GB Interest: FC & FB Bi-xenon HID PROJECTOR - SakeBomb Garage
 

Dan and I have been recieving tons of PM's, emails, and posts regarding the possibility of producing stock fitting bi-xenon projectors for the FC and FB. We are currently only making FD projectors, but would consider possibly making similar projector setups for the other rx's. This is NOT a group-buy thread but rather an interest thread.

These lights would use the same hardware and electronics as our FD kits (we have selected ONLY the highest quality components for the FD kit). This includes clear optics for a sharp beam pattern and cutoff, philips OEM 3800K bulbs, 35w Greddy ballasts, plug and play wiring harness requiring no modifications to wiring. This is **NOT** a $75 H4 HID kit... these is a complete housing modified to accept an HID projector.

If these do happen the price will not be cheap. I want to say that flat out as the only HID "kits" available sell for 75 bucks. These H4 "kits" are cheap garbage that will blind other drivers and NOT improve your lighting on the road. I'm happy to discuss the H4 kits in this thread, and dispel all of the rumors and misinformation circulating regarding them. If you are looking for this type of H4 kit, please head elsewhere... this is NOT an H4 retrofit kit! We will only be using the highest quality parts and there is a ton of work involved with making this kit work for the FC or FB. These two housing types will require even more extensive modifications compared to the FD housings. The minimum estimate for pricing will be same as the FD HID's $750.00 and possibly higher considering how much more needs to be done to these compared to the FD lights (already very labor intensive). That's the bad news... the good news is that you will have the very best in lighting available for your FC or FB with no modifications and stock appearance and functionality. :nod:


Please view the beginning of the FD thread for more details and examples of light output. -> https://www.rx7club.com/vendor-classifieds-276/gb-bi-xenon-hid-projector-sakebomb-garage-867943/ :icon_tup:


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Beam Pattern

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Catching a little of the blue/purple flicker



**Please only add your name if you are SERIOUS about your interest in a pair of these headlights. If our "gauge of interest" is overly inflated with tire kickers or wishful thinkers it may harm the possibility of making a GB like this a reality. So please think before adding your name to show your interest. (please note FC or FB) Thank you! -Heath

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I have seen these kits in person, both on and off the car. I must say they are absolutely beautiful. Simply THE BEST option for our cars. You can't beat the pop-ups, but the stock lighting is dangerously pathetic. Personally, I have a plug & play non-projector HID kit, but I plan on upgrading to one of these projector kits.

Excellent quality, looks great, and you can't beat the light brightness/pattern that it produces. Get in line guys...you need this kit.

Couldn't agree with you more. I'm interested.

1. Kerebrus - FB

I'll get some pics up of the FB lights in a few days... I'm still working on them :)

Guys understand that pricing around 750 is a STEAL of a price! I am on a few HID retrofit forums and know a few of the big guns and they charge no less than 1000 for their service. These def look good and have a nice, sharp cutoff.

I MAY be interested in a set for the FB depending on when it is available. ( I am in on the FD set already and waiting)

im intrested in just the projector if i can still use the bulbs i have (i already have hid's)

price?

just saw the $750, nvm

No you cant use your current bulbs... these are *real* HID's ;) hence the price. This is not a $75 toy for a civic :D

This is the output of the FD projector we built... the FC/FB prototypes are the same
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and a slideshow I made to explain the difference between H4 hid kits and actual projector HID's

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Thumbs up for a quality product. Don't stand down on price.

interested in this, i recently bought a 400 dollar 20 watt hid flashlight, and my friend has a 2400 dollar 50 watt flashlight... must make my headlights brighter than my flashlight lol

What flashlight costs 2400?! lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q0DlAEc7-g

polarion ph50.. 50 watt HID flashlight...

jason statham is going to have it in his new movie the mechanic

http://www.tacticalleds.com/product-p/polarion-ph50.htm

sorry about the thread jacking

a standard 50 watt ballast with standard HID bulb should have similar output... the 2400 must be for really nice optics ? or maybe its just a name brand thing. Its damn bright though.

