So, I e-mailed Atkins rotary, having heard rumors of a price drop for the fuel-injected supercharger kit (which I figured would HAVE to happen eventually), and got this back:


Anyone else think that's crazy? just a little bit?

 

You can find them used for under 2k

 

you know......for the price of a supercharger, you can get a TII engine instead......and other misc items to run a TII

 

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What does it cost from Camden?

 

I believe Camden is Atkin's sister company.

 

I think it makes a lot of sense actually. It's too bad they departed from their idea of swapping out a bare minimum of parts, but it sounds like a much better product now. Also, this will keep away the consumers who are under the misconception that a Roots blower kit is a cheap way to make a lot of boost, and will now focus on consumers who really want the Roots blower. I think that is an excellent price if it includes a custom intake manifold and a new EMS and ignition system.

Camden = Atkins

 

Ohh. Gotcha. I thought that they just supplied the supercharger w/ all the other parts that you would need to throw on it as well.

 

+1

 

Yeah, they don't come up often though, do they? I know I saw one that was basically new for like 900 a few months back on eBay... but where else have you seen them?

 

Evil Aviator- While I understand your point, it takes what was already an expensive kit (maybe not for what it is. but still, 3.5 grand ain't cheap) and makes it all kinds of more expensive than before. Also, read his e-mail; there is some ambiguity as to whether or not it includes the ECU.

 

$3,500 was not bad for the original kit. The the $5,800 price tag is still reasonable for a supercharger kit. See pricing here:
http://www.superchargersonline.com/superchargers.asp

 

I think you're missing what I'm saying; I thought $3500 was a good deal for what they were selling. Read the quote from me again, and you'll see I said it's not expensive for what you get, merely that $3500 is a significant chunk of money.

While I suppose $5800 isn't unreasonable for a roots blower kit, especially with that much included, it's just a lot of money. I just mean to say, I think they would've found a market much easier at $3.5k than at $5.8k

 

They tried the $3.5K market, and apparently their bare bones kit didn't work out as well as intended. It was a nice goal to try and use the stock ECU, AFM, and 460cc fuel injectors. Now that they have priced themselves close to the $6,500 turbo conversion cost, I wonder how their sales will go? Most of the young automotive enthusiasts nowadays are boost-happy, and I don't see how a 6-8psi supercharger kit is going to compete with a 15psi turbo kit, even for those who follow the "instant boost" hype. It has been my experience that those who use the "I just want to be different" reasoning usually think they can tweak the kit with little additional expense, which of course they can't but don't realize it.

The website is still showing $3,649.99.

 

I run the camden, and i do really like it, however it never achieved my hopes. i must say in all fariness it did meet their claims though. My biggest beef is the lack of R&D and reluctance to modify the rotors to a twisted 3 rotor configuration and really bring this thing up to date. This is my most recent thread, notice atkins never replied at all! https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/camden-dyno-poll-693685/ I have tried several combinations with this thing, if anyone wants to know it true potential it is this: great torque! , great throttle response! , great midrange! Awesome for a street driven application. Will pull away from most turbo fc's right from the lights. Blower sounds cool and is very reliable. I recommend it for a "stockport" application on a streetdriven vehicle. Now what else needs to be said, maximum documented hp goal achieved so far has been 210 rwhp, that's it!!! Don't hope for more without nitrous, and a smaller pulley to increase boost won't do it either, been there done that. Last of all, it will kill a stock TII in the 60 foot for sure, but you will always be looking at almost any TII's tail lights in third gear! Just my 2 cents worth after 2 years with the camden, 4 different pulleys and 4 different carbs as well. Future for mine, well i am going to try to blow through the camden and see if I can get the best of both worlds. Long term plan, big turbo, standalone, efi, intercooler and polish the blower so it looks pretty sitting on my shelf in the garage. I hope to fit a turbo under the intake (challenging, will need to be custom, see room under intake in picture). You'll see a pic on an exhasut manifold I feel may work. Turbos are new territory for me, so be nice. I have a volvo intercooler, dizzy is locked, and I already have water/meth. I also run the autometer wideband as well. Before you criticize, it is a test and first only twin charged application, so it will be done on a budget.

 

you can buy a whole new TII with that kinda dough

 

Almost, my opinion to any n/a owners. Sell the n/a and find a nice TII, it's cheaper and genuine.

 

^^^ ding ding ding.

 

Feel free to cast your vote and comment on the camden poll link. https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=693685

 

84stock, Thanks for your input; it's nice to hear from a guy who's has experience with the kit on here.

I heard back from Josh at Atkins; apparently the new cost includes ECU and all the other stuff he listed. While it's still more than I'd spend (I may pick one up used eventually), I now believe it's a good value for what you get. Like Evil said, it's not a cheap way to make lots of boost. That said, I think their unique kit sounds cool, and very complete.

 

I neglected to mention that I have used 3 different engine combinations as well, 6 port stockport, 6 port streetport, and 4 port 1/2 bridge. You "will" need a rebuild with the charger!