AEM for a 20B
04-20-02, 06:07 PM
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Re: Re: AEM for a 20B
Originally posted by to_slow
Ok . Do not I mean do not buy shiet from Tom .I have like 20 people that got ripped of by him and mest up there cars . I spoke with a local girl that has a fd and she got her turbos rebuild and a clutch put in by TOM .she paid like 4000 $ now that a rip of .After 4k her car still ran like shiet . So my word of advice stay away from Tom !!
Ok . Do not I mean do not buy shiet from Tom .I have like 20 people that got ripped of by him and mest up there cars . I spoke with a local girl that has a fd and she got her turbos rebuild and a clutch put in by TOM .she paid like 4000 $ now that a rip of .After 4k her car still ran like shiet . So my word of advice stay away from Tom !!
-Ted
04-20-02, 06:30 PM
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Re: I will try to answer your question
Originally posted by Bruno
Normal aspirated engines will run a higher HP running the L & T together. thats a fact.
At low RPM the engine emissions will be lower with a 15 degree split.
Now Lets say you are running 28 psi of boost and you have the L & T together.
My question to you is how accrurate is your PMS to fire the plugs together? You certanly dont what the T fire 1 or 2 degrees before L.
When ones try to get big power out of a rotary engine, more than 16 psi it is esencial to have the ignition timing at maximun allow by gasoline. If you dyno your engine at 16 psi with the L& T together you will get a higher egt reading and less hp than if have a split.
Dont you think that your turbo will last longer with a lower egt?
Normal aspirated engines will run a higher HP running the L & T together. thats a fact.
At low RPM the engine emissions will be lower with a 15 degree split.
Now Lets say you are running 28 psi of boost and you have the L & T together.
My question to you is how accrurate is your PMS to fire the plugs together? You certanly dont what the T fire 1 or 2 degrees before L.
When ones try to get big power out of a rotary engine, more than 16 psi it is esencial to have the ignition timing at maximun allow by gasoline. If you dyno your engine at 16 psi with the L& T together you will get a higher egt reading and less hp than if have a split.
Dont you think that your turbo will last longer with a lower egt?
When you fire T&L together, flame speed is higher, pressure rize is faster, combustion is MORE complete, ALL of this means that by the time the rotor sweps around to let the stuff out THAT IT WILL BE MORE COMPLETLY BURNT & the EGT WILL BE LOWER
EGT is lower with twin point ignition if ALL factors like a/f ratio are kept the same, combustion is more complete, burns faster, as indicated by BMEP increase and measured flame speed flame front analysis, ALL of this lower the EGT if the relationship between air and fuel is kept the same and power out put is not significantly increased, as EGT is influenced by MANY factors.
BUT there is one thing that is in NO DOUBT, that T&L together is far superior for power.........This was know back in the 60s and was published in great detail by NSU, the ONLY reason they relied upon single plug ignition was due to the complexity of a twin pug ignition system (back in the day).
The situation is EXACTLY the same for forced induction engines, I know this from my own experiences....though this may not be enough evidence for some people ?
04-20-02, 06:37 PM
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Hey RICE RACING, you burst a vein yet?  I think you need a drink...
I think all of these guys should go find that silver hardcover Keiichi Yamamoto "Rotary Engine" book and some SAE papers on the rotary engine before they go posting in here...
-Ted
I think all of these guys should go find that silver hardcover Keiichi Yamamoto "Rotary Engine" book and some SAE papers on the rotary engine before they go posting in here...
-Ted
04-20-02, 06:42 PM
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Re: I will try to answer your question
Originally posted by Bruno
Normal aspirated engines will run a higher HP running the L & T together. thats a fact.
At low RPM the engine emissions will be lower with a 15 degree split.
Now Lets say you are running 28 psi of boost and you have the L & T together.
My question to you is how accrurate is your PMS to fire the plugs together? You certanly dont what the T fire 1 or 2 degrees before L.
When ones try to get big power out of a rotary engine, more than 16 psi it is esencial to have the ignition timing at maximun allow by gasoline. If you dyno your engine at 16 psi with the L& T together you will get a higher egt reading and less hp than if have a split.
Dont you think that your turbo will last longer with a lower egt?
Normal aspirated engines will run a higher HP running the L & T together. thats a fact.
At low RPM the engine emissions will be lower with a 15 degree split.
