302fc's pro am build
04-18-11, 02:15 PM
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you do realize that this was just a pos s5 na fc right?
nothing of value was lost and you just look like an ignorant dumbwit.
im all about rotary and staying pure, so dont get confused. im just saying his name is on the title of that 300$ shell and if he wants to power it with snakes snails and lizard tails, he can.
also im sure that you would totally conveniently forget about that weight distribution argument(which holds little credibility unless arguing polar moment) if he was doing a 3 or 4 rotor swap.
nothing of value was lost and you just look like an ignorant dumbwit.
im all about rotary and staying pure, so dont get confused. im just saying his name is on the title of that 300$ shell and if he wants to power it with snakes snails and lizard tails, he can.
also im sure that you would totally conveniently forget about that weight distribution argument(which holds little credibility unless arguing polar moment) if he was doing a 3 or 4 rotor swap.
04-18-11, 11:21 PM
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LOL, here come the haters. I love the 302 swap. Parts are easy to find, torque on tap and reliability out the tailpipe. 3 things which the rotary can't compete with. And they probably get around the same MPG too.
I love my Wankel but how can you even argue that what he's doing is ruining the car? Because it added weight? Big whoop. He'll learn to deal with it while he's drifting and or DD-ing it.
I love my Wankel but how can you even argue that what he's doing is ruining the car? Because it added weight? Big whoop. He'll learn to deal with it while he's drifting and or DD-ing it.
04-19-11, 10:19 AM
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The car is sick because it doesn't have a rotary engine. I think you are out numbered here as this is a site devoted to the Rx7 and the rotary engine.
This is a silly project as this swap took a lot of work and only has about 50 more h.p. v.s. a bone stock 13B without a turbo or any other modification. Plus he completely threw off the weight balance of the car with an iron V8.
As a rotary enthusiast I belong here as does my opinion. Maybe you need to go elsewhere.
This is a silly project as this swap took a lot of work and only has about 50 more h.p. v.s. a bone stock 13B without a turbo or any other modification. Plus he completely threw off the weight balance of the car with an iron V8.
As a rotary enthusiast I belong here as does my opinion. Maybe you need to go elsewhere.
04-19-11, 11:01 AM
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The car is sick because it doesn't have a rotary engine. I think you are out numbered here as this is a site devoted to the Rx7 and the rotary engine.
This is a silly project as this swap took a lot of work and only has about 50 more h.p. v.s. a bone stock 13B without a turbo or any other modification. Plus he completely threw off the weight balance of the car with an iron V8.
As a rotary enthusiast I belong here as does my opinion. Maybe you need to go elsewhere.
This is a silly project as this swap took a lot of work and only has about 50 more h.p. v.s. a bone stock 13B without a turbo or any other modification. Plus he completely threw off the weight balance of the car with an iron V8.
As a rotary enthusiast I belong here as does my opinion. Maybe you need to go elsewhere.
when modifying a rotary ie porting, your powerband naroows.. with a V8 the bower band is wide and theres a lot more ways to move the powerband where you want it.. and rotary power is all on top and if you have ever drifted a car where the power doesnt come on untill 6k you would know its a pain in the >>> to deal with...
to address your weight balance comment. the balance was screwed up when the car was gutted.. annd theres plenty of ways to get it back to near perfect sooo your argument there is invalid..
oh and for those of you who have been following the thread and supporting, THANK YOU..
oh and btw my first gen i had said i was putting in a turbo II motor, yea... that plan was scrapped as the motor was having issues getting sent over from japan. not to worry as i have just bought a 13b-REW.. tes.. a twin turbo in a fully gutted FD!! haha
i wonder if someone will complain about the weight balance again?! LOL
04-19-11, 01:56 PM
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You do realize that putting a REW in your first gen is going to **** up the weight distribution right? Do you have any idea how much the turbos weigh??? Not to mention the way the engine is going to sit in the bay, nope not worth it you fail and so does your first gen........ I hope you don't think I'm serious, im subscribed to your thread because I'm thinking about going the same route but with a supercharged 5.0
04-19-11, 02:05 PM
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it's apparent by your comments that you don't fully understand
rotaries; hence this swap. not my first choice for engine, but it can
be done clean. jbguillo's car is pretty rad. he now has a muscle car cowl
to hide the top of the engine under the hood.
rotaries; hence this swap. not my first choice for engine, but it can
be done clean. jbguillo's car is pretty rad. he now has a muscle car cowl
to hide the top of the engine under the hood.
