This group buy is for the new Pineapple Racing FD airpump elimination pulley kit. The idea of the kit is that it replaces the air pump with an idler pulley, so that the water pump retains good contact with the belt. Normally, by removing the air pump, the belt goes straight from the alternator to the main pulley and barely makes contact with the water pump, risking the belt slipping under load -- not good! This kit gives the water pump almost 180 degrees of contact with the belt, virtually eliminating the possiblility of slipping.






The kit includes the pulley, bracket, bolts and new serpentine belt (everything in the first picture) -- a complete kit. It is guaranteed to fit the stock setup, but should fit aftermarket pulley setups (alt & main pulleys) too; Pineapple just can't guarantee combos that have not been tested.

Retail price is $300 plus shipping, but the group buy price will be $239 including shipping in the continental US. Deadline is tentatively set at April 20th (possibly extended if people need to wait for a paycheck, or whatever). Credit Card orders are accepted. Paypal okay too. Orders will be shipped immediately; not after a preset number of orders come it. All boxed up and ready to go!

Call Pineapple Racing and ask for the Group Buy discount on the FD airpump elimination pulley kit, to order. (503) 233-3878.

 

Can you use this with the Greddy alternator/water pump pulley kit? Or any other kit?

 

Stupid forum!

 

Really stupid forum!

 

As my post said, it should. Basically, anything that uses the stock belt is probably going to work. The provided belt is not the stock size (obviously) but the kit was created as a bolt-on for a stock setup sans airpump. The determining factor is the amount of adjustment available to compensate for differences in pulley size. I don't believe the difference is all that large with aftermarket pulleys, but I can't promise anything since Pineapple Racing hasn't tried every possible combo.

 

this looks good, but I don't get to procrastinate like I enjoy so much.
eric.
Hey whens the GB coming on thier oil pan.

 

not bad but a bit pricey tho. Unorthodox's kit is a bit less, albeit sans belt: http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/Merc...Code=rx7ultraA

However, I like the fact that it snugs in next to the water pump. Can't get a better price on this?

 

It appears the unorthodox one just bolts to the stock airpump bracket. The Pineapple Racing kit eliminates the stock airpump bracket, making room for a (much) larger turbo. I forgot to mention it, but that was one of the primary reasons why Pineapple Racing developed this kit; to give clearance for those monster turbos.

If you added the value of the serpentine belt and shipping to the Unorthodox kit, the prices are pretty similar. Even if you don't have or plan to get a really big single, the Pineapple Racing kit at least cleans up the engine bay by getting rid of the stock airpump bracket. Similar price but the Pineapple Racing setup is a better design!

$239 (including shipping) is the absolute lowest price Pineapple will give me. They have thousands of dollars tied up in the CNC machining of the pulleys and brackets and want to get some of that investment back before they start selling them one-at-a-time at the retail price.

 

Let me amend my previous comments. There is no airpump bracket, per se. But the Unorthodox pulley, being so large would essentially be no improvement in clearance for a big single turbo. Hope that clarifies it.

 

Thousands of dollars my ***!! They don't even have a $1,000.00 tied up in all of that. If they do have "thousands of dollars tied up" they got ripped off! That bracket wouldn't cost any more than 30-50 dollars to machine depending on the quantity. Same goes with the pulleys. The wouldn't have much tied up in the initial programming either. A kid could draw up those brackets in about a whole 10 minutes. With this job being so small, a machine shop would require a minimum amount to be ordered, which would also keep the cost down, while making this worth while to machine.

For that price, you'd be better off doing it yourself by getting a custom length belt, and having the bracket made. You could get ahold of a bearing through MSC that will hold the belt and so on.

If they brought the price down to around $180.00-$200.00, then it'd be somewhat worth it.

I don't mean to be an ***, i'm just speaking the truth. I personally own a machine shop with 4 cnc mills and 2 cnc lathes so I know exactly what it would take to machine the brackets/pulleys, just in case someone thinks i'm bashing/speaking out of my ***.

-Alex

 

I disagree...you are a hell of an ***, in addition to being full of ****. Tell me, mind reader, how many units did Pineapple Racing produce? If you don't know, then HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THE TOTAL INVESTMENT (unit cost X production quantity)?! As for your unit cost assesment, I'm not going to go into all the bloody details but it's higher than your estimate. Besides, Pineapple Racing is a business and would not engineer, manufacture, package and market a product unless there was profit involved. That's true of EVERY business...except perhaps yours? Sure, you could rip off the design and make your own. You might save $50!!! That's also true of many products on the market. What's your time worth? For me to want to save $50, it sure as hell better not take more than an hour of work, or I'll be losing money. If you are just sitting around on your hands, have the know-how and do not wish to support businesses that are actually trying to develop valuable products for these rare vehicles...it might be worth it. But who, afterall, has the skill and motivation to rip-off a design that is not too busy with paying work to do so? You, I guess.

Go **** on someone else's thread.

