rotary fuel lube
03-10-17, 01:34 AM
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rotary fuel lube
anyone know where i can get those idemitsu rotary fuel lube in canada? i know states have them, but the shipping across border is expensive. im from vancouver, just pick up my new fc last month 
03-10-17, 11:22 AM
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If you are in Vancouver you could use a shipping outlet in the States and hop over the border to collect them. that what I do out my way. So for Vancouver you could use somewhere like this: https://5dpackages.com/
Any excuse to get the 7 out right
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03-10-17, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RotaryEvolution
why jump through hoops if you don't have easy to get from sources?
idemitsu is premix, same as most any 2 stroke lubricant.
idemitsu is premix, same as most any 2 stroke lubricant.
03-10-17, 09:05 PM
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thanks to all the reply. i contacted those Canadian dealer, they dont carry anymore. i probally gonna get from idemitsu directly and ship to border.
im no chemist or engineer. sure 2 stroke could be used. but why not use whats already proven, and specific engineer for rotary.
im no chemist or engineer. sure 2 stroke could be used. but why not use whats already proven, and specific engineer for rotary.
03-12-17, 01:35 AM
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..and why buy **** that is expensive when you have a cheaper and Proven alternative..such as a TCW3 2 stroke?
remember that Rotary engines did not run with 2 stroke..UNTIL someone thought of it...so there was a lot of research done there.
If I had to buy Idemitsu..or whatever,I'd be living in a tent.
I buy Walmart 2 stroke..and eat Steak.
remember that Rotary engines did not run with 2 stroke..UNTIL someone thought of it...so there was a lot of research done there.
If I had to buy Idemitsu..or whatever,I'd be living in a tent.
I buy Walmart 2 stroke..and eat Steak.
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03-12-17, 09:46 PM
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..and why buy **** that is expensive when you have a cheaper and Proven alternative..such as a TCW3 2 stroke?
remember that Rotary engines did not run with 2 stroke..UNTIL someone thought of it...so there was a lot of research done there.
If I had to buy Idemitsu..or whatever,I'd be living in a tent.
I buy Walmart 2 stroke..and eat Steak.
remember that Rotary engines did not run with 2 stroke..UNTIL someone thought of it...so there was a lot of research done there.
If I had to buy Idemitsu..or whatever,I'd be living in a tent.
I buy Walmart 2 stroke..and eat Steak.
03-13-17, 07:52 AM
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I think people are being a little harsh on the OP, if he wants peace of mind using Idemitsu products then why not? I personally prefer supporting Idemitsu than Walmart, a company renowned for mistreating its employees in terms of gender wage equity. I think the last Walmart scandal I heard was that the location in Fort McMurray was trying to sell wildfire contaminated food when all other stores had shipped in fresh products.
03-13-17, 02:22 PM
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The thing with pre-mix is you won't really see the results unless you tear the engine down after running it and do an inspection. I run it in my cars and wouldn't run anything else unless I'm running a Ethanol based fuel.
Idemitsu is a VERY large company like 2-3 Billion dollars and I imagine the Rotary premix is like 0.001% of their business, but they still use and developed it for a reason.
Idemitsu is a VERY large company like 2-3 Billion dollars and I imagine the Rotary premix is like 0.001% of their business, but they still use and developed it for a reason.
03-15-17, 09:41 PM
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But the Gist of the thread I think is should I buy Top of the line or Generic?
Knowing that the Generic 2 stroke is just as good as a lubricant than the Top of the line IndyMister..(whatever)..I just want the guy to save some money and be happy.
Frankly If you got money to burn then by all means burn it..but when you Know that you may not have money to burn tomorrow you sort of go for the "#2 option"...and the average Joe loves to save money.
I love the "It's all or nothing" theory on these engines...you GOTTA run or buy this OR ELSE..Brandname or it blows up.
Next thing you know it will be special gas,Tires with teflon so you can drift and bottled Japanese air instead of nitrous because the car is a JDM ya know..
Funny that guys that "don't know Rotaries" are building parts FOR Rotaries and....Of course..they WORK..People are buying them up..Greddy for instance is not the ONLY Intercooler installed in front of a RX7....Oh LOOK...Chinese Intercooler...works as good if not better than Greddy..who would have thought that??
SO,if Parts can be duplicated then Oil can be substituted.
Knowing that the Generic 2 stroke is just as good as a lubricant than the Top of the line IndyMister..(whatever)..I just want the guy to save some money and be happy.
