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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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propably you know from Keith that im thinking to go with the Tec3r . ( r-85... etc is here ...Athens )
Give me some informations about this ecu : Can i see a/f ratio via lap-top , and can i run with launch control ?
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 07:15 AM
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Yes it has launch control.
Yes the wideband function is available and can be displayed via the lap top or standard display. The wide band can be closed loop or just diplayed, in closed loop you there are many settings to determine how much authority the wideband readings have over your map. I can add the wideband funtion for about $300 wich is just the cost of the wideband sensor and control unit. The unit can be set up via the software to except any wideband if you already own one. I use this function on both my race car and street cars and it works great. I actually run it in closed loop running down the track as since we travel so much it helps with different elevations etc etc then I go back and update the corrections.

For people that are really into capturing data check out www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com they can pic up the data stream from the tec 3 and display it all on a touch screen. This will diplay all you sensors including wideband rpm etc etc just by pluging into the com port. The d200 also has the ability to program the tec without the laptop.

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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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No i dont have a wideband .
I like to have one . Can i put the sensor in the down pipe , where is now the stock lamda sensor ?
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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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yes when you purchased the kit it came with a o2 bung ready to go.
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Old Apr 4, 2005 | 02:38 PM
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Yes it has launch control.
Yes the wideband function is available and can be displayed via the lap top or standard display. The wide band can be closed loop or just diplayed, in closed loop you there are many settings to determine how much authority the wideband readings have over your map. I can add the wideband funtion for about $300 wich is just the cost of the wideband sensor and control unit. The unit can be set up via the software to except any wideband if you already own one. I use this function on both my race car and street cars and it works great. I actually run it in closed loop running down the track as since we travel so much it helps with different elevations etc etc then I go back and update the corrections.

For people that are really into capturing data check out www.powertraincontrolsolutions.com they can pic up the data stream from the tec 3 and display it all on a touch screen. This will diplay all you sensors including wideband rpm etc etc just by pluging into the com port. The d200 also has the ability to program the tec without the laptop.

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Please explain a little about the D200 . This unit connect with Tec3r , and works ....like the commander of the PFC ?
I know IS NOT the same but ...something like that ?
Can i see EVERYTHING from the D200 ?
Its still nessesary the WB sensor ? This one connected with the D200 ?
Many questions !!! Sorry
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
LOL, there IS a TEC3 section on this forum, this thread is in it, people have been talking about it, and you are one of them.

Where is the tec3 section? I looked above where Haltech, wolf, aem is etc and it is not there?

Where else would it be?

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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yes it is similar to the commander only 1000 times more powerfull. Yes you will still need the wideband densor and contol unit. The d200 will record and display any sensor that is running with your tec via the com port no need for additional wiring. You also have the option of adding additional sensors that it can data log and display. The d200 is similar to having a motec with the dash.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
Where is the tec3 section? I looked above where Haltech, wolf, aem is etc and it is not there?

Where else would it be?

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It's right here, lol. This is called the "Engine Management Forum". The last time I checked, the TEC3 was a type of engine management.
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Aviator
It's right here, lol. This is called the "Engine Management Forum". The last time I checked, the TEC3 was a type of engine management.
I pm'd you last year with the request and you were right, there were not enough guys running a TEC3.

This year is different, there are a lot of guys running a TEC3 and the posts are up.

Listen, you know you don't want me to get Ernie involved

If you got one for a "superafc" then there should be one for a TEC3?

Anthony

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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 10:29 PM
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I second the vote and know I could rally more troops
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Old Apr 5, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Ok dee, you have sold me on the tec3.I'm on my way to your house with a bag full of money .Just kidding I'll see you at the races this weekend with it..........Jimmyjam
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 06:31 AM
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I also second the motion, there has been a large increase in tec three users in the rotary community, we should try to accomadate!!!
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthonyNYC
If you got one for a "superafc" then there should be one for a TEC3?
OK, I will ask for a TEC3 forum just as soon as there are as many people on this forum running a TEC3 as there are running an S-AFC. In the meantime, I am sure that the bandwith of the Engine Management Forum can handle the overwhelming amount of TEC3 threads.
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Old Apr 6, 2005 | 09:31 PM
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im interested too.
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Old Apr 7, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Maybe there is no traffic due to there not being a forum Oh well I tried. I will prob just update my web site and add a tec three forum as the haltech people are too threatened by are mear existance
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rotor_dee
To help clear things up a little factory inductive type coils IE GM charge there coils with only 4 amps. Electromotive charge there's inductive coils with 9 amps. If you try to use a off the shelf inductive type coil it will fail.
Dee, how do you know that? Is electromotive the only source to get the coils from-I would be surprised if that is the case given the limited number of tec3s they produce.
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Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:14 PM
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It is my understanding that Electromotive manufactures the coils themselves.

Chalk one more for the tecIIIr, dee lets get my **** running!
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Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:47 AM
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I know that the coils are charged with 9 amps and factory gm stuff is charged with 4 it is fact and can easily be measured wich I did do. As for the coils yes Electromotive does have there windings on the coils speifically designed to handle the the 9amp charge. I have tried many other GM style coils that were single post to trie to pretty my installation only to have failure due to the coils not handleing the charge. The coils that actually did almost stand up to the test were out of a 2002 audi I believe but they eventually failed eventually too and were a little expensive.

And chris for future reference I never post things unless I have tried and tested it myself that is why I only have 200 posts in five years But I know the lawyer in you wants proof

Bobby you are in luck my car is sitting in the trailer waiting for the next race. If that is not a testamant to reliablility, repeatability of the equipment on the car I don't know what is.
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Old Apr 25, 2005 | 02:31 AM
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FD trailing coils will work with the TEC3 also, with no problems. It was electromotive that suggested it to us to use them.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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How are they working so far on yours. Not sure I would back that recomendation.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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I also agree that there should be an Electromotive thread on this forum as well.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by rotor_dee
How are they working so far on yours. Not sure I would back that recomendation.

Its not my car, just good friends who I help tune and work on some. But, like I said before, when we where ordering everything from Electromotive at the time and told them what car it was going on. The tech went on how badass FD trailing coils are how this is the way he would set the car up and we did.

Only problem we had was when we where using stock NGK wires (that had some miles on it) the TEC3 would shut down mid run on the dyno and fire back up. Had us scratching our heads till Monday on it, when we call Electromotive and was told to check our plug wires due to the fact that the TEC3 doesn't really like electrical interference. Put a set of Magnacor 8.5s on and never had a problem again.

I have to say, I am impressed with the tech support and having an office in the states is big plus.

I was in the middle of E6X install on FC, before I had to leave the country, I am about 90% complete in it at this time. After hearing all the E6X horrors I am think very hard about selling it and getting TEC3R.
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Old Apr 26, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Good to hear you got that type of support I have heard complaints in the past. Keep an eye on those coils as I had used the same in the past only to see them fail over time.
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Old Apr 27, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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I might be a different case, on the tech support issue, my friend was the largest Electromotive dealer in the "import" market a few years ago, and when I call them I was calling as a shop "employee." I can't remember having to pay to have ECU fix ether out that shop, if their was fee it was very much. After reading some of the threads on people who had to send their ECUs back to Haltech and pay 200+ bucks on top of international shipping just scares me.
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Old Apr 30, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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From what I've seen the TEC3 is one of the most amazing puters out there... Wyum still has his MoTeC and thats obviously as good as they get, but the TEC's are really cool and easy to use... I think Wolf is falling behind a bit, even I own one there still really nice computers for the 900-1000 dollar range.
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