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RotaryBuddha 02-27-08 05:06 PM

Wow 10 pages in less than 8 hours. So sad to see this forum go in this direction. And hopefully IB will stay away from other forums I'm on. Also if anyone noticed their slogan on IB website.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b2...ybuddha/IB.jpg

They welcome criticizing :)

DrKillJoY 02-27-08 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Dinnercoat (Post 7917787)
Only problem I see with it is the vagueness:

"- No Dealers in the classified sections. A dealer is defined as anyone who is selling more than 2 of the same product, or who repeatedly has items for sale."

Noted, and I think that was sort of the point. This does allow the moderators some level of flexibility to properly determine if the user is abusing the policy or not. The rule is not enforced without some effort and background searching. I'll see what we can try to add.

Moderators pull up a search query of the threads the user has posted in the recent past and really use that as a clear indicator of who is a "seller" and who is just selling.

Example, people who just happen to be selling different turbo setup every month, or better than that.. they manage to sel the exact same turbo setup 3 or 4 times a year. Mind you this doesn't include anyone who might have PM'ed the seller directly.

Sure it's possible that the guy is swapping turbos on a monthly basis and getting new ones, but it's highly unlikely. As ridiculous as it seems, some of the people who have had threads removed are that blatant about it.

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by rogrx7 (Post 7917831)

^lol

Maniacmikey 02-27-08 05:07 PM

Posts of 250 and I haven't seen a piidb? sad

sp00led 02-27-08 05:11 PM

piidb

there happy?

DrKillJoY 02-27-08 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by Normality_Glitch (Post 7917661)
The way I read his posts though definitely made me think he was only parting out one car, and that if he had parted out a car in the past it definitely wasn't happening frequently enough to make it into a job,or an extra form of income, which is what I would assume the vendor cost is meant for.

That's the same story most of the these guys abide by :scared: Oh I hardly do this, it's just a side thing... but they have 4 or 5 new threads a week being posted.

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 05:19 PM

so let's say if i decide to clear out my garage (keep in mind i no long have an fc) would i have to start 1 enormous post with all the parts and not be able to list individual threads? i mean within reason for example individual threads for aftermarket parts and another thread for stock parts.

Heisenberg 02-27-08 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers (Post 7917904)
so let's say if i decide to clear out my garage (keep in mind i no long have an fc) would i have to start 1 enormous post with all the parts and not be able to list individual threads? i mean within reason for example individual threads for aftermarket parts and another thread for stock parts.

BAN!

rogrx7 02-27-08 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers (Post 7917904)
so let's say if i decide to clear out my garage (keep in mind i no long have an fc) would i have to start 1 enormous post with all the parts and not be able to list individual threads? i mean within reason for example individual threads for aftermarket parts and another thread for stock parts.


Meh...I don't think you have to worry.

In reality this is all about politics. Kevin speaks his mind and is brash. His ban was to make an example for the rest of us...cause like said...other non-vendor members do the same thing... *cough* *cough* "3rd gen forum" and nothing is done o has been done.

It doesn't matter what the members want...its what the Knights of the round table want. Politics and money...thats what it is about.

Its the contribution of the members what makes this site profit...yet the members have to pony up.

DrKillJoY 02-27-08 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers (Post 7917904)
so let's say if i decide to clear out my garage (keep in mind i no long have an fc) would i have to start 1 enormous post with all the parts and not be able to list individual threads? i mean within reason for example individual threads for aftermarket parts and another thread for stock parts.


No your over analyzing it. It would be easy to determine if you have been trying to get rid of parts for days/weeks months from a single car part out.

I would be an entirely different thing if you happen to have new cars to part every couple of months or maybe happen to post in one of your threads that you got a "shipment of new ones" to sell.

For example it would be odd for someone to happen to have 3 different exhausts for sale in perfect condition within a three month period right?

On the other hand if your selling a OEM exhaust along with a HKS exhaust it would be something different.

:)

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by rogrx7 (Post 7917934)
Meh...I don't think you have to worry.

In reality this is all about politics. Kevin speaks his mind and is brash. His ban was to make an example for the rest of us...cause like said...other non-vendor members do the same thing... *cough* *cough* "3rd gen forum" and nothing is done o has been done.

It doesn't matter what the members want...its what the Knights of the round table want. Politics and money...thats what it is about.

Its the contribution of the members what makes this site profit...yet the members have to pony up.

yea i wouldnt be one to worry but it's just to bring up again that it's so unclear.

i am only here to entertain myself lol. thank you BAW

that is all.

Icemark 02-27-08 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by rogrx7 (Post 7917934)
In reality this is all about politics. Kevin speaks his mind and is brash. His ban was to make an example for the rest of us...cause like said...other non-vendor members do the same thing...

No, Kevin has a shop. If you buy his parts the return address is not his home but is Rotary Resurrection. They get shipped on Rotary Resurrection shipping accounts. Even if you buy them from one of his other names on this board. Despite what he says. he was making a profit for his company on the parts he sold here.

His ban was not an example. If he was, the moderation staff would have started this thread. We would have put his head up high for everyone to see... that is an example... and he would have been banned for more than a week.

