for LHD FD's. Once they are ready I'll be posting them.

Yep, GrandMighty did this and sold his spares via FinalForm. if I recall correctly.

[QUOTE=FEED AFFLUX v5;12316482]Yep, GrandMighty did this and sold his spares via FinalForm.

That's not a proper fix for LHD FD's convex mirrors do provide a better viewing angle then the original ones, I tried getting convex mirrors made here but there is no one who does it so I had to fix the mirror base and angle them properly for LHD FD's.