craigny1

I see a lot of posts that this ecu is better then that one. I understand that if you have it and it works you may think it is the best.. Hell I have a 93 RX7 and its the best car ever made(as far as Iam concerned).. What do you guys think the all around best ECU is and why..Or do you think they are pretty much the same just in a different rapper? Which one gives you the most options.? which one is the most user freindly?

Thank you,
Craig K
drivinhard.com

Cosmo Donk

I will chime in right now that this has been covered a MILLION times. Sorry dude, not trying to be a weenie but it is just a flame war asking to be started. Please browse around in these forums and I am sure you will find plenty of threads about this.

There is no "best" EMS. Period. It is what YOU need.

My 2 rupies.

Evil Aviator

Cosmo Donk is right, this will just end up a flame war.

They all pretty much do the same thing. It's not the most options that matters, its which EMS has the most options that you want. Since this is a personal preference, you will need to determine that yourself. Some things you may consider are support, price, resolution, installation and tuning difficulty based on your point of view and experience, datalogging, boost control, map storage, wideband or narrowband O2 sensor support, and various bells and whistles like turbo timer and rev limiter.

craigny1

I see what you guys are saying. After looking around I see alot of people asking the same question.. What I have come up with comparing the Apex Power FC and the Microtech MTX12.
Is I think the PFC is the way to go..

1. PFC is basicly plug and play MTX 12 is not. Really do not want to cut up my harness..
2. PFC has 20 load points per map MTX is 17
3. PFC runs in closed loop. Which for a street car I think will help
4. with the Datalogit you can data log with the PFC
5. PFC has more fuel and ignition maps.
It seems that for a car that will be mainly a street car the PFC will be able to be more fine tuned...

It seems that the everything I read about the Microtech it is more towards a race car application.
What do you guys think..

Thank you,
Craig Kacmarczyk
www.drivinhard.com

Cosmo Donk

1. Yes, this is why the PFC is nice.
2. Uh, sure I haven't looked into them so I will take your word.
3. Yup, it's nice but I can't believe that the MTX12 still can't run in closed loop.
4. I also can't believe that the MTX12 can't datalog.
5. What do you mean by this? The number of different maps you can have for your car? Like one for 93 **** gas and one for 116? Every good EMS can do that they just don't advertise it. All you do is creat more maps. You can have as many as you can fit on your hard drive

They are all capable. If you really want you can get an old Haltech F9 into the 10's if you try hard enough

craigny1

You can data log with the Microtech, I am just saying that with the datalogit you can as well with the PFC. where if you just use the Power FC comander you can not.. Also what I mean buy more fuel maps and load points is. that threw out the rpm range you will be able to you will be able to tune more or less fuel. Hard for me to explain the way my tunner explained it to me.... And no the micro tech can not run in closed loop....

Thank you,
Craig K
WWW.DRIVINHARD.COM

Cosmo Donk

Gotcha. I know what you mean by load points but I was curious about the maps.

Well, good luck and tell us if you need something

Turbo Timmy

I think anyone and everyone would agree that Motec is the best. Whether or not you can afford it is the question.

10sec rx7

Your comparing a old Microtech with the PFC,

1. Microtech have a plug and play for the FD, i have sold a few to the US,
2. the microtech has boost maps to 20psi, what does the PFC have?? i can get you a microtech with boost maps to 40psi if you want??
3. bollicks, closed loop means nothing when the ecu is tuned correctly
4. microtech LT series has better data logging than most ecus, no need for expansive secondary software to data log.
5. the LT series has a lot more fuel and ignation maps than the old MT series, the LT series is a full 3d ecu, load points every 500rpm, from 0-9000, same with ignition,

microtech can store 4 maps on the handset, can be swapped over in a matter of seconds, no need to carry a laptop to swap them over,

craigny1

Hey tensecrx7

The mtx12 is avaiable in plug and play??????????????????????????????



Thank you,
Craig K
www.drivinhard.com

10sec rx7

The LT8 is avaliable in plug and play for the FD, there are a few over there now working like a treat!

they no longer make the MT/MTX series ecu's

the LT8 has a lot more mapping points compared to the MTX12

Dale

RETed

MoTeC.
Best features, most support, best reliability, best upgrade ability, COST the most (of course).


-Ted

enzo250

Autronic....

Same features(same designer), good support, Great reliability,

COST HALF of Motec

Evil Aviator

There must have been some changes at Autronic that I don't know about if Autronic now has the same features as Motec.

Which of the following do I have incorrect?

Autronic: 16b 16Mhz chip
Motec: 32b 33Mhz chip

Autronic: 50Hz datalogging
Motec: 200Hz datalogging

Autronic: 16x32 fuel & ignition mapping
Motec: 21x40 fuel & ignition mapping

Also, does SM2 V 1.49 run split timing on a 3-rotor engine like Motec M800 Version 200L?