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Old May 11, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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Exclamation RANT: Damn fuel pump screws

I sometimes look at the 2nd gen, and think to myself "for all this engineering, those damned Mazda people messed up on the simplest things". My latest annoyance are the scews that hold the fuel pump assembly onto the tank. For those that don't know, there are 8 (6?) phillips screws that hold the pump flange to the top of the tank. The problem is that after a few years, the scews become permanently attached to the top of the flange by rust. Worse still, the screw heads corrode to the point that it is unlikely a screw driver will be effective! Son of a ! So I've been soaking everything in WD40 for the past few days, and hopefully will be able to remove those screws with Easy Outs to avoid having to drill the heads off....But I doubt it.
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Old May 11, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Sears Craftsman just came out with a screw extractor MADE to remove fasteners just like this.&nbsp I recommended this to someone who had the exact same problem, and they said it worked great.&nbsp The set goes for $20 - "cheap" insurance for problems like this.&nbsp The hardest part is replacing the old screws!

Sears Craftsman part number:&nbsp 52154
http://www.sears.com/craftsman


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Old May 11, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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I used some Three-in-One oil on the heads and they came out no problem. Just my .02.

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Old May 11, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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Ted: Thanks. I will check Sears. Getting new ones is not a problem. I will simply custom make some stainless steel bolts.
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Old May 11, 2002 | 12:09 PM
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wierd, mine popped out without any trouble at all.. I was more worried about loosing them than getting them out.. California car, maybe that's why.

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Old May 11, 2002 | 02:25 PM
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Six Rotors gave me a handfull of nice stainless hex bolts.
He said I may have to hit the of the screws with a chisel, to break the corrosion, and get them turning.
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Old May 11, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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mine came out with no oil mmm west coast cars
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Old May 11, 2002 | 04:49 PM
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Having removed thousands of boogered Phillips screws on aircraft I have long used a diagonal wire cutter plier to remove them. As long as there is enough screw head to grip (hold the pliers vertically, clamp down on each side of the screw head) you can quite easily break them loose.

The Sears tool seems like a good investment. I will purchase one myself ASAP. The dykes will work in a pinch though.
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Old May 11, 2002 | 05:33 PM
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Snapped them of with lots of WD-40. Purchased some 6mm STAINLESS STEEL hex head screws so I never have to worry about this annoyance again!
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Old May 11, 2002 | 06:09 PM
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Originally posted by Scott 89t2
mine came out with no oil mmm west coast cars
Yeah I like being in the South for that reason. No rust
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Old May 11, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Ted I think you mean part # 52154.



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Old May 12, 2002 | 04:36 AM
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Originally posted by ka8legend
Ted I think you mean part # 52154.
Oops, you're right!&nbsp I'm still sick...
I've edited my original post and change the numbers to the correct one.&nbsp Thanx!


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Old May 12, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Don't think pliers will do it...The original heads are too compromised by rust and may just crush. I'll give the heads a few wacks with a chisel, then try those Sears screw removers...
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Aaron Cake
Don't think pliers will do it...The original heads are too compromised by rust and may just crush. I'll give the heads a few wacks with a chisel, then try those Sears screw removers...
Hey Aaron, Any luck removing those damn screws yet. Curious to know considering were In the same climate In all. Had 2 other RX-7 owners here with the same problem as you had or have.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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And here's another 7 owner with the same prob. My level sending unit is toast, but I haven't been able to get it out of the tank cuz the screws are bitched.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 05:17 PM
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I guess everyone here has a problem with the fuel level sender with these cars! I mean It didn't leave the factory that way. I guess they lose their accuracy after a while.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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Use a vise grips, grip it on and start turning. I also had the fuel level sender go to ****. Wow, didn't know that many had the problem.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Yep, I got the screws out. I soaked with WD40 and then used a wire brush and knife blade to clean the heads of the screws. I then found a large Phillips screw driver, set it on each head then gave it a few good wacks with a hammer. I then found it possible to remove all but three screws. The remaining three came out with a little more trouble. Two were removed with the damaged screw removers (go VERY SLOWLY and put A LOT of pressure on the drill), the third was drilled out. I then removed the pump, and using a set of vice grips, grabbed the shaft of the remaining one and was able to twist it out.

The new screws I installed were made of stainless, and covered with anti-seize.

Have fun.
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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Glad to see It kind of worked out alright!
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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I've been avoiding whacking the heads off of the screws cuz I wasn't sure if I'd be able to get the shafts out... So enough of the shaft sticks up? Good. Did you drain your tank b4 doing this? When I go after it I don't want debris falling into the gas...
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 01:17 AM
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look like this.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 08:28 AM
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I can't believe this was worthy of a thread! LOL! A quality pair of Vice-Grips is all I've ever needed. Even in the scrap yards when it looks hopeless:
A shot of PB-Blaster and 10 seconds with the Vice-Grips.

I guess I've been living in the snow for too long.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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I have had the screws on my AE soaking on PB Blaster for well over a month now, I can't even tell what the heads of the screws look like. I've got a big phillips and whacked it a few times with a hammer, and got nothing. I wasn't sure how to get the remaining shafts out if I broke the heads off, so I quit beating on it and drenched it with some more PB Blaster.

This looks brand new compared to mine:


I guess I'll get the wire wheel out, grind away some of the **** and see what I've got under there...

I recently went to Sears and got this:


It's an impact driver, each hammer blow develops 200 ft. lb. of torque.

This might do the job...I guess we shall see.
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 10:06 AM
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Don't know if I want to be hitting a hammer near a gas tank
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Old Sep 3, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by Icemark
Don't know if I want to be hitting a hammer near a gas tank
I'd rather be hitting a hammer near it than grinding on the heads of the screws...

If the hammering doesn' t work, I'll drain & drop the tank and take the grinder to it.
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