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Windows 7
I have had WIN 7 running for a bout 30 minutes now and all I can say is wow. This is damn fast.
I always enjoyed XP and upgraded to Vista to try it out. It was stable and looked kind of pretty so I decided to keep it. My friend wanted to see WIN 7 so I downloaded, legally of course
so he can see it.
I am absolutely blown away at how fast everything is.
Has anyone else tried it out yet?
I always enjoyed XP and upgraded to Vista to try it out. It was stable and looked kind of pretty so I decided to keep it. My friend wanted to see WIN 7 so I downloaded, legally of course
so he can see it.I am absolutely blown away at how fast everything is.
Has anyone else tried it out yet?
Did you do a clean install, or upgrade install from Vista (it sounds like you upgraded XP to Vista to 7?). I ask mainly because the real test is after running a few months - both XP and Vista I've found to be quite speedy to boot and responsive on a fresh install, but slow down a great deal with time and as software and updates are added.
It would be refreshing if 7 gets away from the cycle of Windows tending to slow down to the point where it needs a fresh install every year or two to restore performance. I don't find OS X or Linux to have the same issue, so it is possible. But I'm not real optimistic, since 7 is basically a re-skin of Vista, with minimal differences under the hood.
It would be refreshing if 7 gets away from the cycle of Windows tending to slow down to the point where it needs a fresh install every year or two to restore performance. I don't find OS X or Linux to have the same issue, so it is possible. But I'm not real optimistic, since 7 is basically a re-skin of Vista, with minimal differences under the hood.
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It was a clean install so I am sure that has something to do with the performance gainM. Having said that my other computer has a clean install of vista and there is not much comparison ( speed wise ).
I installed the RC fresh.
As far as reliability with other OS', I haven't found any to be better than the other.
I ran the same copy of Vista for the longest time with no problems, I even outlasted my friend who is a die hard Mac user. It just depends on how you use it I guess and what websites you go on. My Windows will last longer than my hard drives, those seem to be failing a lot on me so I might get a solid state drive (instant start up ftw).
As far as reliability with other OS', I haven't found any to be better than the other.
I ran the same copy of Vista for the longest time with no problems, I even outlasted my friend who is a die hard Mac user. It just depends on how you use it I guess and what websites you go on. My Windows will last longer than my hard drives, those seem to be failing a lot on me so I might get a solid state drive (instant start up ftw).
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The tendency to slow down after with use has more to do with **** being installed and running in the background as well as file fragmentation then the operating system itself. I don't expect it to be much different with Windows 7. HOWEVER, there are some performance improvements with Windows 7 (and even Vista) if your running newer hardware (CPU's, GPU's).
The only real downside to Windows 7 should be compatibility but I haven't heard anyone complaining yet so maybe its better then Vista. Hopefully Microsoft got it right.
I've been running the same install of XP for 4 years with my laptop on almost 24/7 and will probably continue to do so until my laptop dies. All my data is backed up every night to another drive so it wouldn't take long to get back on my feet. The only reason to upgrade to Windows 7 would be if I need to run software which will only run on Windows 7 or if I need to buy a new laptop which will come with Windows 7. If I don't like it, I have plenty of legit copies of XP to go back to.
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The only real downside to Windows 7 should be compatibility but I haven't heard anyone complaining yet so maybe its better then Vista. Hopefully Microsoft got it right.
I've been running the same install of XP for 4 years with my laptop on almost 24/7 and will probably continue to do so until my laptop dies. All my data is backed up every night to another drive so it wouldn't take long to get back on my feet. The only reason to upgrade to Windows 7 would be if I need to run software which will only run on Windows 7 or if I need to buy a new laptop which will come with Windows 7. If I don't like it, I have plenty of legit copies of XP to go back to.
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Download and run Win 7 update advisor and it will tell you of any hardware or software compatability issues before you try Windows 7.
If you get Win 7 Pro or Ultimate you can run Win Xp software in a XP environment so any software you used under XP should run.
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I've run the betas and have been generally impressed, especially with the speed compared to Vista (and even XP). However two things stop me from upgrading my tablet:
1. Stupid Vista style common dialogs. They suck compared to the common dialogs we've had since Windows 95.
2. Has anyone verified that Halwin, the Microtech software and Megatune works under Windows 7 reliably?
Oh yeah, and since I'm on XP I'd have to do a wipe and reload, which is a real pain when there is nothing wrong with my current install.
1. Stupid Vista style common dialogs. They suck compared to the common dialogs we've had since Windows 95.
2. Has anyone verified that Halwin, the Microtech software and Megatune works under Windows 7 reliably?
Oh yeah, and since I'm on XP I'd have to do a wipe and reload, which is a real pain when there is nothing wrong with my current install.
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I would agree if you have XP or later and its working fine for you then there is little to no reason to upgrade. I would never pay full price for it but since my friend wanted to see it, and the price was right I said why not.