Now Lets say you are running 28 psi of boost and you have the L & T together.
My question to you is how accrurate is your PMS to fire the plugs together? You certanly dont what the T fire 1 or 2 degrees before L.
When ones try to get big power out of a rotary engine, more than 16 psi it is esencial to have the ignition timing at maximun allow by gasoline. If you dyno your engine at 16 psi with the L& T together you will get a higher egt reading and less hp than if have a split.
Dont you think that your turbo will last longer with a lower egt?
So if the ECU fires at 11.5 or 12.2 deg before TDC, it will trigger both T&L at the same time ALWAYS.
Other systems may have problems with ignition resolution when using seperate channels to fire the leading, if the difference is SIGNIFICANT (I would say more than 2+deg) then It would cause a problem) with the T firing well before the L plug.
Feeding the ignitors or CDIs with signal that is divided from the ECU is the way to ensure that there will be no resolution problem, this is the way I do it any way.
Been running my rotaries for well over 5 years, in HIGH boost, high power on pump gas with NO PROBLEM this way.
04-20-02, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
Hey RICE RACING, you burst a vein yet?  I think you need a drink...
I think all of these guys should go find that silver hardcover Keiichi Yamamoto "Rotary Engine" book and some SAE papers on the rotary engine before they go posting in here...
-Ted
Hey RICE RACING, you burst a vein yet?  I think you need a drink...
I think all of these guys should go find that silver hardcover Keiichi Yamamoto "Rotary Engine" book and some SAE papers on the rotary engine before they go posting in here...
-Ted
And I love giving so called "racing" experts the ***** (no names mentioned) when they are trying to promote their own comercial interests
04-20-02, 11:49 PM
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Re: Re: I will try to answer your question
Originally posted by RICE RACING
This is a non truth put out by people who are not Engineers, period !
When you fire T&L together, flame speed is higher, pressure rize is faster, combustion is MORE complete, ALL of this means that by the time the rotor sweps around to let the stuff out THAT IT WILL BE MORE COMPLETLY BURNT & the EGT WILL BE LOWER
EGT is lower with twin point ignition if ALL factors like a/f ratio are kept the same, combustion is more complete, burns faster, as indicated by BMEP increase and measured flame speed flame front analysis, ALL of this lower the EGT if the relationship between air and fuel is kept the same and power out put is not significantly increased, as EGT is influenced by MANY factors.
BUT there is one thing that is in NO DOUBT, that T&L together is far superior for power.........This was know back in the 60s and was published in great detail by NSU, the ONLY reason they relied upon single plug ignition was due to the complexity of a twin pug ignition system (back in the day).
The situation is EXACTLY the same for forced induction engines, I know this from my own experiences....though this may not be enough evidence for some people ?
This is a non truth put out by people who are not Engineers, period !
When you fire T&L together, flame speed is higher, pressure rize is faster, combustion is MORE complete, ALL of this means that by the time the rotor sweps around to let the stuff out THAT IT WILL BE MORE COMPLETLY BURNT & the EGT WILL BE LOWER
EGT is lower with twin point ignition if ALL factors like a/f ratio are kept the same, combustion is more complete, burns faster, as indicated by BMEP increase and measured flame speed flame front analysis, ALL of this lower the EGT if the relationship between air and fuel is kept the same and power out put is not significantly increased, as EGT is influenced by MANY factors.
BUT there is one thing that is in NO DOUBT, that T&L together is far superior for power.........This was know back in the 60s and was published in great detail by NSU, the ONLY reason they relied upon single plug ignition was due to the complexity of a twin pug ignition system (back in the day).
The situation is EXACTLY the same for forced induction engines, I know this from my own experiences....though this may not be enough evidence for some people ?
I ran my engine with no split and the dyno showed a dived after 6000 rpm at 16 psi, when I ran a split I gain HP at the very same rpm,where I lost it withot it.
How can you explain it?
I never said I have the truth, but I am looking for it.
Thats one of the reason for being on this forum.
I bet you would like to have a pms that can manage split for 3 rotors, so that you have the ability to decide whether or not to use split.
If the engine runs better at 28psi without split wonderfull (who cares why).
If the engine runs better with split wonderfull (who cares why).
My main concerns is to have the best pms there is so I am in control of split or not to split thats all.
Can anyone suggest a good pms.