 

So now do you have any machining experiance to tell me i'm wrong?! Didn't think so. It's not higher than what I said, because I know exactly how easy it would be to make. They are pretty damn stupid if they made "thousands of dollars" worth of sets. So many people already have a similar product, and I don't see that many people with a big enough turbo to create clearance issues.


Engineer what?! Are you ******* kidding me? You could have a 10 year old kid figure this out. There is a profit involved, but they are trying to make to much $$$ off each one. If they would lower the price a bit, it'd be worth it, and more people would buy it. They'd still make a profit, and make their money back faster.

Who the hell said i'd make a "knock off" of their product? I don't do small jobs like this, it's not even worth my time. I said people could go to a local shop and get this done alot cheaper, I never said come to me and i'll do it for ya. You'd be saving more than 50 dollars by the way. If they had that bracket machined on a mill, then once again they are stupid. They could of had it made on a plasma/water jet/laser alot cheaper. The only thing you couldn't do with those machines is the "bung/boss" they have on there, which you don't need in the first place.

Maybe you should calm down, get your head out of your ***, and see the truth in all this. Again, i'm not bashing them as a company or anything else, but their statement of having "thousands of dollars" in this is BS. The ONLY way they have that kind of money in it is if they made ALOT of sets. Again, they could lower the price, get their money back, and make a profit. Either way, it'd be pretty stupid IMO to have a large amount made up, when there isn't alot of these cars running around, and most people already have a similar product to get rid of the air pump.

-Alex

Edit: Heres a few pictures of work I do to show you that I know exactly what i'm talking about.

 

Stop whining, its to expensive BLAH.... Then dont buy it. and make your own.
and lets go on with life. F---ing people have nothing better to do than put down other peoples products. Get a life PLEASE.

Oh may we see a picure of your shop, And not some parts on you grandmothers furniture.

All this **** talking from a kid in his mid 20's GREAT!

 

Wow, you are an *******. He was simply showing some parts he has machined. So hes in his mid 20s? Probably over half of the people on this forum fall into that general age.

 

Okay, I've had enough of the bullshit. The Group Buy is OVER. Now you can whine about how much more of a rip it is to pay retail.

 

wtf? i was just about to order one...can i still get one @ the gb price?

 

Do you really think a "kid" in his mid 20's can do work like that?! Most machine shops can't even begin to make those parts in the first place, much less be in their 20's. When you find a shop with an owner thats in his mid 20's that machines parts for the military, medical field, and Bridgestone/Firestone, please let me know. I'll know it's time to retire at that point!

I'll be more than happy too, can I have your e-mail addy, or do you wan't me to post it up for everyone to see? I'll do it any way you'd like.

I'm not putting down this product at all. I do beleive that it is a great product, all i'm saying is that they DON'T have "thousands of dollars" in it. If you wan't to spend the money on it, go right ahead. I'm sure your money will be well spent. There's just no reason why they can't bring the price down. Nothing more, nothing less.

-Alex

 

I'm not "whining" about the cost. Again, i'm just saying that they don't have "thousands of dollars" in it. I don't understand why you don't see what i'm saying?! Regardless, they could lower the cost some so more people can get in it. There's no reason to end this group buy for that reason. If people wan't to spend their money on this product, they are more than welcome to. I do beleive it's a nice product, the cost is just more than what people are willing to pay. I would try contacting them and telling them that if they lower the cost a few bucks, they'll be more buyers. It just isn't worth the price for added clearance when most people arn't running a large enough turbo to create a problem.

-Alex

 

Again, YES THEY DO! $3,000 actually. If you think they're getting ripped off by their machinist, please submit a competitive bid. Machine up a sample and send it to us for Q evaluation. Lifetime spec on the bearing, please. Go ahead and test it on a few cars while you're at it. Also supply the packaging. And...we'll just have you handle the group buy next time. Given how easy it is, I expect the tested and packaged sample in our hands by, say, the 20th and the total bid to be under $1,000 for a reasonable quanitity (~25 or so, to start) with a delivery date of the 1st of May. Get cracking, we're counting on you!

The GB is closed. I talked to Rob and he agreed that it's not worth doing favors for the Forum if we have to put up with this kind of thread-crapping. We will honor the GB price for anyone calling before 5:00pm Pacific time or emailing before midnight tomorrow. All payment must be made before COB Friday. After that, perhaps we will have an "introductory" price on the web site, but it will NOT be under $249 and shipping will be additional.

 

Blake GB or not, Rob and yourself shouldn't let the opinions of 1-2 people change anything GB wise.

There isn't really much to "put up with", he expressed his opinion, if you left it at that then that would be the end of it. Short and sweet.

 

Yea turbojeff's probably right. I'll still buy one, and an oil pan also. some people's time isnt as important as others.
eric

 

Blake,

Does anyone actually answer the phone @ Pineapple...I keep calling (503) 233-3878 and it just rings and rings.

 

ask rob, he knows his stuff!

 

buy the kit at rotary extreme for 70 bucks and your done.

 

Wotcatalkinbout willis?