I'm not gonna continue to argue w/ over a car forum -_-...if you wanna squash this like men you can call me

I can take that as a compliment

600whp does seem a bit unrealistic, especially if your trying to do it on a budget, so don't be surprised if you get negative feedback. i understand your looking for advice and i give you credit for that but don't get mad at someone because they tell you it will be hard and possibly not attainable the way you want to do it. ( also leave the gangsta talk at highschool, people wont take you seriously)

Woooow you don't even know whats goin on here, 50 posts later & you have it all figured out...your comment is irrelevant but as far as ppl sayin its a hard to reach that goal, that didn't get anyone upset -_-

Listen squirt... I already told you I'm not going to argue with you on here any more. Truth be told arguing with you on an open thread is reminding me of the old reason why you never argue with an idiot on the internet. You're simply trying to drag people down to your (lower) level so you can attempt to beat them with (retard) experience.

I stated before that you're welcome to PM me if you've got issues, there isn't a chance in hell I'm going to let a simian like you get my cell number though. I don't need that kind of retarded ass harassment.

You mad? You throwin a lot of insults out...bottom line is you came at me wrong & disrespected me for no reason & you know it, thats all that happened jus face it

Hey its easy to call people out to "handle it like men" when they are hundreds of miles away...

but I'm local and dont mind slapping around a mouthy newb on behalf of other forum members who have paid their dues. Pm for directions.

Or be slightly more respectful and read a whole lot more to learn a lot more.

It's funny how I'm a "mouthy little newb" bc you THINK you know the whole story LOL...its jus a classic case of someone not wanting to admit they were wrong & dragging me into this bs, no one said anything to anyone right up until I was blatantly disrespected bc fendamonkey did not understand my question -_______- & posting the same thing on two sites (which for some reason is illegal to him) ...he knows exactly what he did & what happened but since he's been here a while he's got experience in making new members seem like they're in the wrong to everyone else (more bs that's happened) even when there's a VERY SLIM CHANCE that they even know half the story -_-...so I'll give him that, he's prob on the other side of that computer chessin hard as hell bc I look like a typical arrogant noob & he's the seasoned pro jus puttin me in my place, I was the one dragged down to a lower level & beat w/ experience, obviously, look at the posts & join date duh...he'll prob have a rebuttal to what I say like clockwork but he knows EXACTLY what he did, has done, & has no prob w/ destroying a new members credibility for no reason, I'm done explaining myself

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Dude, when NOBODY understands what the hell you're asking it's not our fault. It's yours.

I helped you out by clarifying what you were asking for information about after this thread was bumped because NOBODY UNDERSTOOD WTF YOU WERE SAYING. It's not my fault your e-thug reading and writing skills suck.

And I'm sorry, but it is well beyond my power and scope of influence to destroy anybody's credibility on here. Just like integrity, credibility is not something that somebody else can take away from you... It's one of those things that ONLY YOU can throw away.

Think about it.

have you ever heard of the concept of "paragraphs" when writing English?

I'm surprised people are rising up to this troll LOL

In regards to the Apexi Power FC, it is capable of running big numbers eg Dragon Performance in the UK with their FD on a power FC and a quarter mile of 9.1 @ 158mph

You need a big frame turbo eg GT42,BW400 series,T88GK etc etc, a GT35R will not cut it.

You do need large porting on the engine

Does it need to be dowelled for that power? no, there are at least 3 FD3S in the UK running low 9s with no dowelling.

Can you get 550wp on a budget? No, it will not just cost you $2k lol

The fact I'm answering a Trolls thread I need my brain examined, but it is a quiet afternoon at work and I need to be entertained :lol:

Ok I've been said since I'm not as experienced as you my rotary vocabulary isn't as high, as far as this e-thug thing Wth do you mean, I can tell we both do not let ppl disrespect us, especially for no reason, I take responsibility for what I said but I wasn't lyin, I would slap that person who came up to me, didn't know me, & jus randomly disrespected me, don't put a "thug" label on it -_- bc theres no difference when you break someone's arm...I agree w/ you to an extent on the credibility, but you have ppl that dont even know HALF the story, comin on here calling me all sorts of bs when its not even their business -_- I mean cmon, that's clearly damaging to credibility bc I'm labeled a typicla noob for what? & AGAIN, if you don't understand me, don't disrespect me bc for some reason you're still doin it & are truly dead wrong

I'm not trolling, you see what I mean fendamonkey, what's the cause for all that, I really do need/want useful good info that I have RECEIVED jus from a very general question!!! That's perfect & is all I wanted. The info I got on theses threads have been very informative & useful, but if you don't understand me, have a prob w/ my paragraphs -_-, or think I'm arrogant, is that really a cause for any attiude?

LOL more drama here than theater, all we need is costumes

Hey hey Mark!