04-19-11, 07:20 PM
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you do realize that this was just a pos s5 na fc right?
nothing of value was lost and you just look like an ignorant dumbwit.
im all about rotary and staying pure, so dont get confused. im just saying his name is on the title of that 300$ shell and if he wants to power it with snakes snails and lizard tails, he can.
also im sure that you would totally conveniently forget about that weight distribution argument(which holds little credibility unless arguing polar moment) if he was doing a 3 or 4 rotor swap.
nothing of value was lost and you just look like an ignorant dumbwit.
im all about rotary and staying pure, so dont get confused. im just saying his name is on the title of that 300$ shell and if he wants to power it with snakes snails and lizard tails, he can.
also im sure that you would totally conveniently forget about that weight distribution argument(which holds little credibility unless arguing polar moment) if he was doing a 3 or 4 rotor swap.
04-19-11, 07:27 PM
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LOL, here come the haters. I love the 302 swap. Parts are easy to find, torque on tap and reliability out the tailpipe. 3 things which the rotary can't compete with. And they probably get around the same MPG too.
I love my Wankel but how can you even argue that what he's doing is ruining the car? Because it added weight? Big whoop. He'll learn to deal with it while he's drifting and or DD-ing it.
I love my Wankel but how can you even argue that what he's doing is ruining the car? Because it added weight? Big whoop. He'll learn to deal with it while he's drifting and or DD-ing it.
04-19-11, 07:33 PM
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LOL!! ummm last time i checked a bone stock 13b NA made 150ish HP and like 100lb/ft of torque... a bone stock 92 mustang GT made 225ish HP and about 300lb/ft..
when modifying a rotary ie porting, your powerband naroows.. with a V8 the bower band is wide and theres a lot more ways to move the powerband where you want it.. and rotary power is all on top and if you have ever drifted a car where the power doesnt come on untill 6k you would know its a pain in the >>> to deal with...
to address your weight balance comment. the balance was screwed up when the car was gutted.. annd theres plenty of ways to get it back to near perfect sooo your argument there is invalid..
oh and for those of you who have been following the thread and supporting, THANK YOU..
oh and btw my first gen i had said i was putting in a turbo II motor, yea... that plan was scrapped as the motor was having issues getting sent over from japan. not to worry as i have just bought a 13b-REW.. tes.. a twin turbo in a fully gutted FD!! haha
i wonder if someone will complain about the weight balance again?! LOL
when modifying a rotary ie porting, your powerband naroows.. with a V8 the bower band is wide and theres a lot more ways to move the powerband where you want it.. and rotary power is all on top and if you have ever drifted a car where the power doesnt come on untill 6k you would know its a pain in the >>> to deal with...
to address your weight balance comment. the balance was screwed up when the car was gutted.. annd theres plenty of ways to get it back to near perfect sooo your argument there is invalid..
oh and for those of you who have been following the thread and supporting, THANK YOU..
oh and btw my first gen i had said i was putting in a turbo II motor, yea... that plan was scrapped as the motor was having issues getting sent over from japan. not to worry as i have just bought a 13b-REW.. tes.. a twin turbo in a fully gutted FD!! haha
i wonder if someone will complain about the weight balance again?! LOL
I would like to see your figures for the weight balance after the 5.SLOW, as I don't believe you.
I am happy to hear about your first gen though. That is a project I can support.
04-19-11, 07:36 PM
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I understand plenty and can comment that the Rx7 is a well balanced sports car and was never intended to be a straight line drag queen.
04-19-11, 08:10 PM
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Its funny how 90Vert has all of 20 posts, 1/3rd are in this thread lol. You need to go be a rotor head in a different thread and stop being a bi^ch...
To OP I like what your doing, Its your car not anyone elses do what you want lol. I am hoping to do a LS1 swap in mine when I get back from deployment, making weight distro roughly50/50...
Keep up the good work cant wait to see the updates
To OP I like what your doing, Its your car not anyone elses do what you want lol. I am hoping to do a LS1 swap in mine when I get back from deployment, making weight distro roughly50/50...
