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Old 12-26-04, 10:30 AM
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cool Kim! Unfortunatly, I can't attach/link that sig I made. Forum doesn't let me!?
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cool Kim! Unfortunatly, I can't attach/link that sig I made. Forum doesn't let me!?
postwhores not allowed to have big sigs ? :P
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he he Bart = Owned

Im no postwhore so therefore I can have a sig.
Think about who won the race now, Bart
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Take a look at this web site! If you don't know it! Maybe you already know that one...
http://www.rotaryengineillustrated.com/
It has a great animation about the rotary engine. More to come on this web site in a near future, I think so.
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Originally Posted by Kim
he he Bart = Owned

Im no postwhore so therefore I can have a sig.
Think about who won the race now, Bart
I haven't been postwhoring that much lately, doing plenty of other things nowadays: working in the garden, spending time with my daughter, playing GT3 and DTM 2 on PS2, building one of my Caterhams JPE (on 1/12, unfortunatly, a 1/1 was slightly out of reach...) etc.
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Did you get a camera for christmas, Bart
We need more pics of your models.
ATM im putting an AC Schnitzer M635 CSi together, damn I love those old touringcars.
The FD R1 is assembled and awaiting the body to be painted
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Originally Posted by Kim
Did you get a camera for christmas, Bart
We need more pics of your models.
ATM im putting an AC Schnitzer M635 CSi together, damn I love those old touringcars.
The FD R1 is assembled and awaiting the body to be painted
didn't get a camera, but there's one in the house just until the end of februari, since winter is modeling time, I might be able to post some pics.
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Hi all RX7 owners
Could you please tell me what’s the fuel consumption of the RX7, model from around 1986
On many French forum, I can read this car has a big fuel consumption and many people avoid to own this car. I can read it has a fragile engine and the repair are also very difficult. Maybe, they don’t exactly what they are talk about, because they don’t own such a car? What do you think?
A French RX7 is for sale, I’m waiting some pictures, 86000kms and 4600 euros. White body and red interior, just a few scratches on the fender.
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Pfff 4600, really , that must be a T II, otherwise I would do it, 4600 for a non turbo.
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My old non turbo, and currently rebuild with 11000km on it, had 200000+ km on it before it died. Knowing the former owner that is pretty impressive as he abused the **** out of it, before that it was a company car for some lawyer.
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Originally Posted by Kim
My old non turbo, and currently rebuild with 11000km on it, had 200000+ km on it before it died. Knowing the former owner that is pretty impressive as he abused the **** out of it, before that it was a company car for some lawyer.
It had some hard times.. *s*..

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Originally Posted by Mireck 12A
Pfff 4600, really , that must be a T II, otherwise I would do it, 4600 for a non turbo.
No, it's not a TII. It's from 1986, take a look at the wheel, I never saw one of theses on 86'. Do you think the price is too high
The owner still don't send me any picture, but I found one on the web site, where the car is for sale, take a look:

I don't know yet, if I give him a call for more informations
When I see the price of the RX7 from Germany, there is a big difference. Nevertheless, they don't have French paper for registration, which mean a lot of things to do to get them
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Officially, importing/exporting cars within the EU isn't that hard. Some exceptions though. Belgium is easy: if you have all German papers, it'll cost you about 100-150€ more to register a German car in comparison to a Belgian one. Don't know about France, but it's worth checking!
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100-150 euro's ? That's all? Don't they have things like taxes in Belgium ?
In the Netherlands the tax for importing a T II is like 1400 euro's, and for a FD about 1800 euro's

even when importing a car from EU countries.

When you buy the car , you don't pay taxes so taxes will be enforced in the countrie of registration. I can't imagine Belgium has a exeption for that because of european laws.
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No, it's not a TII. It's from 1986, take a look at the wheel, I never saw one of theses on 86'. Do you think the price is too high
The owner still don't send me any picture, but I found one on the web site, where the car is for sale, take a look:

I don't know yet, if I give him a call for more informations
When I see the price of the RX7 from Germany, there is a big difference. Nevertheless, they don't have French paper for registration, which mean a lot of things to do to get them
The steel rimms look like the shipping rimms, car's where shipped with steel rimms, and the alu-ones where mounted after arrival i thought.

In the Netherlands you an get a NA 1986-1989 for about 2K euro's in this condition.

