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Old 08-14-07, 10:05 PM
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Rx7 will not stay running

Alrighty, I killed the rx in a parking lot 2nd gear, tried to start it (TOO many times). Definately flooded the engine. So I went and got new spark plugs. I got it running (kinda) Sounded terrible, ran very choppy. So I decided it was overflooded and needed a push start. So we pushed it down a hill. Got it running but sounded awful and was blowing lots of smoke out the exhaust. Enough that you could get lost in it. The only thing that I have not tried is the unflooding procedure because I just cannot find it back again. Ideas anyone? Are my apex seals done for? Is it just still flooded? What in teh #### is going on?
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best unflood procedure i've found:

1. remove leading plugs
2. turn over motor for ~60 seconds
3. remove trailing plugs
4. put 1-2oz oil in leading plug holes
5. dry plugs
6. replace plugs
7. turn over motor by hand 6+ times
8. replace plug wires
9. start.
Old 08-14-07, 11:17 PM
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so you think it is still flooded? nothing else wrong ? or your just saying try this first?
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Little bit of info

So I got to thinking... If the apex seals were shot or had a bad seal with the rotor housing then more than likely it would not push start. Am I right on this assumption?
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If all of them were broken, then yes. If one of your seals is stuck or broken, then the other rotor and one phase of that rotor should fire. This should lead to a motor that sounds horribly choppy.

If you think your apex seals are shot do this.

Remove front leading plug. Turn engine by hand or with EGI fuse removed. Listen for Chug Chug Chug. Chug puh puh is a broken/stuck apex seal.

Repeat with rear leading plug. If both rotors produce 3 solid pulses you should be good on that front.

Have you checked the ignition?
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Lost...

First off thank all of you all for your input. I really appreciate it.

Sorry for the length of the post, just want to be specific. :P

Just incase i thought i would post setup quick too.

93 FD 97 Jspec Engine (20k miles), T40s Single Turbo "race model" not street (2k on that.

Exedy twin plate clutch/lightweight flywheel
3" stainless steel Midpipe
Greddy SP Cat-back exhaust system
M2 AST elimination kit
Pettit Racing underdrive pulley
Koyo radiator
Greddy Pully Kit
Greddy oil catch tank
Greddy 3-Row intercooler kit
Greddy Aluminum elbow (compression tube)
Greddy Type-S blow off valve
Stock primary injectors, cleaned and flow-tested by RC Engineering less then 500 miles ago
Billit secondary fuel rail + 1600cc injectors + wiring
Upgraded fuel pump - MKIV Toyota Supra
Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
Apex-I Power FC


The compression seems to be good, I did the test that kontakt told me to.
The Ignition seems to be fine. All spark plugs fire.

I have gotten it to run, however, it is very VERY choppy. It will not stay running with out someone pushing in the gas. The max rpm I can get to is about 3500. Thats about when the turbo kicks in decently. There is a hole in the top part of the lower intake manifold. Originally used for the air control valve (which is no longer there) located just underneath the upper intake manifold. It billows smoke while the car runs. What I understand is that originally that port is for the recirculation of exhaust gas. When the turbo spools a small amount of oil shoots out of this hole. Is it supposed to be plugged? There is no longer an EGR valve. I know that my turbo seals are not shot. There are no signs of oil in the downpipe to the intercooler or anywhere from the turbo to the uim for that matter. While the car runs it billows smoke out the exhaust and that hole in upper half of the lower intake. This smoke is definately a mixture of unburnt fuel/oil. I have tried relocating a few vaccum lines to see if it was a plugged hole, not much changed with any configuration that I tried. If I disconnect the map (pressure sensor) the car runs the EXACT same. Blown diaphram from hard stall? I tried resetting the ecu by disconnecting the battery and pushing brake in for 1 min to hopefully bring it out of limp home mode if in fact it ever made it to that mode. After running the car for a period of time and then turning it off it becomes impossible to start without unflooding it. It will catch and fire a few times (20 revolutions or so) but just cant keep it going.

One thing that caught me off gaurd. There is a vaccum line comming off of each oil injector. They connect to a T connection but the output of that T connector is connected to nothing. Is this ok? will it cause the oil injectors to release more oil than what is supposed to?

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Will
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