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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:59 AM
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Premixing 2 stroke engine oils with fuel

Is it possible to premix 2 stroke engine oils in fuel and use it for rotary? For example motul has oils for 2 stroke engines with great lubricating and heat absorbin characteristics. they recomend 98/2 percentage ratio on 2 stroke engines which dont have other lubricating sources. I guess 1% will be good for rotary. I'm asking it because special premixes like idemitsu are not available here and during autocross or track events i want to take extra care of my engine.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:05 PM
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anybody?
this is the same oil which is used in motorcycles, go carts etc
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I premix 75 to 1 with 2 stroke. Same I use on my dirtbike. But it is for a specific application.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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So it will not work for the rotary?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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yes, it will work.
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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I have read here that many people use mixtures as lean as 70-80 to 1 ratios. back about 10-15 years ago, we used a roughly 20-30:1 mixtures on our dirt bikes. any one here run mixtures that rich? or do the rotaries not need that much oil.

i'm assuming that since you are mixing, that you have removed the oil metering pump?
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Old Dec 23, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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i run 1 oz per gal w/o oil metering pump
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 02:41 AM
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i'm assuming that since you are mixing, that you have removed the oil metering pump?
no i just want to provide extra protection during autoX and track events. I'm not planing to premix regulary
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 03:23 AM
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use da search option
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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use da search option
Yes, the search option works great, but many boards flame posters for reviving old dead threads even if they were never answered. YMMV. I don't know how people on this board react to that.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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Let me clerify I use 75 to 1 on my 13b that has a twin setup.
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Old Dec 24, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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I premix 1oz per gallon on a 13brew single turbo with the OMP removed.

Usually it is just the Valvoline ashless stuff you can buy at Checker or WalMart.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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my OMP is working, I just need extra protection during track events. thats why i want to premix with working OMP. thats why I asked if 1% was enough
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 11:48 AM
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u should use 4oz per tank...to much may cause detonation
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