I dunno about French import taxes and regulations, so it might be cheaper to buy the french car.
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Thank you to all for these informations.
I'll have to check how much I would pay to register a car from Germany or CZ for example, to France.
You're right, on mobile.de I can find a lot of 86' for about 2000€. Of course, it's cheaper than in France, but for some car, registration are expensive, that's why I must check that point before doing anything!
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Mireck, I believe you are mistaken. Within EU, sales tax is due at the location of the sale. No other sales tax (in any form) will be due in the country where you import the car because the double taxation treaties that exist between (most) EU countries. As for import taxes, since the car stays within the EU and import tax will have been paid at the time of original import, no more import tax is due when you bring the car to your own country. This is because of the free traffic of goods, services and people between EU countries.
Actually, Bart was still exaggerating with the price you have to pay to import a car into Belgium. There is a fee due, but this is just for a form that you need to get the car through import SVA. The cost is less than half a euro. What then follows depends on the age of the car. For cars with European type approval, you just need to get the car through a technical check that every second hand car has to go through to get registered. For cars with national type approvals (pre '96) a special pre-approval is necessary and the total cost for this is <100€. I kwow this quite well as I imported a German car from Holland (sic!) last year.
Things may be different in Holland, but if an additional tax is due this should be with some other excuse than import taxation.
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Mireck, I believe you are mistaken. Within EU, sales tax is due at the location of the sale. No other sales tax (in any form) will be due in the country where you import the car because the double taxation treaties that exist between (most) EU countries. As for import taxes, since the car stays within the EU and import tax will have been paid at the time of original import, no more import tax is due when you bring the car to your own country. This is because of the free traffic of goods, services and people between EU countries.
Actually, Bart was still exaggerating with the price you have to pay to import a car into Belgium. There is a fee due, but this is just for a form that you need to get the car through import SVA. The cost is less than half a euro. What then follows depends on the age of the car. For cars with European type approval, you just need to get the car through a technical check that every second hand car has to go through to get registered. For cars with national type approvals (pre '96) a special pre-approval is necessary and the total cost for this is <100€. I kwow this quite well as I imported a German car from Holland (sic!) last year.
Things may be different in Holland, but if an additional tax is due this should be with some other excuse than import taxation.
You should tell that to the dutch goverment
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Originally Posted by Mireck 12A
The steel rimms look like the shipping rimms, car's where shipped with steel rimms, and the alu-ones where mounted after arrival i thought.

In the Netherlands you an get a NA 1986-1989 for about 2K euro's in this condition.

I dunno about French import taxes and regulations, so it might be cheaper to buy the french car.
Those rims look like the rims om US cars, I've seen cars with those there.. It might be a US car?!

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I just need to do this.......
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..... to get my 500 posts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's all.. back to the subject.............................

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Originally Posted by Magnus Berglund
Those rims look like the rims om US cars, I've seen cars with those there.. It might be a US car?!

// magnus
no, those are typical european steelies, haven`t seen them anywhere else than in europe and on some official mazda media photos
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Originally Posted by Mireck 12A
You should tell that to the dutch goverment
You are completely wrong Mireck. Dutch governement does not have different import laws at all. They simply made a way around the EU ones! This is what happens when you import a second hand car from one EU country to another: you pay the car, get the paperwork done (in Belgium: 100-150€) and then register. This is no different in Holland. BUT what comes next is! Now to register the car, you need to pay "BIV" in Belgium. This is a tax to register a license plate, and can vary from 62€ to 5000€, depending on age and power of the car. A new or maximum 6 months old FD (new would mean not registered before) would be 5000€, but once it's 15years (not yet possible, but I'm just giving an example) it would be only 62€. This will be payed wether the car 1st, 2nd or 211th hand. Every time the car is sold you pay this. When I imported a German FD for a friend, the bill was 1250€, just BIV.
In Holland, you need to pay a simular tax (don't now the name anymore) ONLY for the first time the car is registered (in the Netherlands that is). That means a 2nd hand car doesn't have to pay. But a 2nd hand one bought in a foreign country does. (never payed in Holland before) THIS IS NOT IMPORT TAX, even if many people refer to it as such. Import taxes are illegal, and therefor some governements have made a way around it by making new laws: in Belgium for every car, in Holland only for cars not being registered there before.


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