Keep up the good work cant wait to see the updates
04-19-11, 11:20 PM
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you are right.. i dont know a lot about rotaries.. to be completly honest i dont really know anything about rotaries. aside from what ive read in my minimal research online (websites validity???) i chose the 5.0 because i am a mustang lover, fox body to be exact, however i know the suspension geometry for drifting sux, and i know that rx7,s is pretty damn good.. hence my choice of car... i also chose the 5.0 because i wanted to be a little different.. most people do LS* swaps and i didnt want to do that... the hood issue will def be a fun one to tackle.. we will see.. and 90vert...well like someone else said.. you can take your rotary loving bs elsewhere.. you dont like what im doin, then DONT READ THE THREAD!! not a hard task
04-20-11, 03:52 AM
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And i gotta give props where props are due. That car is sick. Someone had to leave carolina and go to cali though so i never got the chance to see it's awesomeness in person. V8 fc's are cool mainly because it's cheap, reliable power. In a drift car, you want seat time, not wanting to grind your face into a bandsaw because you broke down on your warm up lap and it's going to cost time and money to fix that you dont have......
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Well whatever, if he wants to waste his time going through all the trouble, but I was talking turbo 13B . I realize that the 3 and 4 rotor engines are heavier but still probably not any heavier than the Ford turd all iron V8. Anyway if that swap was done, those engines would walk all over the 302.
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
04-20-11, 09:35 AM
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And i gotta give props where props are due. That car is sick. Someone had to leave carolina and go to cali though so i never got the chance to see it's awesomeness in person. V8 fc's are cool mainly because it's cheap, reliable power. In a drift car, you want seat time, not wanting to grind your face into a bandsaw because you broke down on your warm up lap and it's going to cost time and money to fix that you dont have......
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
04-20-11, 02:19 PM
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Well whatever, if he wants to waste his time going through all the trouble, but I was talking turbo 13B . I realize that the 3 and 4 rotor engines are heavier but still probably not any heavier than the Ford turd all iron V8. Anyway if that swap was done, those engines would walk all over the 302.
End of debate. I dont care if he puts a ****** Sunfire engine in it. You shouldnt either. This is the "DRIFTING" section of the forum. Not the "lets preserve the half a ******* million FC's built" section.
keep the car coming man, its gunna be rad.
04-20-11, 02:30 PM
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And i gotta give props where props are due. That car is sick. Someone had to leave carolina and go to cali though so i never got the chance to see it's awesomeness in person. V8 fc's are cool mainly because it's cheap, reliable power. In a drift car, you want seat time, not wanting to grind your face into a bandsaw because you broke down on your warm up lap and it's going to cost time and money to fix that you dont have......
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
NoPistons! FTW!!!!!!!
04-20-11, 08:01 PM
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I agree on the torque, if you like diesel powered cars, but I like a high revving high output engine. How do you mean the V8 is more reliable v.s. the Wankel. I have over 165K on mine N/A of course. Maybe you should question how you treat your engine instead of the reliability of said engine. I believe that 90% of rotary failures are due to operator error. Of course the owners will never admit that they were at fault.
This next part is for the OP and 90Turd
I helped my father swap in a 302 from a 76 F-series that was in a wreck and caught on fire. We literally pulled it out with over 200k and put it in his truck, started right up. No new anything! We drove it for the next 8 years with no air filter, the 200k Motorcraft plugs and wires from the swap along with the C4 trans that has no over drive. When pulling our trailor loaded with quads, sandrails and the occasional Justy it would ping like a SOB. But it NEVER failed us. 3 years after that, so 11 total and a set of "new to my dad" plugs, my step mom finally killed it by driving it 20 miles with no coolant in 90+ degree heat in the summer. Total damage.... 1 small hole in cyclinder #2, that's it! 302=amazing, to me.
In a drift car, you want seat time, not wanting to grind your face into a bandsaw because you broke down on your warm up lap and it's going to cost time and money to fix that you dont have......
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
I'm down for keeping drifting fun. Your build looks like it should accomplish that for you!
Road's closed pizza boy. Find another thread to troll. Dont let it be one of mine.
P.S. You sound like a ******* idiot. Go cut your wrist with an apex seal or something. That's way more useful to the community than your fanboyism.
04-21-11, 01:00 AM
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Those motors can go through hell and back. The 302 in mine has been overheated to well over 250 quite a few times, been over-reved to like 6.5-7k a lot, burns oil, makes funny sounds, and has a tiny radiator that leaks a little and does a horrible job at cooling the motor in the florida heat. I'm not sure the exact milage but its something above 150k and it refuses to die no matter how much I daily beat it, or take it off-road and into ditches lol.