I didn't realize you were still bumping around these parts! lol. I just popped over to FDUK to see what's been going on there. I'm shocked that you've not suggested our young "rota" fan invest in a stock FD fuel pump to support his 600whp build (as it seems it may be going that direction). :rofl:

Seriously, your never going to make 600hp with an RX-7...I think the record for any rotary vehicle is rwhp is 550hp and that was done by the 787B with millions of dollars and unlimited engineering.

So just forget the whole idea, go buy a civic or a 240...they can make 600hp.

andno one wlls get made @ u 4 rightn n reterdo imternets langwedge for realz i mean yeah

^:rofl::rofl:

can't we all just get along?

I've made over a 1000rwhp on a rotary. I must be the world record holder then. Lol

Shhh!!!

Stop spreading such lies... :suspect:

I'm jus gone see where I can get w/ this, when I have the best choices...input on these choices please

-large streetport
-a-spec billet6765, to4z, s259
-best tune I can find, haltech or pfc
-1000/1000cc injectors or 1000/1200cc
-dual walbro pump
-coolingmist 250psi pump with a c10 injector 800cc running 100% water
-exhaust is 4" all the way back
-2 or 3 bar map sensor

At first glance, you don't have enough injector. Might have enough for upper 400 probably mid 400s depending on the type of fuel.

Better off using 1600s or better, 2000cc.

More fuel allows you to run more boost w/o blowin up right?

erm...WHAT?

^ lol thats what i say aswell

It should have been written in cyan, lol. I read it as his (not so subtle) way of saying that the OP would likely be more welcome in a different car community.


But yeah... 1000/1000 injectors will make you fall flat on your face if you're hunting that much power. 1600 secondaries *might* get you there, but 1000/2000 is a better bet.

Also, I have no personal experience with walbro pumps, but I've read enough bad things about them that I wouldn't chance it. I'd go, instead, with dual Denso pumps, or a Denso intank and a Bosch 044 inline.

And.... Water injection is a def good idea, however 100% water is not the best idea. Pure water and pure meth are both inferior to a 50/50 mix of both.

Oh, and I wouldn't even consider a 2bar map sensor, I'd go 3 or 4 bar as you'll want to push up to our around 30psi most likely.

Honestly I'd say save money on the street port and put it towards a better (aquamist) injection system or a motec ecu (m400 or m84). Messing with the porting will change where your powerband is and potentially make your car slower in a street setting. As you (should have) learned from your "multiple porting" thread, porting is really only "needed" so that N/A applications can flow more air. Turbo applications have a turbo, off you want more air flow just turn up the boost!

Oh.... Then update the rest of your car so you're not driving around a piece of shit with a good motor.

Before you know it you can easily spend $20k in your little unicorn hunt (I've spent around 50 over the last 6 years to learn and get where I am now, but then again I haven't cheaped out or cut corners).

Ppl always recommend supra pumps too

Supra pump = Denso pump

Ain't even know lol, I think pretty much everything has been covered, appreciative it

Wouldn't 400-600hp in an FC be pretty much useless without some super fat rear tires and a bunch of supporting mods? (Like a dog box, chromoly half shafts or even a different rear end, etc.) I would be afraid of popping transmission bearings, drive shaft, differential, stub axles, half shafts... If I could even get the power to the ground!

400 WHP, no, 600 flywheel, yes. Probably.

I know a guy who races a 450-ish flywheel horsepower FC. AFAIK he uses a stock transmission? He does have pulled fenders with I think 255 or 265 in the rear, with pretty low offset wheels and spacers. But compared to the price of building an engine in that sort of power range, that's pretty minor. I do think I heard the diff blew up once though... but that might have been someone else's FD. I will have to ask. Apparently the engine (Panspeed) was built for about 500 HP but they tuned it down because it was too hard to drive.

Definitely no problems putting it to the ground though.

I've found that e85 is the answer, and its not so close to rocket science as people make it LOL

This sounds like my setup mine makes 520rwhp at back wheels with gt45 turbo on 20pd boost at 7700rpm

Would do 600+ on 24pd but this sort of power is to much for street driveing.

MY car runs on e85 to water injection aswell but dont use this no more doesen need it.

I use haltech sport 2000
hi6 crane cdi's
92x coils crane
1700 bosch injectors
13b re cosmo motor
um there so much stuff to much to name
Hec 715 trailing coils
Engine is not doweled don't need it
Ceramic power seals
Alloy rad
elc water pump
race plugs
large street port for plates to the max and huge square ports for rotor houseing
rebuild kit mazda
fule lines
rotary guru diff
s4 turbo gearbox


2 044 bosch pumps
1 carter pre pump

List goes on and on and on

Definitely do a street port!

Just found this post by mistake!
Think I am closer to 700 RWHP now than 600 RWHP.....all I need is my clutch to do its job! That's my latest struggle. :nod: