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Old 11-03-05, 07:00 PM
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When is my car emissions exempt?

88' rx7

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Old 11-03-05, 07:27 PM
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1 year after my 87.. which would only pass if it was replaced with a better car

but really, I think we're a few years away, i'm not sure on the year but i think it's close.
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86 last etest will be in 2006 ( and you need to do etest this year )
87 2007
88 2008

and so on, so you still have 2 more etestests to go .
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Emissions Testing?


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I think it is a little more complicated than that. When you own the car an etest is valid for 24mths. So theoretically if you test your car in the 18th year it should be the last time you have to test it since it will be exempt by the next time it is required. Therefore your 1988 model will be tested for the last time in 2006 assuming that they are testing even numbered cars in even years and vice versa.

But don't forget you can be exempt now if you know the right people.
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True,

by the way , etests are now valid only for 12 months.
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Originally Posted by FC3S.USD
True,

by the way , etests are now valid only for 12 months.
That is when you are transferring the car, they are still valid for 24 mths if you maintain ownership.
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i will need to know the right people as i have undergone some exhaust fun!

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Old 11-03-05, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by STR8BALLIN - R
i will need to know the right people as i have undergone some exhaust fun!

morgan

Thats some incriminating evidence he he

(mental note save page and blackmail the lawyer)
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Odd number years are checked on even numbered years, and vice versa. I bought my '84 last year (2004), and it was exempt when I transferred it. So really its 19 yrs. The 88 pickup I just sold, has one more etest in 2007. I ad to have one to licence it for this year, and the buyer had to get it transferred by Oct 29, or do another etest.

Lawyerspirit: It says right on the paper that is only valid for 12 months from the time it was done. If you stay the owner, you can buy plates for 2 yrs, but the test is only valid for one. Then they send you a notice requiring it again in the 2nd year.

For instance, my 99 civic will need one next spring, at which time I can buy plates for 2 yrs. The following yr, I would only be allowed to buy plates for 1 yr as it would require a new test the following yr. This stops you from being able to sneak around a test.
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i still find it stupid that if you have owned a car since day one, you never have to get an e-test. so you can do whatever the **** you want with it.

but if you are the 2nd owner or more, then they start testing that ****...guess they know the people who buy second hand cars do crazy **** to them
this unfortunately ends up being true for us...

luckily i think the county my car is registered under does not have a chassis dyno anywhere. most they can do is maybe tailpipe test, no load tests...but mostlike would not even pass that :|
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I love living in the boons no etest eh.
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Originally Posted by coldfire
i still find it stupid that if you have owned a car since day one, you never have to get an e-test. so you can do whatever the **** you want with it.
I've never heard that one before. My Honda was my Mother's (original owner)before she passed away, and she had to have etests. They start after the car is 3 yrs old. My stepfather is the original owner of his car too, and he has to have etest every second year as well. Its just the first 3 yrs of ownership that are exempt.
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Originally Posted by Whanrow
Lawyerspirit: It says right on the paper that is only valid for 12 months from the time it was done. If you stay the owner, you can buy plates for 2 yrs, but the test is only valid for one. Then they send you a notice requiring it again in the 2nd year.

This is a quote from the Drive clean website

"Passing an emission test every two years is a requirement for the renewal of vehicle licence plates, depending on where the vehicle is registered and its age."

The certificate is of no consequence if you maintain ownership. Yes, the certificate only states that it is valid for 12 months but the only person that will benefit from that certificate is a potential buyer that transfers the car to their name within that 12 months. So the 12 month rule is really useless for us to think about when trying to calculate our own obligations.
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Originally Posted by Lawyer's Spirit
This is a quote from the Drive clean website

"Passing an emission test every two years is a requirement for the renewal of vehicle licence plates, depending on where the vehicle is registered and its age."

The certificate is of no consequence if you maintain ownership. Yes, the certificate only states that it is valid for 12 months but the only person that will benefit from that certificate is a potential buyer that transfers the car to their name within that 12 months. So the 12 month rule is really useless for us to think about when trying to calculate our own obligations.
I can see what you're reading into that as the statement is a bit fuzzy. The reality is that after a year, a cop can pull you over and force you to have another etest if he has just cause - i.e. car is spewing smoke like crazy, simply because the test is only valid for one year. The same way they can force a safety check on your vehicle at any time.

I have to go to the licence bureau tomorrow to get a plate refund on a car I just sold, so I will have a word with them about this and report back.

Rob

p.s. you haven't provided all of us with your autographed picture from the newspaper article!
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ive got a question, i got my car etested in august, and my plate renewal is in jan. would i need to do the etest again, or will it never need to be etested again?
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to anyone who owns a 1988 model year rx7.
(i own one too)

we will have to do etests until the year 2007.
which means, if you've done the one for this year (2005) you only have to do the one for 2007 and you're FREE.
but if you have a late birthday(nov. or dec.) and haven't renewed your plates yet, then you have to do the one for this year, and in 2007 you'll have to do the one for that year as well, then you'll be FREE.

as a note to everyone wondering about how it works..
the last etest you run before you're FREE cannot be a conditional pass. in the 19th year, in order for you to be exempt from all future tests, it MUST pass.

whether that pass is legitimate or not...well, a PASS is a PASS right?
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There's ways to bring down HC PPMs and NO PPMs for a short period of time, just try not to drive hard while you've got your scientist hat on
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i have a question?
i have a 1987 Turbo II that i just bought last weekend and i still did not e-test it as yet. so if i got this right, i just have to do it this year and thats it?
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Originally Posted by Whanrow
I've never heard that one before. My Honda was my Mother's (original owner)before she passed away, and she had to have etests. They start after the car is 3 yrs old. My stepfather is the original owner of his car too, and he has to have etest every second year as well. Its just the first 3 yrs of ownership that are exempt.

hmmm, my parents have owned a Civic from day one. originally bought in Alberta. it is a 1990 model. they have never had to get it e-tested...maybe it is just the county then that doesn't have testing? don't know, just that i haven't heard of people who have owned their car from day one needing to do an e-test...

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Originally Posted by madscientist
as a note to everyone wondering about how it works..
the last etest you run before you're FREE cannot be a conditional pass. in the 19th year, in order for you to be exempt from all future tests, it MUST pass.
I don't know about that one. I have an '85 F-150 which I just put a 351 H.O. into this past winter and in the spring when I needed to get the sticker for Sept 05 (my b-day is in September) I had to have an etest before they would give it to me. When I went for the etest (was having some problems with some tuning) it failed and the mechanic messed around with the carb and timing to try and get it to pass. It didn't (just by a hair) so he gave me a conditional pass because I told him that I was going to rebuild the motor after this past summer. The MTO never said anything to me about having an etest with CONDITIONAL PASS in big bold letters across it when I went for my sticker and now I won't need anymore etests.
Whatever the case, that truck wasn't running 100% all summer and I still managed to keep up with a brand new Nissan Sentra SE-R that had 4 people in it up in Guelph. That was the first race of the season for me and I was somewhat disappointed to see him steadily creep away from me from a third gear (I put a 5 speed in the truck along with the 351) roll on down highway six. The second time we gave it I had my stereo turned down and I heard a very audible blowoff between gear shifts at which point I thought, "Not half bad for a completely stock 351." Then to assure my assumption about that, I had a little race with my buddy in his 3rd gen slightly modded Z-28 305/5speed AND a Dakota R/T snuck up beside us and hammered it as well. It was VERY loud and to my huge surprise a complete 3 way tie.
Sorry, little off topic. Just remembering this past fun summer. Can't wait till next summer already. lol

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High 40km HC's on an 88 rex

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There's ways to bring down HC PPMs and NO PPMs for a short period of time, just try not to drive hard while you've got your scientist hat on
Have a 88 blowing ~120 ppm on HCs at 40 kms. So failing Ont emissions. Getting a little desperate. Added new cats. New o2 sensor. Tuned & timed. Still haven't moved the HCs. everything else is passing. Compression is good. cleaned injectors. Thoughts guys?
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Originally Posted by wilkers1234
Have a 88 blowing ~120 ppm on HCs at 40 kms. So failing Ont emissions. Getting a little desperate. Added new cats. New o2 sensor. Tuned & timed. Still haven't moved the HCs. everything else is passing. Compression is good. cleaned injectors. Thoughts guys?

run the air pump directly to the cat, run some alcohol in the tank, and advance the timing about 10 degrees from stock. i don't recommend advancing timing unless you are using high octane gas (no alcohol).
you should pass.
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Cheers - thanks coldfire.


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