I'll get pics of the FB prototypes up shortly... im still working on them. -Heath
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Yeah but that flashlight is TINY! That's definitely sick! That's gotta be blinding

the flashlight is expensive because the ballast is extremely advanced and small, also the whole flashlight itself is just barely bigger than my 20watt.. and has the same run time. also the color temp is quite nice, not as blue as most HIDs

Count Me in. FC btw.

BurntOrangeT2

Do you have an idea of when these would be ready for the FC? Hopefully before the year ends. Also where can I read more info on the design of the headlights? My main curiosity is where I can find new bulbs if the ones I buy burn out.

I missed out on the FD GB anyway i can get in on some?

Bulbs are stock OEM standard d2s philips bulbs...
http://www.kbcarstuff.com/v/vspfiles...-D2S-4K-2T.jpg
used on every stock HID light setup from nearly every car manufacturer. Whether they will be done in a matter of months, by years end, or never really depends on the interest in them. If there is not much interest they wont happen unfortunately. -Heath

FB / Miata mockup (dont mind the shrouds not being lined up... they are not mounted yet as we are still experimenting with different options)

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What donor projectors are you planning on using?
Ones with the Motorized cutoff for high and low beam?

What warranty are you planning on providing?

I'm interested. If these are a legitimate 6054 headlight conversion, I may want a set for both my FC and my truck.

On a side note, I hate the fact that this forum is sponsored by a fuckoff group that markets those illegal H4 conversions.

https://www.rx7club.com/members/hidextra-com-133164/

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Thank you for answering my question. I am def interested in these as I hate driving my car at night b/c if there are no light posts on the road, I can't see more than 10ft in front of me.

Yea, I'm tired of my illegal H4 conversion that blinds people. :lol:

i was already looking at the cheapo ebay projector housings for my fb but seeing these i would gladly pay the the extra money for a true HiD housing and a nice light kit

These will be the same as the FD kits we currently make... fxr projectors with optically clear lenses. These do in fact have a solenoid actuated cutoff for high/low and the included harness allows them to function seamlessly with the stock h4 wiring (though you need to hook up the additional 2 grounds and + lead). Yeah the illegal H4 conversion kits are what prompted Dan and I to start this project for our own cars. Its considerably more expensive and is extremely labor intensive to create each kit... but these lights are lightyears beyond anything currently available. The H4 Kits are toys and its sad how many people have bought into the fad.
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I will start saving money up for this pretty soon if the production looks like it will get off the ground.

Just to confirm, this is a proper bi-xenon kit, right? I saw in the slideshow on page 1 that it appeared to be a HID low-beam and Halogen high-beam, but on page 2 it says otherwise. If it's a proper Bi-xenon kit, I'm definitely game for it!

If Im reading the post correctly, they are using infiniti FX Bi xenon projectors with an upgraded lens (clearer lense for sharper, more colorful cutoff).

Im interested if I can just have the housings, I allready have hella 35w ballasts, and phillips d2s bulbs... Let me know.

Robx7fcna -FC

Correct, Infiniti FX projectors are about the most compact bi-xenon you can work with when space is tight (pop-up headlights). I assume the lenses are from The Retrofit Source.

in my previous post, I forgot to mention that I would like a FC set

Its a proper bi-xenon... I dont know how this gif disappeared but I'll post it again (no halogen allowed here :lol: ) http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/w...c4-719e-9f.gif

Yeah if this happens we can definitely work something out... just shoot me a PM if/when the time comes :icon_tup:

sweet, thanks!

So, how many people do we need and when is the deadline???

Will these fit any other 6054 (FC-Rectangle) or 6024 (FB-Round) vehicles or are they going to be specific to the RX-7?

There may be other markets for these units if they are more universal... Jeeps, Miata, AE86, trucks...

There's not really a deadline. Basically the deal is that we need to create special molds to construct shrouds which would seal off the back side of the projector (these lights would actually be much more involved than the FD ones we currently make). If we get something like 15-20 people per lamp type then I would make up the molds, but so far the response has been lukewarm at best (though our only exposure thus far has been in this thread).

The economy is bad, there are $75 Chinese "fake" H4 hid kits so people think they can get HID lighting for next to nothing (mis-information which we are combating), and most people dont want to drop 750-800+ on their FC/FB/miata etc. We can do it... but only if a significant number of people actually want it and are willing to follow through. People see the price tag and think "oh but I can get "HID's" for 1/10th that price and they say the light is great" LOL... people just dont know better. The FD HID GB exploded when people saw what we were offering as setups like this would typically sell for EASILY over $1,000


Nope they should basically fit everything (assuming there is enough clearance for the extra length of the projector)

What about Specs on the ballast and lamp housing regarding water resistance and vibration. Considering a second set for my truck which sees offroad duty.

Speaking of fitting other vehicles, you might consider putting an ad on s-series.org. First-gen S10's and S10 Blazers use 6054's and there seems to be a good following there too.

Admins, please don't remove the link, just trying to help this group buy get off the ground by spreading the word to another group of enthusiasts that could REALLY use these lights too. S10/Blazer headlights suck!

1. Kerebrus - FB
2. Whitey85mtu - FB.


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EDIT: EVERYONE put the link to this thread in your sig so we can get the proper amount of interest so we can improve our lighting.

I know there are lots of vehicles both these lights would fit. Tons infact... nearly everything up to the early 90's basically. We don't make much off of these at all, and we are a very small business. To start "marketing" them to all of the various car clubs would cost a ton of advertising money and 10x more time than Dan and I have to manage it. While I would "like" to sell 1000 sets of lights, we would need to hire multiple people full time to make them and wouldnt be able to pay them for the man hours it would take as we make so little off each set.

On a spectrum from "doing friends a favor" to "running a profitable business" we are closer to the friends side. To make decent proffit off of these lights they really should be priced over $1K. We're just doing this to get our name out for other products that we make (oil cooler kits, brake lines, etc) and to do the rx7 community a service so they can see well at night (cause I couldn't before I installed these lights).

Durability: HID's are great for off road as there is no filament to break from vibration (ionized xenon gas). As far as OUR housings go, we do our best to make them as robust as possible to vibration and moisture combining 3 different mounting techniques for the projectors. I think if they can make it through transit with fedex they will survive in any environment :D :icon_tup:



^ whitey85mtu We'll make them just for the pic of the retriever. I gotta post some of the sakebomb mascot
:)

1. Kerebrus - FB
2. Whitey85mtu - FB
3. Thunkrd - FB

Please do.

I'm curious, is there any way that the FD kits would fit in the FB pop-ups, with the FD shrouds? IDK how the FD shrouds are attached, but if they would fit, that would allow us FB guys that are willing to cough up the money to get the FD kit if there isn't enough interest for the FB kit.

totally different shape.. they wont fit. I even brought a set out to my miata to check... no dice

1. Kerebrus - FB
2. Whitey85mtu - FB
3. Thunkrd - FB
4. Fonzi581- FC

1.) Kerebrus - FB
2.) Whitey85mtu - FB
3.) Thunkrd - FB
4.) Fonzi581- FC
5.) Pele - FC / Universal 6054 (Two sets)

1.) Kerebrus - FB
2.) Whitey85mtu - FB
3.) Thunkrd - FB
4.) Fonzi581- FC
5.) Pele - FC / Universal 6054 (Two sets)
6.) Akagis_White_Comet - FC

1.) Kerebrus - FB
2.) Whitey85mtu - FB
3.) Thunkrd - FB
4.) BurntOrangeT2 - FC
5.) Fonzi581- FC
6.) Pele - FC / Universal 6054 (Two sets)
7.) Akagis_White_Comet - FC


^Had to :sadwavey:

Although I am not sure I would buy this any time soon since I plan on going single turbo (saving up money and parts for it atm), but I would be interested. I would have to admit I'm one of those who bought those $75 HID kits to just try out....needless to say they were barely better than expected....and I had low expectations. If you guys had a kit like this for the FD out long ago I would've jumped on it before my turbos went bad.

I don't know how soon I could afford these but I would love to get a set for the FC. Just gonna have to keep an eye on this see where it goes and try to set aside some money in addition to getting everything else on my car up to par.