By the way EFI systems came out with a new pms call Xtreme EFI any thoughts on that?
regards to all
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04-21-02, 12:41 AM
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I agree, we ALWAYS find more power with split. Mazda didn't put it there for something to fill the space. The whole reason it is there is to control the burn, and prevent detonation.
Jason.
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04-21-02, 05:47 AM
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Originally posted by Black680hp7
I agree, we ALWAYS find more power with split. Mazda didn't put it there for something to fill the space. The whole reason it is there is to control the burn, and prevent detonation.
Jason.
I agree, we ALWAYS find more power with split. Mazda didn't put it there for something to fill the space. The whole reason it is there is to control the burn, and prevent detonation.
Jason.
It is theoretically impossible to get a faster pressure rise than you can achieve with a T&L firing together under high load and mid to high engine speed...THIS ALWAYS results in more average combustion chamber pressure over the cycle wich gives more power, end of story.
split = emissions
NO SPLIT = Steeper pressure rise, Faster combustion, Higher thermal efficiency, Lower exhaust gas temperature
This is what does happen in the chamber, not some personal opinion.
04-21-02, 05:51 AM
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Re: Re: Re: I will try to answer your question
Originally posted by Bruno
Heys guys I am just telling you what the dyno shows,
I ran my engine with no split and the dyno showed a dived after 6000 rpm at 16 psi, when I ran a split I gain HP at the very same rpm,where I lost it withot it.
How can you explain it?
I never said I have the truth, but I am looking for it.
Thats one of the reason for being on this forum.
I bet you would like to have a pms that can manage split for 3 rotors, so that you have the ability to decide whether or not to use split.
If the engine runs better at 28psi without split wonderfull (who cares why).
If the engine runs better with split wonderfull (who cares why).
My main concerns is to have the best pms there is so I am in control of split or not to split thats all.
Can anyone suggest a good pms.
By the way EFI systems came out with a new pms call Xtreme EFI any thoughts on that?
regards to all
Bruno
Heys guys I am just telling you what the dyno shows,
I ran my engine with no split and the dyno showed a dived after 6000 rpm at 16 psi, when I ran a split I gain HP at the very same rpm,where I lost it withot it.
How can you explain it?
I never said I have the truth, but I am looking for it.
Thats one of the reason for being on this forum.
I bet you would like to have a pms that can manage split for 3 rotors, so that you have the ability to decide whether or not to use split.
If the engine runs better at 28psi without split wonderfull (who cares why).
If the engine runs better with split wonderfull (who cares why).
My main concerns is to have the best pms there is so I am in control of split or not to split thats all.
Can anyone suggest a good pms.
By the way EFI systems came out with a new pms call Xtreme EFI any thoughts on that?
regards to all
Bruno
support, specs, and your choice of what set up you want to run.
You pick at the end of the day, but it had been used is higher spec than "other" alternatives and there is SUPPORT...HEAPS OF IT !
04-21-02, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by RICE RACING
Do your research as to why it is used by Mazda and when the split goes to zero, then come talk
It is theoretically impossible to get a faster pressure rise than you can achieve with a T&L firing together under high load and mid to high engine speed...THIS ALWAYS results in more average combustion chamber pressure over the cycle wich gives more power, end of story.
split = emissions
NO SPLIT = Steeper pressure rise, Faster combustion, Higher thermal efficiency, Lower exhaust gas temperature
This is what does happen in the chamber, not some
personal opinion.
Do your research as to why it is used by Mazda and when the split goes to zero, then come talk
It is theoretically impossible to get a faster pressure rise than you can achieve with a T&L firing together under high load and mid to high engine speed...THIS ALWAYS results in more average combustion chamber pressure over the cycle wich gives more power, end of story.
split = emissions
NO SPLIT = Steeper pressure rise, Faster combustion, Higher thermal efficiency, Lower exhaust gas temperature
This is what does happen in the chamber, not some
personal opinion.
Even if you fire the L & T at 0 degrees the MSV will be different cause the L & T are not equally distance from
TDC.
At higher rpm which plug do you think will have the the fastest MSV. You figure it out and then be can talk.
04-21-02, 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by RICE RACING
I do not know why we bother sometimes, actually I do, it's because we want people to know the TRUTH
I do not know why we bother sometimes, actually I do, it's because we want people to know the TRUTH
Evil after dealing with these people:
04-21-02, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by Bruno
There are two separate squish velocities L & T therefore two different MSV.
