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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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Exclamation ok everyone who did a auto to 5-speed swap

i have a 90 vert and the damn auto is dieing on me
i am ready to do a 5 speed conversion i will have acess to a lift and all the tools i will need, these r the thing i have found doing a search so far:
- tranny
-Starter
-Driveshaft
-Halfshafts
-clutch slave cylinder
-clutch master cylinder
-Pedal assembly
-flywheel
-clutch

is there anything i am missing????
i was thinking about just buying a junk car between 89-92, would this be a cheaper way to do this???'
and also for all of you who have done this i have 4 more ?'s for you:
1: what about the interior?? will i need any of that becides the shift boot (and all the little things that go around it)
2: for all you people who have done this did u have any problems so far with it and how many miles have u put on your car since you have done it?
3: cruise control: will it still work??? will i have to do anything to get it to work
4 : because my car is a vert will i have to get a junk car that is a vert also?


any and all info will be apreaciated
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:38 PM
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You don't need the halfshafts.
Cruise should not be affected.
The trans mount is different, I believe.
You may have to bolt in (or weld in) one from the 5 speed.
Vert and coupe parts are the same for this swap.
Good Luck!!
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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the auto mount sits further back. you will have to either weld the 5-speed mounting tabs onto the body of your car or modify the auto crossmember to work with the 5-speed(the easier way). the latter still will require minor welding but much easier.
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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ok but what about reliabilaty???? this is my daily driver and i will be putting nearly 150 miles a day on to go to school and work
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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This is a simple swap.
Reliability? As good as your assembly.
The only questionable area is how well you weld the trans mount to your chassis.
Everything else just duplicates the factory install.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:40 AM
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You don't have to weld if you don't really want to. You could simply use angle iron (as hypntyz does) to go from the old AT mount to the 5speed, this holds quite sturdy. Just ask hypntyz7, or check out his site at http://hypntyz.rx7life.com. I've done it myself, with the angle iron drilled and cut to length for me by hyp.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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alright thanks for all the info
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Old May 24, 2002 | 03:27 AM
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I have had no problems with reliability. I had 170k on my auto tranny when it packed up so I went 5 speed I have put about 27k on it so far. No issues at all. Tranny mount is not near the issue it sounds to be, its a cake walk. I suggest using the rubber shock/strut big rubber things on either side of your bolts to cut vibration a bit. I liked the feel much better after I added the rubbber jobbers.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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You need a shifter and the boot. You will also need a clutch line, preferably stainless steel braided. There is also a little bit of rewiring you need to do.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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yeah i think the speedometer cable is longer and shorter one of them... best bet to find out before u get there..
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Old May 24, 2002 | 08:57 AM
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Speedo cable is longer on the auto so it is not a problem. If you went from manual to auto you would need to swap the cable, and also have your head checked.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 11:39 AM
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There is also a little bit of rewiring you need to do.
can u tell me what rewiring i have to do?? and how to do it
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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Im not sure on the rewiring. I had KD Rotary do my swap before I realized that it is possible to do it yourself. Dave at KDR explained to me what had to be rewired but I forget. But there is a couple wires on the auto that will not be used on the manual and a couple need to be relinked to different colored wires. If all of the wires were the same color on the manual as on the auto it would probably be just a plug-and-play opperation but I don't think that is the case. A good look over the factory service manual should answer all of your wiring questions.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 12:53 PM
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Old May 24, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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thanks hypntyz7
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Old May 24, 2002 | 01:40 PM
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hey can the instument pannel be swaped aswell??
i kinda want the one with the 8000 redline on it
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Old May 25, 2002 | 12:26 AM
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well i am just gonna find one that is wreck and take all the parts off of it and buy a new clutch if the one in it is not in good shape which it probly won't but i am hopping it will so i can save some cash
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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well I have to ask but I don't tink anyone will know. why does the auto have a shorter redline???? Is the port different??
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 12:48 PM
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i think its because thats all the tranny can handle rpm wise
(correcet me if i am wrong)
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 01:06 PM
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maybe so but what hold you back??? a rev limiter or a smaller port?? what keeps it from pulling? or do you think it will gain 1000 rpm just from a tranny swap?
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Old Jun 16, 2002 | 01:09 PM
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The ports and engines are identical as are the rev limiters(91/9200). The 7krpm redline on AT 89-91s is a visual warning only. The tranny does not like to spin that fast, so they dont want you going any farther, even though the engine could definitely handle it. But, if you wanted to, and powershifted it, it would rev out just like a 5sp. IT would feel so damn slow in doing so because teh AT is geared shitty and probably slips if it is original
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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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update : auto is out, fly wheel is off, what do i do with the counter weight ???(the big *** bolt is also off it was quite easy with a impack) leave it on? take it off? (i never realized how small our engines were till i took the fly wheel off)
also i am not to familure with the clutch stuff , i am getting the flywheel i bought resurfaced, the clutch is used and was said to be good , should i just go ahead and buy a new one?? if so where can i get one for a good price? (money is running low)

once agian thanks for all the help

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Old Oct 28, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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never mind the counter weight Q . i looked at hypntyz7's write up on it . its gotta go.


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Old Mar 29, 2003 | 02:33 AM
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I need help i have done a tranny swap and i can get the car to spray fuel the engine ran fine in the car it came out off but i can get it to run also the warning buzzer wont stop and the meter fuse blows for a reason i can find please help this is ******* thing is killing me i have owned many gen2 and this has to be the worse problems i have had with one
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