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Level Zero Motorsports 05-05-12 01:43 AM

Front Diff Mount Prototype
 
Finally had a bit of time to work on some development projects. First on the short list was a replacement for the front diff mount seeing as how mine needs replacing.

All in all I'm very happy with the results. The polyurethane bushings were a bit challenging to make due to their relatively small size, but ended up better then I expected. I still need to set up a jig to check the dimensions but it should only take minor tweaking to get it perfect.

One of the largest challenges was to make sure that the mount properly isolated the diff from the subframe. If the mount isn't designed right, then when you accel/decel quickly the mount can clunk. When I get time I'll try to remember to post a cross section of the mount so everyone can see what I'm talking about.

It's still missing some washers and the bolts for the subframe but I don't have anything the right size in stock at the moment.

http://levelzeromotorsports.com/imag...ff_mount_1.jpg

http://levelzeromotorsports.com/imag...ff_mount_2.jpg

http://levelzeromotorsports.com/imag...ff_mount_3.jpg

ruddyrid 05-05-12 11:31 AM

Beefy!!!

rotary#10 05-05-12 11:44 AM

Nice!!

slowgxl 05-05-12 07:01 PM

Please let me know when you start selling this. I would love to buy this for my car. Need something strong for drifting.

JWteknix 05-05-12 07:18 PM

I'll take one

misterstyx69 05-05-12 07:22 PM

I'll take one too.

beachFC 05-05-12 07:25 PM

i'll take one tooooo

Level Zero Motorsports 05-05-12 10:58 PM

I'll be at least a few weeks before I can have these in stock and ready to ship. I still need to do test fitments and so stress testing would be nice as well.

SpikeDerailed 05-06-12 01:21 PM

And I just dropped my subframe today...

PortedRotorTuner 05-07-12 07:39 AM

Might be interested in putting this on my time attack FC.
I'll be watching this thread. To see how she holds up.

BurntOrangeT2 05-07-12 10:18 AM

Subed to this bad boy...too many nightmares of finding new subframes and replacing that damn mount....quality piece sir...hope it makes it to production.

Alexsrx 05-08-12 05:23 PM

Sign me up for one too, mine is starting to knock too so timing couldnt be more perfect on this. Hope this this quality looking piece makes it into production soon!!

magus2222 05-09-12 08:58 PM

id be interested in this since i already have the bmc stopper from you guys.
should pair well with my suspension setup and the pinion snubber

Lloyd

rx7jocke 05-11-12 08:34 AM

Damn it i want one!!

BurntOrangeT2 05-16-12 11:58 AM

Any progressin terms of testing the prototype?

JWteknix 05-24-12 05:59 PM

^^bump?

Level Zero Motorsports 05-26-12 12:14 AM

Been swamped catching up on some parts we have started to run low on. My goal for this weekend is to finally get some work done on my FC, which if it goes well includes fitting the prototype finally.

JWteknix 05-27-12 04:28 AM

So when will these go in to production?

blindboxx2334 05-28-12 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by slowgxl (Post 11080422)
Please let me know when you start selling this. I would love to buy this for my car. Need something strong for drifting.


Originally Posted by SpikeDerailed (Post 11081181)
And I just dropped my subframe today...


Originally Posted by BurntOrangeT2 (Post 11082014)
Subed to this bad boy...too many nightmares of finding new subframes and replacing that damn mount....quality piece sir...hope it makes it to production.

All of the above!

I will be watching this thread! Ive got literally every bushing bought for my rear emd cept the diff mount.

RotaryEvolution 05-28-12 02:28 PM

looks nice but you may want to test it before selling them.

i have seen enough force on the diff nose to shear off the whole thick steel plate mount tab from the subframe. call me skeptical but i see too many wear angles and not enough load bearing surface on the actual mount. i did think the other design would work that was posted up before where the pucks took on direct load instead of transferring it as a torsional load. i just envision it may be rather solid feeling at first but it will wear quickly until the point where the bolts are doing the work and either wear out the aluminum body or shear the bolts off.

hopefully you take no offense, the materials and machining look good.

Digi7ech 05-29-12 11:52 AM

^I also worry about this design.

The sheering force is always the issue with our stock mount. The bonded rubber was a serious weak point.

I liked that sandwich style that fell through with the AZ guy. It turned the upward force into compression instead of sheering.

Level Zero Motorsports 06-01-12 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Karack (Post 11105399)
looks nice but you may want to test it before selling them.

i have seen enough force on the diff nose to shear off the whole thick steel plate mount tab from the subframe. call me skeptical but i see too many wear angles and not enough load bearing surface on the actual mount. i did think the other design would work that was posted up before where the pucks took on direct load instead of transferring it as a torsional load. i just envision it may be rather solid feeling at first but it will wear quickly until the point where the bolts are doing the work and either wear out the aluminum body or shear the bolts off.

hopefully you take no offense, the materials and machining look good.

No offense taken, and very valid points. These will be tested as much as possible before they make it to production. A part like this is quite challenging to design because not only does it have to function well, it also has to be cost effective to produce. If I was making this for only my car, I'd mill it out of a single large block of aluminum and have bushings on both planes.

