Prôdigy2nd

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Adam has forgotten more about rotaries then I will ever earn...

I am not on either side of the fence with the whole persona...

I have a friend that paid adam a lot of money for a engine build etc... got charged a lot (in my opinion) but someone of that knowledge is fairly valuable (only thing I can say is "Fair enough")

I have also heard (both of these opinions are just hearsay, and we all know how people like to blow things out of the water sometimes) that unless one puts up alot of money for a entire build (remember, this is what I have heard) he does not do the top quality job we all know he is capable of doing...


thats what i've heard... i'm still on the fence, having never dealt with him, or the Shop, I do know that Cam (Lightspeed Innovations) highly recommends him, and has no one else touch the wankels that come through his (Cam's) shop...


Thats what I've heard... in reality I know nothing...

I have dealt with 4kruzn, and being only a 1-3 man shop, I can say he has that small town "feel" and is also very knowledgeable in the area of Rotaries, and a pleasure to do business with...

Adam is in Calgary

Conroy (4Kruzn) is in edmonton area...



J.

Legend570

Thanks you guys you've been great for help lol

84stock

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My experience with Adam relates to 3 engine builds, along with my original camden installation and I always drop by for a visit when I am in the neighborhood. I share an element of trust with him, if he is looking for someone I have helped him. If I need any parts the door is always open. If he's not there, I help myself to what i need and square up later.

As for the comment above, there is definitely some credibility to it. You state your budget, and if there are no limits, you will truly get a well built motor. Where issues arise are when a bleeding heart with a tight budget needs help. This is where Adam strives to do what others will not, he will build per your budget. That is a good strategy and has benefited his business and many rx7 owners over the years. The "problem" with this is when someone sells a car stating an rx7specialties build they usually don't disclose exactly what's new and what's not (and before TD07 pipes in, they usually don't know either, since they only care about the bottom $$). It's cases like this when the new owner figures he has more that he really does and raises the boost, adds exhaust, etc etc without supporting mods (or with) and pop she goes.

TD07 is committed to another builder, who is capable of building a solid engine. This builder however sticks to a strict convention of new parts, mazda only parts, etc etc and here is the price (not negotiable) and you're gonna have to wait for it. As a result, these builds have held up because he has tight control over the application and being that this work is a hobby (labor of love) you get a good, patient, detailed build. No criticism directed or intended here!

My first motor from Adam was a bleeding heart help me out rebuild. It ran well, made decent power (below my expectations, not Adams fault, we'll blame the camden that had high in the sky hopes for me). TD07, maxt, and many others will recall my and Alak's lofty predictions.

My next motor came from another builder, this was to be my dream engine. A year later, pop goes the rotary.......not commenting on the details, that's old history. We'll just say the evidence pointed to catastrophic detonation.

Next motor was done by Adam, not a bleeding heart job this time though. New housings, etc ,etc, etc......but I blew this one up a year later. Called Adam on his cell at 9pm friday night to give him an ear full of my immediate thoughts. He met me at the car at 11 am the next morning tools in hand. Checked things over, and yep, no compression on one rotor. Again, my frustrations showed, immediately blaming the failure on the apex seals. Adam "guaranteed it wasn't an apex seal failure" and if it was, I would pay nothing for the rebuild. Can I blame the build, well no. The bridge (it was a half bridge port by the previous builder) snapped off and went through the motor. Wow, was I surprised! Who to blame here?? Not Adams port work, or he would have stood behind it. Previous builders fault, well this port supported 450 rwhp, and I hadn't hit 200hp yet. Although I have publicly and not so publicly pointed a few fingers, I feel I know why it failed. We'll just say that I have since mastered the art of old school tuning with my engine. In the 450 hp application this port made power with the benefit of a finely tuned motec vs my carb, blower (heat generator), and distributor.

Last motor, again built the way I wanted it, benefited from some donated parts. A pair of end plates from one motor which Adam lapped and streetported for free. A pair of 3mm s4 rotors (Chris will remember these) from the previous builder, Adams seals (which I trust and although he is committed to 2mm seals and quit making 3mm, these suit the stress my old school set up and tuning provides very well). Adam did this motor for a song since so many others contributed their support as well and I am eternally appreciative (perhaps why I appear defensive to those providing criticism).

On every occasion Adam completed each build exactly on time, even stayed til midnight to complete the original camden installation so I got it on the day he was committed to.

84stock

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Soooo where does my car stand now. Still the same build, very very durable in my opinion.

Tuning, carb is dialed in to perfection with the aid of a wideband and several mods to the holley which I am so comfortable with.

Timing curve dialed in with the aid of some old school ford motorsport springs from Del at Deltech and some internal mods to the distributor.

Heat from the camden under control with the aid of snow performance water methanol injection. Soon to be upgraded further.

Exhaust saw a huge improvement with the rb roadrace system.

Gears changed to 4.88's to match the rest of the combination.

Running for 2+ years now with no issues.....thanks to a whole lot better tune and a good learning curve.

Last year the car put down 227 rwhp.
While this may pale in comparison to a standalone equipped, tuned, big turbo arrangement; it beat the previous high of 211 rwhp out of a 7" camden on a 13b running efi, a cas and a tuned microtech.

The car turns heads and launches great.........will I ever make the leap into the standalone/turbo world, budget commits me to what I currently have.

This year, it will see rear suspension work, rear coil overs and nitrous.

Future, I really want the respeed rack n pinion kit!

TD07

Holy Bananas that was a long post!!!

Pretty in depth though I must say.

I really only take exception with one part "TD07 is committed to another builder" I have not made any reference to another builder at any point during this thread!!!! I said that I would recommend using someone other than Adam and his shop for rotary work but never offered an alternative (which admittedly is not very helpful) **** I built the motor in my own car with the help of a few local friends and used parts picked from about 4 scrapped motors I collected from the wreckers and classifieds.

I don't have an agenda, I'm not telling people to stay away from Adam and then sending them to someone else. Besides the engine the rest of an RX-7 is just a car like any other. ANY decent mechanic at ANY shop should be more than capable of dealing with 99.9% of all problems. And when it comes to engines I can't recommend Adam I've seen things I can't unsee.

scars

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FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! hahahaha

what sucks is we don't even have a shop in ottawa to bitch and complain uhm i mean critize haha

TalkSick

lmfao

now i remember why i drive the car but avoid the local "scene"

people always wanna play "good shop vs bad shop" an its usually to cover up some "smart customer vs dumb customer" bullshit.

to the OP, read peoples opinions, but make your own decisions. find out what you want, what its worth, what it costs, an what you are willing to pay. all of a sudden its pretty near impossible for any shop, good or bad, to **** you over. ive read endless posts like this and its kinda sad. someone asks a simple question "what rotary shops are near me" and up pops the circus to air their dirty laundry about the same **** they been goin on about for the last hundred years an theyll go on about for a hundred more if u let em.

OP, use the search function, search the shops u intend to visit, read the posts, most look like this one but its your responsibility to inform yourself so suffer through it.

to jabby an stabby, grow up. TD07 all you needed to post was "search rx7-specialties, some have had complaints."

84 all you needed to post was "keep searching, many have had good experiences"

actually yall didnt need to post at all seeing as how neither of you actually offered a fresh answer to the ops original question. get over it, an let it go... or hook up in a parking lot an fight about it, but cut the message board bullshit

Smitter

I Recommend RX-7 Specialties. I have had a couple engines built there, and have dealt with Adam numerous times.

I had an agreement with Adam to use his shop to perform work on my own car at one time aswell, So i have seen the behind the scenes dealings with customers, services,engines/products and pricings of his shop. You will be in good hands there.

Killa_7

i live in edmonton as well bud and i got conroy to rebuild and street port my 7 and let me say im very impressed with the work he did on it...
but like the other guy said he's a pretty busy guy goin to races and what not lol... so the sooner u call probably the better...
I was talkin to him not to long ago and he's in the middle of makin a turbo kit for us edmonton guys, gettin the manafold manufactured and a down pipe, i cant remember what turbo (precision turbo) he was goin to use but i think it was a non-ballbearing one...i think he said new injectors but they might not be needed unless u plan on draging... and a stand alone HKS system.... he said horsepower from anywhere from 350 to 400

84stock

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I did say, no offense. The builder who you are so familiar with is well respected in his circle and beyond. The fact that you graduated to build your own engine is a mirror of the step I hope to take as well. I just have yet to have the time, courage, etc. Although, I have accumulated a few parts: As new set of apex seals, another camden (now don't start, it was a steal!), light flywheel, T04E equivalent turbo, spare tranny, etc......one day I'll score a donor engine to make my efforts and porting experiment with.

Prôdigy2nd

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84 Stock... I remember a few years ago (probably 2006) metting a few of you guys at a saturday afternoon gathering... and hearing that supercharged beast... still leaves an impression on my mind of a very odd, but beautiful sounding engine...


J.

TD07

I'm not offended. I take exception with the statement.

I do not recommend Adam or his shop, and as unhelpful as it may be I don't have an alternative to recommend. Now if I was "committed" to another builder wouldn't this be the time to mention that builder? Lol! Come on Gary you're smarter than this, you're playing Adam's little game. He LOVED to divert any and all criticism by saying "You guys are only saying that cause your opening your own shop" Which of course was not the case then as it is not the case now.

The reality? Adam really doesn't have any competition in town and hasn't for years. I don't know much about Conroy so I can't speak to his engines or abilities. Now does that sound like someone who is "committed" to another builder?