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Old May 11, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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0-60 and 60-100 mph Times?

Hey everyone. I was just wondering if anyone has bothered to time their 0-60mph and 60-100mph times with their single turbo setups?

If anyone has, would you mind posting your times and your current setups?
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Old May 11, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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i wonder what mine is it feels fast
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Old May 11, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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standardized performance measure

We have tried to get a thread of "40 to 80 times in 3rd gear" going.
This would let us all compare car performance without being affected by shifting techniques, surface traction and starting technique.

Technique is:

Hold car in 3rd at a steady 35 mph.
Floor the accelerator.
Start watch as speedometer needle passes 40 mph.
Stop watch as speedo needle passes 80.

Let me know

I think stock time is like 6.7 sec
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Old May 11, 2003 | 09:28 PM
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you should be in 2nd at 35 though
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Old May 12, 2003 | 12:28 AM
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40-80 runs are useless for anyone with a big turbo. 60-90 runs are where it's at .

Running 15.5 psi of boost I can do a 3.45 second 60-90 run with 1/4 tank of gas and a passenger. 40-70 runs are about a 1/2 second slower.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 01:23 PM
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Re: standardized performance measure

Originally posted by tmiked
We have tried to get a thread of "40 to 80 times in 3rd gear" going.
This would let us all compare car performance without being affected by shifting techniques, surface traction and starting technique.

Technique is:

Hold car in 3rd at a steady 35 mph.
Floor the accelerator.
Start watch as speedometer needle passes 40 mph.
Stop watch as speedo needle passes 80.

Let me know

I think stock time is like 6.7 sec
I'm actually curious about the 0-60 times myself. Regardless of traction and shifting, I'd still like to know how various single-turbo cars compare to other cars out there on the road from a stoplight, etc.

I started a thread of RX6 0-60s earlier, but not much doing. I think someone actually gave me a number though. Back to searching...

Anyway, running at 7psi with not great hookup and poor driving skills , I ran a 5.7 on the gtech. I'm sitting at 14psi now and ~380rwhp. Traction is still an issue though.

Anyway, I'm curious to see about 0-60 times and I might have to break out the gtech and give it a run again with the upped boost, just for kicks...

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Old May 12, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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0 - 60

Remember, thecar with the highest 0-60 time may NOT be the one that wins the 0-60 drag race.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Re: 0 - 60

Originally posted by tmiked
Remember, thecar with the highest 0-60 time may NOT be the one that wins the 0-60 drag race.

True. The car with the lowest 0-60 would probably be the winner.

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Old May 12, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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All things considered though, a single turbo setup should have faster times than a stock RX-7 setup, correct. Granted I know this depends upon turbo selection and boost. But lets say a GT35/40 running moderate boost. Would you predict 0-60 performance to be better than the stock twin turbo setup?
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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I dynoed at 442rwhp @15psi on pump gas with T78 and I went out with the G-tech (I know that it is not completly accurate) But with true street tires (kumho ecsta supra 712's) My car ran 4.11 0-60 with some good tirespin. Im sure with slicks it would be in the 3's but what fun is it if you cant do it everytime an unsuspecting vette or something pulls up beside you and you have your street tires on!!!!
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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Re: 0 - 60

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Remember, thecar with the highest 0-60 time may NOT be the one that wins the 0-60 drag race.

Boy, I screwed that one up didnt I ?????


the FASTEST 0-60 car wont necessarily win a drag race. Time to distance is what matters.
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Old May 12, 2003 | 09:32 PM
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0 - 60

0 - 60 depends so much on starting technique, clutch slip, how slick the spot in the road where you happen to start from is, shift point, etc. Thats why 40 -80 in 3rd gear can be used to give an accurate horsepower measure instead of just a luck of the draw. The old Mazda standard was 40-70 but all of us can rev to 80 and it gives that much more consistency and measures top end better.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 07:08 AM
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True. The car with the lowest 0-60 would probably be the winner.
God bless sarcasm.
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Re: 0 - 60

Originally posted by tmiked
0 - 60 depends so much on starting technique, clutch slip, how slick the spot in the road where you happen to start from is, shift point, etc. Thats why 40 -80 in 3rd gear can be used to give an accurate horsepower measure instead of just a luck of the draw. The old Mazda standard was 40-70 but all of us can rev to 80 and it gives that much more consistency and measures top end better.
Oh I'm totally hearing you. But, there's something to be said for knowing (roughly) what your 0-60 is, so when some guy in a new 350Z comes up and says my car can do 0-60 in 5.4 seconds (fill in your own more subtle dialog), you can reply with, "Hey, that's pretty darn good. On an average day I can do it in 4.11 seconds (nice time for street tires there 7thheaven)."

Just bragging rights, and realizing what you're likely to toast off the line, so you can not waste time with the small fish, and prepare yourself psychologically for the sure loss.

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p.s. I was just razzin' you 'bout the highest 0-60 thing, just in case you thought I was serious.