I've included a cross section of the mount so everyone can see how the bushings isolate the plates from each other. One of my primary concerns besides durability, is making sure it doesn't "clunk" under heavy loads. I know I'd personally be very angry if I went through the trouble of installing a diff mount, and it made a unpleasant noise every time I launched hard or was on/off the throttle quickly.

blame 06-03-12 06:27 PM

i can't wait to see this in production. i literally just minutes ago ordered your poly engine/trans mounts and DTSS bushings off your site. looks like you make good stuff

-sean

SpeedyRotary 06-03-12 09:25 PM

I'm interested to see the turn out of these!

Level Zero Motorsports 06-04-12 12:49 AM


Originally Posted by blame (Post 11112031)
i can't wait to see this in production. i literally just minutes ago ordered your poly engine/trans mounts and DTSS bushings off your site. looks like you make good stuff

-sean

Thanks. You order will be shipped first thing tomorrow.


Originally Posted by SpeedyRotary (Post 11112203)
I'm interested to see the turn out of these!

Me too :)

blindboxx2334 06-05-12 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by blame (Post 11112031)
i can't wait to see this in production. i literally just minutes ago ordered your poly engine/trans mounts and DTSS bushings off your site. looks like you make good stuff

-sean

i got their dtss kit in the mail not too long ago, you will not be dissapointed. nice stuff.



still in for this! :icon_tup:

Gregory Casimir 06-08-12 09:25 AM

I too have the delrin motor mounts and dtss kit from them and can't say nothing but good things!

put me down on the waiting list for this! :)

blame 06-17-12 01:25 PM

Hey man, just wanted to say my mounts/bushings etc came in and they look fantastic. So good in fact that my buddy has begged and persuaded me to let him use them on his fc.

I'll be ordering up another full setup for mine (mine is up on jack stands and gutted for a while so it's not a big deal) but I'm wondering if it's worth it to wait for the diff mount to be finished and order everything at once? Have you had any more luck testing your prototype?

Thanks bud

-sean

hioctane-dtc 06-18-12 05:42 PM

Any updates on the progress? I'm totally down for a set of these diff mounts.

So far I've got your master brake cylinder brace installed in my FC, it's an awesome piece that I think every FC owner will appreciate. I also have the poly motor mount, poly tranny mount, and the DTSS kit from you, quality of these parts are fantastic.

misterstyx69 06-19-12 01:53 AM

how's the mount going Guys?
I want one!..Update??

Level Zero Motorsports 06-20-12 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by blame (Post 11127600)
Hey man, just wanted to say my mounts/bushings etc came in and they look fantastic. So good in fact that my buddy has begged and persuaded me to let him use them on his fc.

I'll be ordering up another full setup for mine (mine is up on jack stands and gutted for a while so it's not a big deal) but I'm wondering if it's worth it to wait for the diff mount to be finished and order everything at once? Have you had any more luck testing your prototype?

Thanks bud

-sean

It's best not to wait. We have been swamped setting up a new machine and doing some maintenance on one of our other machines.

As far as the prototype goes. Fitment is good, but we still need to make sure the mounts are put through their paces and can take a beating. Due to the nature of this part we can't rush testing as much as I'd love to.

blame 06-23-12 06:33 PM

roger that. i'll order up another set this week

-sean

my88vert 07-03-12 01:51 AM

Not rushing you but any new updates? Looking forward to hearing some good news soon!

superjeff 07-04-12 05:50 AM

Sure looks nice. Wonder how it will work out...

Level Zero Motorsports 07-06-12 12:55 AM

No news currently. We stumbled on a great deal on a development car and have been making room for it. I'm thinking the best thing to do is to make a few more and find some people willing to help us test them. I just don't have the time to put it through the paces as quickly as we would like.

misterstyx69 07-06-12 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Level Zero Motorsports (Post 11148230)
No news currently. We stumbled on a great deal on a development car and have been making room for it. I'm thinking the best thing to do is to make a few more and find some people willing to help us test them. I just don't have the time to put it through the paces as quickly as we would like.

I'd buy one just to test it!

my88vert 07-07-12 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by Level Zero Motorsports (Post 11148230)
No news currently. We stumbled on a great deal on a development car and have been making room for it. I'm thinking the best thing to do is to make a few more and find some people willing to help us test them. I just don't have the time to put it through the paces as quickly as we would like.

I would buy one to test depending on the price to test. I have broken 2 already

blmcquig 07-07-12 06:47 PM

I'll happily test one as well.

sharingan 19 07-08-12 01:26 PM

I need to swap out my diff anyway, so I could imstall one then.

atli126 07-13-12 02:07 AM

Cool

Level Zero Motorsports 07-18-12 12:09 AM

Lrt me see what I can do about getting some more prototypes done.

JWteknix 07-25-12 07:28 AM

I'd be interested as well

Gregory Casimir 08-04-12 01:59 AM

^same here!

atli126 08-11-12 04:52 PM

Any eta on these?

Level Zero Motorsports 08-21-12 12:32 AM

We're swamped right now getting the newest machine set up and sorted out. once we get it all squared away, it should free up a lot of machine time on the primary mill.

misterstyx69 09-16-12 01:25 AM

How's this going Guys.I built a garage since last post!

JWteknix 09-16-12 07:05 AM

Lol I'm still waiting too

Alexsrx 09-20-12 06:06 PM

^ lol same here, and now my diff bushing is doing the dreaded thunk!

fastorlast 10-10-12 10:24 AM

Interested as well

Gregory Casimir 10-10-12 12:52 PM

still want one


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