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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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car won't start?!?!

My '86 N/A won't start. I have spark and fuel, but the thing just keeps turning and won't start up. I'm not sure about compression, but from the sound of the engine, Im getting the normal pffft pffft pffft sound. I just don't see how I could lose compression by driving lightly.

I have had flooding problems before, could it be extremely flooded? Any help would be great, don't want to lose my FC.
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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hey check dis, I also have a 86 rx and it likes to flood alot. What u should be able to do is turn ur key to acc, hold the pedal down to the floor for about 5sec. then crank it till it starts. If it doesn't start after 10sec. quit so u don't possibly damage the starter. Try it a few times and it should crank over. Once u do get it started be sure to rev the engine to at least 3grand for a couple of seconds, u will probably see som nice . Good luck!
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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hey check dis, I also have a 86 rx and it likes to flood alot. What u should be able to do is turn ur key to acc, hold the pedal down to the floor for about 5sec. then crank it till it starts. If it doesn't start after 10sec. quit so u don't possibly damage the starter. Try it a few times and it should crank over. Once u do get it started be sure to rev the engine to at least 3grand for a couple of seconds, u will probably see som nice . Good luck!
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Old Feb 14, 2002 | 10:21 PM
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hey check dis, I also have a 86 rx and it likes to flood alot. What u should be able to do is turn ur key to acc, hold the pedal down to the floor for about 5sec. then crank it till it starts. If it doesn't start after 10sec. quit so u don't possibly damage the starter. Try it a few times and it should crank over. Once u do get it started be sure to rev the engine to at least 3grand for a couple of seconds, u will probably see som nice medium blue smoke comin out when u get it running, but should clear up, if it doesn't u may have a more serious problem. Good luck!
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Old Feb 15, 2002 | 08:26 AM
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There is a good possibility its really flooded...The ATF trick may help you, thats how I got my new motor started. But using a fuel cutoff switch would probably be a better way to go for the long run.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 04:50 PM
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my car won't start either i think its really flooded how would i unflood it at home is there anyway or would i have to take it to the mazda guy and get him to do it is there any easy way i can unflood mine myself
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 07:33 PM
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If its lightly flooded, all you have to do is pull the EGI INJ fuse, I think, from the engine bay fuse box. Crank over the engine for a couple seconds, then go back and put the fuse back in. It should start up after that.
Theres a more complicated procedure for more severe flooding, but I can't think of it offhand. Just search for "unflooding" or something like that.

If flooding is your problem then consider putting in a fuel cut switch or if you're not too good with electronics then you could buy the fuel pressure reliever from Mazdatrix to stop the flooding.
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Old Feb 17, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Installing the fuel cut-off isnt as hard as you may think. All you have to do is clip one wire, and add a switch. I will post instructions and pics if you want them...

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:08 AM
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yes please do post instructions when would i use this switch
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:42 AM
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I gotta wait for daylight to take the pics, but wiring it is very easy... You have a fuel pump relay, situated on the right hand side of your steering column...It has yellow coloring on it. All you need to do is splice into the black wire you will see which one when I post the pics. I put my switch into the center console, there is a good ground bolt that sits below the console that you can use. Basically you get a 3-pole switch. 2 poles are for the fuel relay, and one pole is for ground.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:52 AM
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Black wire with white stripe, not solid black.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 02:56 AM
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Thanks! I keep forgetting that there is more then one black wire..

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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I would love to see the pics Im having the same prob

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 11:46 AM
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I will post the pics soon...Just let me finish my coffee!!!........

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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I would love to see the pics Im having the same prob

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Look for the plug that has a black/ white stripe wire that is alot bigger than all the others on the same plug. That's it.
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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I am thinking about putting together a Word document that has pics and instructions...Seems like this question gets asked alot. Anyways. I am gonna go snap pics of my wiring and switches so these guys can have an idea of whats involved..

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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:06 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:41 PM
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Pics...

Okay, its kinda hard to get pics of the relay itself...But here it is. The circle is the black wire with the white stripe. You have to dyke it apart, and this isnt fun cause its cramped under the dash. Then you have to splice 2 wires that are long enough to reach the switch. So here is the first pic
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:43 PM
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Here is just after the relay..You see the one wire clearly. I pulled out the wiring so you could see...
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Here it is
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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Going under the center console...
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Old Feb 18, 2002 | 12:51 PM
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Here is the wiring...The lower one is the fuel cutoff...I used 3 black wires cause I ran out of red and black. 2 wires are for the relay, and one is for ground...It even lights up too!!! NEETO!!.....
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Top View...I put red for my fan and blue for fuel..Dont ask me why...

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And I know my car is dirty!!!!
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