General Rotary Tech Support Use this forum for tech questions not specific to a certain model year
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

Went single, excessive crank case pressure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 16, 2013 | 02:25 PM
  #26  
Gilgamesh's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 846
Likes: 14
From: hsv al
take a picture for us.
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2013 | 02:26 PM
  #27  
evo_koa's Avatar
Martin S.
Tenured Member: 10 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 123
From: Huntsville, Al
yes, take a picture
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2013 | 04:51 PM
  #28  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
Ok I'm headed camping now so it will be about a week
Reply
Old Aug 16, 2013 | 05:19 PM
  #29  
con-3-fc3s's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: hI,MaUi
What a pickle!... Wondering wth could be the problem?..lol
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2013 | 03:14 PM
  #30  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
First video is after it has sat for 5 days and also I try and show how I ran my catch can.
Second video is after it's warmed up a little about 75c not fully warmed up but you can see the smoke. Help.
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2013 | 05:52 PM
  #31  
R-R-Rx7's Avatar
Rotor or no motor
Tenured Member: 15 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (24)
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 3,741
Likes: 498
From: Limassol, CYPRUS
What oil feed restriction do u have on the turbo?

Remove the oil feed line from the turbo and hold it from spinning while starting. I had this problem before on a basically brand new engine and it ended up being just the turbo restriction
Reply
Old Aug 19, 2013 | 06:05 PM
  #32  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
It's the one that came with aspec's gt3574r turbo kit, I have the small hole on the restrictor pointing up and the bigger hole threaded in to the turbo.
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 10:27 AM
  #33  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
Is that right??
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:10 PM
  #34  
con-3-fc3s's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: hI,MaUi
Idk how that one suppose to be but on my turbos and oil feed lines had the restrictor hole facing down and the -3 or -4 facing up?....

It's crazy how much smoke is coming out of the oil cap!....
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2013 | 05:20 PM
  #35  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
Yeah I know. I really hope I don't have to pull my motor apart
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 11:25 AM
  #36  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
Someone has to know why my car is doing this.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 11:55 AM
  #37  
Ghooble's Avatar
Full Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 166
Likes: 0
From: Granite Falls, WA
I don't think you'll have to pull your engine apart because really no part of your combustion chamber is linked to the oil pan.

Things that are linked to the pan are your turbo, venting systems, and your oil pump.

My bet is on your venting system some how doing this but we've already been through it.

The way I have mine set up on my FB is center iron connected to my intake (little behind my air filter) and the fill neck hooked up to my carburetor vacuum.

This is all speculation of course but I don't want to believe that a freshly rebuilt engine is the problem.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 01:12 PM
  #38  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Wow, so your oil dipstick is actually popping out from the pressure?

Hate to say it, but it's possible it is the engine. If the combustion gases are somehow getting past the side/corner seal into (and past) the oil control rings, then I believe this could be the result.

I've seen many cars with crankcase venting issues, and none of them smoked out the fill neck like that, or had their dipsticks come out. That's a lot of pressure.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 03:29 PM
  #39  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
So at this point there's really nothing I can do besides pull the motor?
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 03:47 PM
  #40  
evo_koa's Avatar
Martin S.
Tenured Member: 10 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 123
From: Huntsville, Al
yikes
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 04:18 PM
  #41  
ghost1000's Avatar
TaK
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 312
Likes: 1
From: delaware
No need to rebuild. Buy a air filter to replace your oil cap. I thought this was a common issue.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 05:24 PM
  #42  
con-3-fc3s's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: hI,MaUi
No it's not a common issue..Lol That's why it hasn't been solved yet..
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 07:04 PM
  #43  
rx3sum's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 145
Likes: 0
From: Western Australia
The catch can is poorly setup.Have a look on ausrotary and search user bumpstart as he goes into details of how it should be done.
Next bet would be the turbo try and borrow a good one to test fit.
Also make sure turbo oil drain has a direct downward path to the sump/timing cover.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2013 | 10:35 PM
  #44  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by xshawn801x
So at this point there's really nothing I can do besides pull the motor?
I hesitate to tell you '100%, pull the motor' at this point.

Ideally you'd pull off the turbo system and check out the exhaust ports for oil, then run the car N/A..... my shop has a header built specifically for this purpose.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 11:28 AM
  #45  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
The turbo is brand new, I bought it from you goodfellas. The drain line is straight down. Maybe a possibility that the turbo seals haven't set in yet?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 12:40 PM
  #46  
con-3-fc3s's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member: 15 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 181
Likes: 0
From: hI,MaUi
No the seals don't need to settle and their already set and balanced from factory.

You got some other problem, how much miles does the motor have?.

Also keep checking your spark plugs for oil build up?...
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 12:56 PM
  #47  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
The motor has about 13k on it and I replaced the spark plugs this morning and it didn't look like any oil was there at all
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 02:05 PM
  #48  
evo_koa's Avatar
Martin S.
Tenured Member: 10 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,555
Likes: 123
From: Huntsville, Al
do you have a warranty on the motor from pineapple?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 03:58 PM
  #49  
xshawn801x's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 242
Likes: 1
From: SL, UT
I bought it from a guy on the forum. I called pineapple and they said they would inspect it for free
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2013 | 06:31 PM
  #50  
GoodfellaFD3S's Avatar
Original Gangster/Rotary!
Veteran: Army
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (213)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 30,804
Likes: 646
From: FL-->NJ/NYC again!
Originally Posted by xshawn801x
The turbo is brand new, I bought it from you goodfellas. The drain line is straight down. Maybe a possibility that the turbo seals haven't set in yet?
From me? Shoot me a PM with the particulars.

Dipstick coming out due to pressure IMO cannot be the turbo, sounds like it's the engine. Ideally you want to pull the entire turbo system off and run it with headers..... I suppose you could bolt on a T-4 shaped plate in place of the turbo as well.
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:41 PM.