Even if you fire the L & T at 0 degrees the MSV will be different cause the L & T are not equally distance from
TDC.
At higher rpm which plug do you think will have the the fastest MSV. You figure it out and then be can talk.
There are two separate squish velocities L & T therefore two different MSV.
Even if you fire the L & T at 0 degrees the MSV will be different cause the L & T are not equally distance from
TDC.
At higher rpm which plug do you think will have the the fastest MSV. You figure it out and then be can talk.
Flame kernal growth is impeded alot through the T plug due to the available gas transfer through the 4mm transfer hole which conects the plug chamber throught to the combustion chamber. It is not possible to follow anything that you are saying?
In a symetrical combustion recess like in the engines we use firing the T&L together at a specific timming taking into account flame growth speed form initial start has show MANY MANY times that starting T&L together burns the MOST charge in the pocket at higher engine speeds and loads and results in MORE of the charge being burned and converted to WORK. Go look at REAL research on this subject, THEN come and talk
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Hey guys, while we are all in the mood, I dont give a continental why but, I have won national class and championship races with my tune and my knowledge, I split the timing and my dyno tells me that it is the right thing to do and I have the results at the track. From what I know mazda has never installed or manufactured a sensor that tells the rotors that they are circuit or drag racing, no matter what ABCD factors or co efficients we are all bullshitting about. So power and efficiency are what I am looking at and no bullshitting university lecturer can tell me why my rotary will or will not make power.
Did you know that theory thought that he passed wind only to find that he **** his pants. So unless you can give me results do not bore me with your theory because results are factual and true.
For people that are fighting for uncommercial unbiased opinions, you sure mention Autronics(autistics) and Haltec(helltec) alot. You want an experienced opinion, well that is it. All I was trying to do was to help Bruno with a ECU that I did not sell to him. Get off the **** people, either help or build your own ego somewhere else. My ego is fed by my trophy cabinet not by my PC.
Regards- Anthony.
Q. Why am I so upset?
A. Because I have spent $k's learning and 20 years working to tell you what I know, and others hide behind the net knowing that they will never be found out for the lack of results that they do not have but sound just as good, on threads like this!!!!
Did you know that theory thought that he passed wind only to find that he **** his pants. So unless you can give me results do not bore me with your theory because results are factual and true.
For people that are fighting for uncommercial unbiased opinions, you sure mention Autronics(autistics) and Haltec(helltec) alot. You want an experienced opinion, well that is it. All I was trying to do was to help Bruno with a ECU that I did not sell to him. Get off the **** people, either help or build your own ego somewhere else. My ego is fed by my trophy cabinet not by my PC.
Regards- Anthony.
Q. Why am I so upset?
A. Because I have spent $k's learning and 20 years working to tell you what I know, and others hide behind the net knowing that they will never be found out for the lack of results that they do not have but sound just as good, on threads like this!!!!
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Before you can write this yourself, yes I am f#@king arrogant because I CAN BE, I HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT !!!!
Anytime you care to argue, meet me at the track, I will embarass you with any one of my customers cars.
Circuit or drag !!!
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
Anytime you care to argue, meet me at the track, I will embarass you with any one of my customers cars.
Circuit or drag !!!
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
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Concrats! you have now ensured that another person that regardless of what your opinion is, has been able to help on these forums, is no longer interested. I will keep my experiences to myself and remember you when I meet you on the track, if you ever intend to go to one because I attend drag and circuit meeting all over OZ, USA and Puerto Rico and have never had the pleasure of your company. Perhaps you spent to much time in class.
Regards- Anthony
Regards- Anthony
04-22-02, 03:03 AM
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When I decreased the trail split timing on my FC, I gained more power throughout the rpm band when I dynoed in Dallas.
I'd have to go back through my dyno sheets, but I recall I gained 50 hp on the top end.
J
I'd have to go back through my dyno sheets, but I recall I gained 50 hp on the top end.
J
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it's gotta be said....
For so called professionals some ppls posts on here are totally disgraceful!
This is very off putting for customers including potential customers....ie it gives a customer an insight to what the business might treat a customer like when going back for a warranty claim or follow up service!
I know jack **** and hope to learn more from here.
Why can't u guys just leave ur egos at home and discuss this stuff sensibly so we can all learn? Hey you might even gain some customers rather than scaring them off.
