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Heedlessone 08-17-15 07:35 PM

The finish will look similar to the parts we currently sell, in other words, OEM. We use the printer to get the fitment correct before using the design to create a mold.

Smokey The Talon 08-17-15 08:12 PM

I have a cluster trim out if my car right now so I could quickly fit it and show pics for you. No broken tabs or mounts. PM me if I can be of help.

sukimoto 08-18-15 10:21 AM

yes, mattgold understood me correctly. this is like what i am looking for


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...fa659a6459.jpg

Heedlessone 08-18-15 11:04 AM

Okay, we'll keep that in mind for future development. Thanks!


Originally Posted by sukimoto (Post 11956799)
yes, mattgold understood me correctly. this is like what i am looking for


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...fa659a6459.jpg


Trout2 08-19-15 01:22 AM

A quality gauge pod for the center speaker would be great since the FlyRx7 pods are no longer available on a consistent basis.

Jack

MattGold 08-19-15 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Trout2 (Post 11957219)
A quality gauge pod for the center speaker would be great since the FlyRx7 pods are no longer available on a consistent basis.

Jack

The TriPoint ones are usually available from Rotary Performance:
RX7.COM | FD Gauges

-M

streetlegal? 08-19-15 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sukimoto (Post 11956799)
yes, mattgold understood me correctly. this is like what i am looking for

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...fa659a6459.jpg

I like how that looks. I'm working on one for one of my other cars for the defroster vent.

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Heedlessone what modeling software are you using?

Narfle 08-20-15 11:37 AM

How do fancy electric gauges deal with extreme heat and cold? That's what they'll be exposed to in the HVAC vent. Stupid for anything but a full track machine with no air.

pingu81 08-20-15 11:39 AM

^ That's great. Retaining the functionality of the vents yet allowing 2 gauges to be added in an aesthetically-pleasing solution.

Rocketeerbandit 08-20-15 11:42 AM

If the vents are able to be used, I'm sold

streetlegal? 08-20-15 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Narfle (Post 11957861)
How do fancy electric gauges deal with extreme heat and cold? That's what they'll be exposed to in the HVAC vent. Stupid for anything but a full track machine with no air.

I will have the gauges completely separated from the air flow so they would only be subject to the conducted heat through the plastic.


Originally Posted by pingu81 (Post 11957862)
^ That's great. Retaining the functionality of the vents yet allowing 2 gauges to be added in an aesthetically-pleasing solution.

I still need to put the fins back into it for deflecting the air towards the window and the "tunnel" to put the wires through so you don't see them in the vent.


Originally Posted by Rocketeerbandit (Post 11957866)
If the vents are able to be used, I'm sold

I could try and do something for the center vent of the FD. The directional control of the vent would be gone but it wouldn't be hard to make it so it still vents instead of completely covering it.

mjc1055 08-20-15 03:36 PM

If you're in this to make money, I really think you're going to make a lot more producing high quality OEM plastic replacement pieces. In the long run, some people will buy a specific gauge mounting solution, and many will go with others - everybody has different taste.

However, EVERYBODY will fall victim to old, shitty, degrading plastics.

Halfbridge 08-20-15 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by mjc1055 (Post 11957970)
If you're in this to make money, I really think you're going to make a lot more producing high quality OEM plastic replacement pieces. In the long run, some people will buy a specific gauge mounting solution, and many will go with others - everybody has different taste.

However, EVERYBODY will fall victim to old, shitty, degrading plastics.

:icon_tup:

MattGold 08-20-15 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by mjc1055 (Post 11957970)
If you're in this to make money, I really think you're going to make a lot more producing high quality OEM plastic replacement pieces. In the long run, some people will buy a specific gauge mounting solution, and many will go with others - everybody has different taste.

However, EVERYBODY will fall victim to old, shitty, degrading plastics.