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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:10 AM
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Well you were serious.... 'cuz I F'ed Up

Bragging 1/4 mile times in the way to go, , or even 1/8 times


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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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the best 0-60 time isnt going to always be the fastest or most powerfull cars....its alot like the first 60 feet of drag racing, its all in the launch and the stick. You cant really compare the power of 2 cars and see what turbo is best based on 0-60.

But I think 70-100 would be a perfect comparison. Thats the sweet spot of 3rd gear and it will be in everyones powerband. This will give you a better picture of what different turbos and engine set ups are capable of.

If you really want a good comparison though do 110-140 in 4th gear......its a little more dangerous though.....you might would want someone holding the stop watch and watching the speedo for you haha

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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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Oh yea, there used to be a website where you would put in your 60 foot time and 1/8 mile et and mph and it would give you and approx 0-60 time....I'll see if I can find it

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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by SPOautos
the best 0-60 time isnt going to always be the fastest or most powerfull cars....its alot like the first 60 feet of drag racing, its all in the launch and the stick. You cant really compare the power of 2 cars and see what turbo is best based on 0-60.

But I think 70-100 would be a perfect comparison. Thats the sweet spot of 3rd gear and it will be in everyones powerband. This will give you a better picture of what different turbos and engine set ups are capable of.

If you really want a good comparison though do 110-140 in 4th gear......its a little more dangerous though.....you might would want someone holding the stop watch and watching the speedo for you haha

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Kinda depends on the application, doesn't it? I'd be lucky to find a place here that I can actually attain that 110-140 mark without killing myself and others...unless it's fairly late at night. Plus, my turbo is pretty good down low (which is why I got it), whereas there are others that don't reach their full potential until 4K or even 5K on a pull. 3rd gear is definitely the sweet spot though. It just seems like 0-60 might BE a reasonable measurement if you're using a smaller turbo with less lag, not having to dump the clutch to get into the powerband, and therefore (in theory anyway) being able to hook up better.

Take this all with a grain of salt though, as I just plain don't know what I'm talking about. I'm here to learn!
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Old May 13, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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I really dont see why this is so hard to understand for you guys. People like to see what there cars will do in comparison to the Viper they just read about in Motor Trend. I dont remember ever seeing a 110-140 time for a Viper or S2000. I understand that 1/4 mile and 1/8th mile are more dependent on the power of the car but it is a rare occasion (unless it is aranged) that you pull up to a stoplight and race a full 1/4 mile and 1/8th mile is rarely posted in any magazine test. Its nice to know that if you spend money on a single turbo that if driven properly it can toast a viper from one light to the next. (Maybe thats just me ) Thanks unuttage I was quite proud of that time
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Old May 13, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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maybe a 50 - 80 or 90 in 3rd would be good.. just hold it at 50 and then floor it..

should be good for measureing turbo lag and whatnot
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Old May 13, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Actually there were some test that showed the times of a Viper, Z06 and I believe a Porsche all the way up to 140. It showed like 0-40, 0-60, 60-100, 100-120, 120-140 or something along those lines. Also, amost every mag I've ever seen shows 1/4 miles.

0-60 is all up to the driver and rubber. A 500rwhp car and run a 0-60 of 5 seconds on street tires or probably 3 seconds on slicks. It just depends.

I still think my first suggestion of 70-100 is the best comparison if you want to comare agaist eachother.

If you want to compare your car against a mag car then check out the 1/8 or 1/4 mile. No mag does 1/8 but you can get your ET and MPH and use some conversions to tell you what it would have been in the 1/4. You can compare your mph to thier mph and that should give you a good idea of who has the best hp / weight ratio

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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:00 PM
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for what its worth....

i saw the manolis post a 60-90 time

my car with a gouged intermediate housing (had to reuse it when i rebuilt the motor last time - need to replace it) and at 7,250 ft ASL which makes the turbo spool about 1000 rpm later, i get a 60-90 time of 3.4 seconds on average at 12 psi.

the car doesnt feel as strong as it did when the housing was still good at was in dallas instead of up here in CO. i cant wait get some time and money to rebuild it better and clean up some other problem areas.

manolis - how much power are you making at 15.5 psi??
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Old May 13, 2003 | 11:14 PM
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My guess on power is 335 at the ground... need to do some more tuning!
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Old May 14, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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manic, i'm with you...I have no intention of ever going 110 on the freeway...but I'll race from stop light to stop light all day long. I'm leaning towards better twins as I think they will do a better job of getting me where I want to go. Maybe supercharger
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Old May 15, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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When I was talking about the mags never posting times I was refering to 1/8th mile. I compleatly screwed it up when I was typing though. ( I was in a hurry) But anyways a good single turbo car should be very close to or exceding 120mph by the end of the 1/4 and it is not very often that you are going to race from a dead stop to 120mph on the street(although that should only be about a 12 second race)
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