End lecture
Cheers
Andrew
For so called professionals some ppls posts on here are totally disgraceful!
This is very off putting for customers including potential customers....ie it gives a customer an insight to what the business might treat a customer like when going back for a warranty claim or follow up service!
I know jack **** and hope to learn more from here.
Why can't u guys just leave ur egos at home and discuss this stuff sensibly so we can all learn? Hey you might even gain some customers rather than scaring them off.
End lecture
Cheers
Andrew
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Point taken! Andrew,
To you and all others interested in learning and not slagging I do apologise for my outburst and hope that I have not offended you. I do believe in what I post and only intended to answer questions with my experience. It is just that I had tried a truce and found continuous attacks frustrating. I am passionate about what I do and very thorough with my findings. However you will understand if you do not see much input.
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
To you and all others interested in learning and not slagging I do apologise for my outburst and hope that I have not offended you. I do believe in what I post and only intended to answer questions with my experience. It is just that I had tried a truce and found continuous attacks frustrating. I am passionate about what I do and very thorough with my findings. However you will understand if you do not see much input.
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
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What I’m about to say may sound incredibly naďve and perhaps it is….
I would consider myself to be the sort of average joe customer (cunstomer) that you guys would get? I do some simple work myself and get professionals to do stuff too. I don’t mind paying a bit more for a good job. But I also wouldn’t walk into the workshop waving around $100,000 asking u to build me an 8 sec rocket. But if u do get a lot of these u prolly don’t need to listen to ppl like me…
I will not goto workshop A just b/cos they were 1st on race day. I will goto workshop A if firstly I believe they know what they’re doing and secondly my mate went there an received good service and a good result blah blah.
If I then see workshop A receiving advise online from workshop B I’m still gonna be with workshop A!!! I wont think they’re morons just b/cos they’re open to ideas and listening to another workshop’s opinion…
If you blokes could all just be civil and cool then you might all benefit personally. As will the customers and you’ll actually look good in front of the customers J
Remember the internet can make you look good fast….it can also trash ur reputation fast….ur choice!
Please note I’m not directing this at only one person!!!!!!!!!
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I would consider myself to be the sort of average joe customer (cunstomer) that you guys would get? I do some simple work myself and get professionals to do stuff too. I don’t mind paying a bit more for a good job. But I also wouldn’t walk into the workshop waving around $100,000 asking u to build me an 8 sec rocket. But if u do get a lot of these u prolly don’t need to listen to ppl like me…
I will not goto workshop A just b/cos they were 1st on race day. I will goto workshop A if firstly I believe they know what they’re doing and secondly my mate went there an received good service and a good result blah blah.
If I then see workshop A receiving advise online from workshop B I’m still gonna be with workshop A!!! I wont think they’re morons just b/cos they’re open to ideas and listening to another workshop’s opinion…
If you blokes could all just be civil and cool then you might all benefit personally. As will the customers and you’ll actually look good in front of the customers J
Remember the internet can make you look good fast….it can also trash ur reputation fast….ur choice!
Please note I’m not directing this at only one person!!!!!!!!!
End rant session
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Anthony.
Please don't take what those other ********* say to heart.I look forward to seeing you on the forum more often as I would much rather listen to advice from someone that actually goes to the race track and learns what works and what doesn't than from a couple of guys who read text books for half the day and spend the other half posting replies on the internet.It doesn't leave much time to be playing with rotary engines end learning about them first hand.
I've watched your cars over the years in all types of racing & read many articles in magazines about your own personal cars as well as customers cars and you are right.....you have earnt the right to be arrogant.
Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to get involved in the technical arguments on this forum so I am forced to see things from a results only point of view.Anthony has more of them here in Australia than most other shops combined.Congratulations.......
Living in Sydney I am lucky to be able to attend almost every street meet that is on and not once have I ever seen or heard of Rice Racing.He is only 2 hours away from us so if he is as clever as he says he is then maybe he will turn up there soon.He sure has some catching up to do.
As for RETed.....I hope you have done a few more cars than your 13.4 second rx7 that is on your web site.Like i said earlier,I'm forced to see things from a results only point of view and 13 second quarters are not what I'd consider to be in the same class as Anthony.
I wish I lived closer to Melbourne as I would love to have Anthony spinning the spanners on my car.
Rice Racing...How about doing what your name says and go do some RACING.Playing on the computer doesn't count.