Yeah... this "wish list" has kinda veered this off course. I 100% agree. OEM quality replacements for interior plastics is what's needed. :icon_tup:

Narfle 08-20-15 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by streetlegal? (Post 11957940)
I will have the gauges completely separated from the air flow so they would only be subject to the conducted heat through the plastic.

Neat.

streetlegal? 08-20-15 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by mjc1055 (Post 11957970)
If you're in this to make money, I really think you're going to make a lot more producing high quality OEM plastic replacement pieces. In the long run, some people will buy a specific gauge mounting solution, and many will go with others - everybody has different taste.

However, EVERYBODY will fall victim to old, shitty, degrading plastics.

I agree however, the one I am doing now, and anything along these lines I wouldn't do to make money. I enjoy doing this sort of stuff and like helping others in the community.

mjc1055 08-20-15 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by streetlegal? (Post 11958105)
I agree however, the one I am doing now, and anything along these lines I wouldn't do to make money. I enjoy doing this sort of stuff and like helping others in the community.

That's cool, but I was talking to OP since this was his thread and he was trying to gauge interest for doing some of these plastics.

I'm sure if you built some of those pods, they'd sell too, though :icon_tup:

Heedlessone 08-21-15 12:42 AM

We have gone a little off-topic, but I enjoy seeing what people want.

Making money isn't a bad thing, but the main goal is to fill the plastics gap in the market. There are many options for smaller, aftermarket parts, but it seems there is an absence of OEM quality replacement parts - which clearly the community desires. We want to work up to making the larger parts and earn the trust of the community before committing to such a task. If the byproduct of our endeavor is a lucrative business, it just means we're doing something right.

ROTARYFDTT 08-21-15 05:14 AM


Originally Posted by Heedlessone (Post 11956394)
That is definitely something we haven't talked about. Is this a part that people want to see?

I would really like this to go into production as well.

nguybao 08-21-15 10:30 PM


Originally Posted by Heedlessone (Post 11958153)
We have gone a little off-topic, but I enjoy seeing what people want.

Making money isn't a bad thing, but the main goal is to fill the plastics gap in the market. There are many options for smaller, aftermarket parts, but it seems there is an absence of OEM quality replacement parts - which clearly the community desires. We want to work up to making the larger parts and earn the trust of the community before committing to such a task. If the byproduct of our endeavor is a lucrative business, it just means we're doing something right.

Doooo it 👍👍

Marf 08-22-15 03:48 AM

Any chance of RHD parts?

Heedlessone 08-22-15 09:57 PM

That's a good question - I'm not sure. We don't have access to many RHD drive pieces, but it appears they are essentially the same but mirrored imaged, which would be easy to do. It might be something we look into if the demand is there.

MattGold 08-22-15 10:14 PM

The thing about RHD is that there are 7 more years of production than LHD - so there's no shortage of (used) replacement bits.

What do you need Marf?

Smokey The Talon 08-23-15 07:24 AM

I got a chance to test fit the piece yesterday. I think it's close and just needs some tweaks.

To start, here's the original piece
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...psrlnphkbj.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...pslwflviqv.jpg

Here's the initial fit. The shape of the piece is very good and follows the outline and shape of the factory switch. The blank unfortunately just doesn't fit far enough in to be flush with the console trim.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...psm6shmizz.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...psxhlqp0v7.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...psnj2fxjq5.jpg

There are a couple of tweaks that I think could help. I think the angle of the screw mount tabs is a bit off not allowing it to fit flush. Also I showed the factory piece that has a recess to fit the post from the trim into and align them together. Incorporating a design like that would help a lot. Also the screw holes need to be a tiny bit bigger as the screws out some small cracks in the piece when going thru it.
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...pscq4vqxcz.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...pshhpsuyon.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...pslcvxlycd.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...ps35jbybja.jpg
http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z...pswy5yutiz.jpg

MazdaspeedR1 08-23-15 08:07 AM

the pieces that go at the end of the dash with the vents on them. Both discontinued.


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