He simply violated the rules that he had been repeatedly warned about.

*cough* *cough* "3rd gen forum" and nothing is done o has been done.
I'll say the same thing that I told Kevin countless times... if you wish to help and be a member of this community making it better for everyone, please point the violator out. We don't always catch even half the problems here, but we all try. Use the report post button found in every post to help us make the place a better one for everyone. Spammers the same thing... instead of replying to a Spammer and saying things like,"Die Spammer", report the post and get it shut down all the faster.


It doesn't matter what the members want...its what the Knights of the round table want. Politics and money...thats what it is about.

Its the contribution of the members what makes this site profit...yet the members have to pony up.
Nope, it is not members at all... it is VENDORS, DEALERS, ADVERTISERS that pony up. It is not even like the old days of when Ryan used to ask for money from the general populace to keep the servers running. That has been taken care of by IB. They put the board on new much more reliable servers, better than Ryan could have ever wanted to try and get. But then Kevin attacked Ryan countless times too about similar things, before IB was even in the picture.

Only ones paying are DEALERS, VENDORS and people trying to skirt around the advertising that they think they should get free because they have done so much for the community. Of course better Vendors, ones that do deserve our members money; play fair, and pay for the advertising and the right to sell. These shops like Pineapple or Atkins actually help the community as well as pay for their advertising here.

rogrx7 02-27-08 06:20 PM

icemark...won't you consider your self a violator?

Icemark 02-27-08 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by rogrx7 (Post 7918174)
icemark...won't you consider your self a violator?

How is that?

I don't sell in the classifieds, and I have paid for advertising and group buys here in the past when I was selling product.

RRTEC 02-27-08 06:29 PM

Crap.. They have my MustangForum too..lol

Maniacmikey 02-27-08 06:30 PM

yea they got the mustang forum about the same time they got this one.

$100T2 02-27-08 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by kontakt (Post 7915771)
If we could move BAW over to TFL this forum would never see my monitor again.

Come on over. Besides, there's some cool new features there you guys probably don't know about.

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by $100T2 (Post 7918247)
Done. Come on over. Besides, there's some cool new features there you guys probably don't know about.

we dont care about features. the important question is DO YOU HAVE COOKIES AND NEWBS??

on a moar serious note theres alot of NSFW stuff at TFL lol. not good when you are BAW

$100T2 02-27-08 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by ilike2eatricers (Post 7918262)
we dont care about features. the important question is DO YOU HAVE COOKIES AND NEWBS??

on a moar serious note theres alot of NSFW stuff at TFL lol. not good when you are BAW

All NSFW stuff will be appropriately tagged. Or, just don't click on anything BATMAN links, you should be fine.

F1blueRx7 02-27-08 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by DrKilljoy (Post 7917777)
Looks like you jumped criticisms here, at first you were referring to multiple threads, but in your response you zero in on the singular topic of classified ads.

Regarding classified ads it's a well worn subject that several members of the staff have been working with and urging the powers at IB to come on-board with refocused standards and a keener eye on the role of the "shade-tree mechanic/weekend shop owner". Fact is we can only work with what we have and that's what we are doing.

The rules we are currently adhering to are posted in the announcements of each and every Classified section on the forum. The announcement looks like this:

**** MUST READ this before you buy or sell on this forum ****

I don't know how much clearer it could get than clicking on the links and reading the rules. Please let me, let you lead the way on this one. How else should be modify what has been done to make it better... waiting to hear from you.

I think you misinterpret my seriousness about the issue, as you say "sucks we can't have serious conversation on the matter", I concur with you... in fact better than that I totally agree with you.

We won't be able to have serious conversation about issues with contributors who fail to use a mature level of communication in their posts. I'm not singling out anyone on this matter but it's easy to see who is serious around here and who isn't.



- No Dealers in the classified sections. A dealer is defined as anyone who is selling more than 2 of the same product, or who repeatedly has items for sale.


How many items do I have to sell at what frequency to be determined as "repeatedly has items for sale".

Heres my constructive criticism: Define that number and put it in that sentence. :icon_tup:

ilike2eatricers 02-27-08 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by $100T2 (Post 7918286)
All NSFW stuff will be appropriately tagged. Or, just don't click on anything BATMAN links, you should be fine.

so do you have newbs and cookies or what? :rlaugh:

Maniacmikey 02-27-08 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by $100T2 (Post 7918247)
Come on over. Besides, there's some cool new features there you guys probably don't know about.


Did your link vanish?

kontakt 02-27-08 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by $100T2 (Post 7918247)
Come on over. Besides, there's some cool new features there you guys probably don't know about.

Do you have the "not websense pwned" feature? Unfortunately not. I have no issues, but other BAW do.

$100T2 02-27-08 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by Maniacmikey (Post 7918326)
Did your link vanish?

Yep, it must have. Oh well, it's around there somewhere. :D

$100T2 02-27-08 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by kontakt (Post 7918339)
Do you have the "not websense pwned" feature?

You'll have to run that by me. Whatever problems you guys might have, Chris will find a way around.


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