And for what it's worth.I run a haltech on my 13b turbo rx3 and and not biased towards any brand of computer or the guy selling it.Plenty of my friends have microtech's on their rotors and all run just as well as my haltech when they are in the hands of the right tuner.And in some cases better than some haltech's that I've seen getting around Sydney.
Please don't take what those other ********* say to heart.I look forward to seeing you on the forum more often as I would much rather listen to advice from someone that actually goes to the race track and learns what works and what doesn't than from a couple of guys who read text books for half the day and spend the other half posting replies on the internet.It doesn't leave much time to be playing with rotary engines end learning about them first hand.
I've watched your cars over the years in all types of racing & read many articles in magazines about your own personal cars as well as customers cars and you are right.....you have earnt the right to be arrogant.
Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to get involved in the technical arguments on this forum so I am forced to see things from a results only point of view.Anthony has more of them here in Australia than most other shops combined.Congratulations.......
Living in Sydney I am lucky to be able to attend almost every street meet that is on and not once have I ever seen or heard of Rice Racing.He is only 2 hours away from us so if he is as clever as he says he is then maybe he will turn up there soon.He sure has some catching up to do.
As for RETed.....I hope you have done a few more cars than your 13.4 second rx7 that is on your web site.Like i said earlier,I'm forced to see things from a results only point of view and 13 second quarters are not what I'd consider to be in the same class as Anthony.
I wish I lived closer to Melbourne as I would love to have Anthony spinning the spanners on my car.
Rice Racing...How about doing what your name says and go do some RACING.Playing on the computer doesn't count.
And for what it's worth.I run a haltech on my 13b turbo rx3 and and not biased towards any brand of computer or the guy selling it.Plenty of my friends have microtech's on their rotors and all run just as well as my haltech when they are in the hands of the right tuner.And in some cases better than some haltech's that I've seen getting around Sydney.
04-22-02, 07:43 PM
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No No, Anthony feels the need to trash me because I have an education & becuse I do not choose to be like all the other sheep in Australia and run a Microtech...get real.
He rides on his reputation and is a legend in his own mind just because he has the largest mouth, or so he shows us by insulting me.
It has been proven that you do not need high tech to go fast in the 1/4 so get over it ! If you want advertising space for yourself or for microtech then pay for it ! People come on here to share data and information on products, go do a search on my posts to see what I mean. Your self aknowledged arrogance is useless to people who want to obtain information to make their OWN choices.
My opinions can be verified by MANY sources and seem only to be ridiculed by loud mouths like you.
You earn respect, I have many discussions with other notable people on here like CRISPEED and we do not agree on many points, but he does not come on here thinking he is GOD like you and some of your mates.
He rides on his reputation and is a legend in his own mind just because he has the largest mouth, or so he shows us by insulting me.
It has been proven that you do not need high tech to go fast in the 1/4 so get over it ! If you want advertising space for yourself or for microtech then pay for it ! People come on here to share data and information on products, go do a search on my posts to see what I mean. Your self aknowledged arrogance is useless to people who want to obtain information to make their OWN choices.
My opinions can be verified by MANY sources and seem only to be ridiculed by loud mouths like you.
You earn respect, I have many discussions with other notable people on here like CRISPEED and we do not agree on many points, but he does not come on here thinking he is GOD like you and some of your mates.
04-22-02, 07:51 PM
#48
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
Originally posted by RX320BT
I would much rather listen to advice from someone that actually goes to the race track and learns what works and what doesn't than from a couple of guys who read text books for half the day and spend the other half posting replies on the internet.It doesn't leave much time to be playing with rotary engines end learning about them first hand.
Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to get involved in the technical arguments on this forum
Living in Sydney I am lucky to be able to attend almost every street meet that is on and not once have I ever seen or heard of Rice Racing.He is only 2 hours away from us so if he is as clever as he says he is then maybe he will turn up there soon.He sure has some catching up to do.
Rice Racing...How about doing what your name says and go do some RACING.Playing on the computer doesn't count.
I would much rather listen to advice from someone that actually goes to the race track and learns what works and what doesn't than from a couple of guys who read text books for half the day and spend the other half posting replies on the internet.It doesn't leave much time to be playing with rotary engines end learning about them first hand.