I actually work as a tech part time, and somehow I've missed getting a complimentary evaluation copy of 7, so I've been holding out for that rather than pay for it, full pop or not
It's got some nice improvements over Vista, but not enough for me to upgrade my own machines to it on my own dime. No one should pay full retail price if they're upgrading - find a computer parts wholesaler and get some RAM or a hard drive to upgrade your system, and get an OEM copy (which require hardware to be purchased on the same invoice) for a lot less than retail. The net price might not save a lot over retail, but you'll have a copy of Windows and the hardware upgrade at least.
I'm also reserving judgement on whether it's significantly quicker over time. I've read lots of reviews that seem to find it faster than Vista or even XP in some cases, but not by large margins, and not consistently. The consensus seems to be faster-to-a-working-desktop from boot than Vista on the same hardware, but not by a lot, and especially not if the criteria is that hard drive and cpu usage drop to normal idle levels (which is when the system is genuinely ready and responsive). That said, getting to the desktop and managing to be at least somewhat responsive sooner is still an improvement, even if the OS is still carrying on loading processes in the background.
I set up my year-old Vista-equipped laptop as a dual-boot XP-Vista machine because I couldn't get the software used for tuning my VW to run under Vista, and to see how Vista stacked up compared to XP on the same hardware - no question Vista32 is relatively slow and a resource hog, although the comparison isn't entirely equivalent - because the laptop came with Vista, there weren't XP drivers available for some hardware, (bluetooth, media/shortcut keys, etc), and I hacked an Nvidia driver for the GPU, which means the full functionality of the GPU is unlocked, where the laptop manufacturer driver restricts functions and performance.
I will say Vista hasn't seemed as prone to inexplicably slowing down over time as XP. The inexplicably is a key term here - of course if a machine gets loaded with lots of auto-starting programs and processes, whether malware or just unnecessary bits like Quicktime and everybody else's software fighting to be in the system tray, the machine will end up slow. But I work pretty hard to keep my own machines free of bloat, and I'm confident I don't have malware. Which is why it frustrates me that even running a tight ship, 2 out of 4 XP installations I still have, including a gaming desktop that doesn't get used for much else, have slowed dramatically on boot in particular. Bringing me back to what seems to be the common necessity to nuke Windows periodically to restore performance.
It's got some nice improvements over Vista, but not enough for me to upgrade my own machines to it on my own dime. No one should pay full retail price if they're upgrading - find a computer parts wholesaler and get some RAM or a hard drive to upgrade your system, and get an OEM copy (which require hardware to be purchased on the same invoice) for a lot less than retail. The net price might not save a lot over retail, but you'll have a copy of Windows and the hardware upgrade at least.I'm also reserving judgement on whether it's significantly quicker over time. I've read lots of reviews that seem to find it faster than Vista or even XP in some cases, but not by large margins, and not consistently. The consensus seems to be faster-to-a-working-desktop from boot than Vista on the same hardware, but not by a lot, and especially not if the criteria is that hard drive and cpu usage drop to normal idle levels (which is when the system is genuinely ready and responsive). That said, getting to the desktop and managing to be at least somewhat responsive sooner is still an improvement, even if the OS is still carrying on loading processes in the background.
I set up my year-old Vista-equipped laptop as a dual-boot XP-Vista machine because I couldn't get the software used for tuning my VW to run under Vista, and to see how Vista stacked up compared to XP on the same hardware - no question Vista32 is relatively slow and a resource hog, although the comparison isn't entirely equivalent - because the laptop came with Vista, there weren't XP drivers available for some hardware, (bluetooth, media/shortcut keys, etc), and I hacked an Nvidia driver for the GPU, which means the full functionality of the GPU is unlocked, where the laptop manufacturer driver restricts functions and performance.
I will say Vista hasn't seemed as prone to inexplicably slowing down over time as XP. The inexplicably is a key term here - of course if a machine gets loaded with lots of auto-starting programs and processes, whether malware or just unnecessary bits like Quicktime and everybody else's software fighting to be in the system tray, the machine will end up slow. But I work pretty hard to keep my own machines free of bloat, and I'm confident I don't have malware. Which is why it frustrates me that even running a tight ship, 2 out of 4 XP installations I still have, including a gaming desktop that doesn't get used for much else, have slowed dramatically on boot in particular. Bringing me back to what seems to be the common necessity to nuke Windows periodically to restore performance.
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I Downloaded Windows RX7!
it went into Limp mode,Blew coolant out of My USB ports and lost File compression.
..Time for a REBOOT???...help me please!
(sorry can't afford WIN7..I own an Rx7!)
it went into Limp mode,Blew coolant out of My USB ports and lost File compression.
..Time for a REBOOT???...help me please!
(sorry can't afford WIN7..I own an Rx7!)
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I would normally agree but when it is free it's hard to argue
i have noticed several issues with Win 7 a few programs seem to lock up and need to be closed via task manager. It is likely because of a driver and will get sorted out in the near future.
i have noticed several issues with Win 7 a few programs seem to lock up and need to be closed via task manager. It is likely because of a driver and will get sorted out in the near future.
If your hardware is less than 2 yrs old and you have a Wonky running OS
and some spare cash it wouldn't take much to start enjoying your PC again.
Almost like jumping from a FB into a FD
Does the same things only better.
How can you not like something with a handle like Win 7.
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