Unfortunately I'm not smart enough to get involved in the technical arguments on this forum
Living in Sydney I am lucky to be able to attend almost every street meet that is on and not once have I ever seen or heard of Rice Racing.He is only 2 hours away from us so if he is as clever as he says he is then maybe he will turn up there soon.He sure has some catching up to do.
Rice Racing...How about doing what your name says and go do some RACING.Playing on the computer doesn't count.
Last edited by RICE RACING; 04-22-02 at 07:57 PM.
04-22-02, 08:19 PM
#49
Lives on the Forum
Originally posted by Anthony Rodrigues
Before you can write this yourself, yes I am f#@king arrogant because I CAN BE, I HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT !!!!
Anytime you care to argue, meet me at the track, I will embarass you with any one of my customers cars.
Circuit or drag !!!
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
Before you can write this yourself, yes I am f#@king arrogant because I CAN BE, I HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT !!!!
Anytime you care to argue, meet me at the track, I will embarass you with any one of my customers cars.
Circuit or drag !!!
Regards- Anthony Rodrigues
We are not all from Aussie, and we don't have the great pleasure of knowning who you are and what exactly you do...
Are you going to mention one of the largest Microtech dealers in Aussie?
Can you seriously state that you can form an opinion cause you push Microtech so much?
I've gotten messages from Aussie rotary folks who either think you are a tuning GOD (of course they all run Microtech) or you're reputation is dirt (everyone else)...
-Ted
04-22-02, 09:04 PM
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Sorry to offend you rice but like i said I'm forced to see things from a results only point of view.I do respect your opinion but don't respect the way you have to try & drag down everyone who has a different point of view than yourself.Stop slagging on everyone else and give them respect for their own dyno findings and results on the race track.
You seem to slag off on microtech as soon as someone opens their mouth about one and if you read my post correctly you would see that I'm not a sheep and use a haltech myself.However,I have had a microtech previously and was also quite happy with the job it did.I can't say a bad word about either system.
I cosider the GTP series in australia to be one of the premier circuit racing classes in the land and seem to recall Paula Elstrek winning the rx7 class a couple of seasons ago with a microtech that Anthony set up.
I don't come on here and think I'm god and am not a friend of Anthony's but have the utmost respect for what he's done for the rotary scene here in Australia.
From what i can see Anthony isn't slagging you because you have an education,he's just trying to give people on the forum the right answers to their questions based on his racing experience with the rotary engine.Not based on stuff he's learnt in the classroom or from a text book.While you are racing local club sprints he's building engines and tuning cars that are running in the Australian sports sedan series,GTP series as well as the Australian club car championship.I consider this to be a bit of a difference.
You said it yourself rice........You EARN respect.And there is no better way to do that than continuously and consistently build fast cars.
So maybe one day we will see maybe just 1 of your cars out at the track and yourself and Anthony can settle your differences there.After all,I'm sure most members of this forum would rather hear real world facts that are proven on the dyno and on the race track than ones found in a text book.
Anthony as far as I'm aware has his OWN dyno and I do know for sure he and many of his customers visit plenty of race tracks.
Hope to see you there someday
You seem to slag off on microtech as soon as someone opens their mouth about one and if you read my post correctly you would see that I'm not a sheep and use a haltech myself.However,I have had a microtech previously and was also quite happy with the job it did.I can't say a bad word about either system.
I cosider the GTP series in australia to be one of the premier circuit racing classes in the land and seem to recall Paula Elstrek winning the rx7 class a couple of seasons ago with a microtech that Anthony set up.
I don't come on here and think I'm god and am not a friend of Anthony's but have the utmost respect for what he's done for the rotary scene here in Australia.
From what i can see Anthony isn't slagging you because you have an education,he's just trying to give people on the forum the right answers to their questions based on his racing experience with the rotary engine.Not based on stuff he's learnt in the classroom or from a text book.While you are racing local club sprints he's building engines and tuning cars that are running in the Australian sports sedan series,GTP series as well as the Australian club car championship.I consider this to be a bit of a difference.
You said it yourself rice........You EARN respect.And there is no better way to do that than continuously and consistently build fast cars.
So maybe one day we will see maybe just 1 of your cars out at the track and yourself and Anthony can settle your differences there.After all,I'm sure most members of this forum would rather hear real world facts that are proven on the dyno and on the race track than ones found in a text book.
Anthony as far as I'm aware has his OWN dyno and I do know for sure he and many of his customers visit plenty of race tracks.
Hope to see you there someday