Frankly If you got money to burn then by all means burn it..but when you Know that you may not have money to burn tomorrow you sort of go for the "#2 option"...and the average Joe loves to save money.
I love the "It's all or nothing" theory on these engines...you GOTTA run or buy this OR ELSE..Brandname or it blows up.
Next thing you know it will be special gas,Tires with teflon so you can drift and bottled Japanese air instead of nitrous because the car is a JDM ya know..
Funny that guys that "don't know Rotaries" are building parts FOR Rotaries and....Of course..they WORK..People are buying them up..Greddy for instance is not the ONLY Intercooler installed in front of a RX7....Oh LOOK...Chinese Intercooler...works as good if not better than Greddy..who would have thought that??
SO,if Parts can be duplicated then Oil can be substituted.
03-16-17, 07:28 AM
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The OP started this thread by simply asking where one can buy Idemitsu premix in Canada.
There was no request for opinions as to whether this is a cost effective purchase.
I'm not sure that your example of a Chinese knockoff of a Greddy Intercooler is a good one. Why give your business to a company that profits from intellectual theft?
There was no request for opinions as to whether this is a cost effective purchase.
I'm not sure that your example of a Chinese knockoff of a Greddy Intercooler is a good one. Why give your business to a company that profits from intellectual theft?
03-16-17, 07:44 AM
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The OP started this thread by simply asking where one can buy Idemitsu premix in Canada.
There was no request for opinions as to whether this is a cost effective purchase.
I'm not sure that your example of a Chinese knockoff of a Greddy Intercooler is a good one. Why give your business to a company that profits from intellectual theft?
There was no request for opinions as to whether this is a cost effective purchase.
I'm not sure that your example of a Chinese knockoff of a Greddy Intercooler is a good one. Why give your business to a company that profits from intellectual theft?
If Idemitsu really is any better, you'd think a representative would have shown up on the worlds largest RX7 forum by now and put the 1000 threads debating this to bed with some actual facts.
After all these years, pre-mix and motor oil opinions are just as divided as politics
03-16-17, 07:57 AM
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Look, a lot of responses are missing the point.
The OP is a new member, likely his first rotary car is the Fc he has just acquired.
Nobody is saying Idemitsu invented 2 stoke oil. Nobody is implying that. Nobody is even thinking this.
The OP just wondered where we, as experienced rotor heads, buy the stuff here in Canada where it is rather uncommon.
We should be especially solicitous and welcoming to all new members. He seems like he has a tough skin but others might feel disinclined to return to the forum after being lambasted for their choices.
The OP is a new member, likely his first rotary car is the Fc he has just acquired.
Nobody is saying Idemitsu invented 2 stoke oil. Nobody is implying that. Nobody is even thinking this.
The OP just wondered where we, as experienced rotor heads, buy the stuff here in Canada where it is rather uncommon.
We should be especially solicitous and welcoming to all new members. He seems like he has a tough skin but others might feel disinclined to return to the forum after being lambasted for their choices.
03-16-17, 04:47 PM
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If you can't find sources for it then try contacting Rotary engine rebuilders in your area (Rx7 Specialties in Alberta for instance.).They should at least be able to lead you on the right path.
There is a BC based shop but Damned if I can remember it!
WestCoast Rotary is also a site that you may wanna hit up.
It may not have a lot of traffic but you may be able to grab some snippets of info there too.
There is a BC based shop but Damned if I can remember it!
WestCoast Rotary is also a site that you may wanna hit up.
It may not have a lot of traffic but you may be able to grab some snippets of info there too.
03-16-17, 08:48 PM
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lol didnt mean to turn it in to heated discussion. i will listen to all the opinions by you folk
so many little things i need to change to my liking. add a kill switch, fix the hinge, fix the heater hose under oil filter, change out plugs and wires etc......
so many little things i need to change to my liking. add a kill switch, fix the hinge, fix the heater hose under oil filter, change out plugs and wires etc......
03-18-17, 12:12 AM
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I like "funkifying" my car too!..lol..I put a 1500 watt inverter in there and ran my electrical grinder and impact off the back of the car!
I couldn't find a big enough suction cup to hold the Disco ball to the glass sunroof though!
03-28-17, 09:22 AM
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No disrespect for the original poster or anyone else, but I thought my experiences may be of some benefit to this discussion. In my race RX7 I have used 3 different 2 Stroke Oils and have found all 3 to be of value. What I also look at is drop out over time and ease of use. Most premium 2 Stroke Synthetics are very good. The one I like the best is Redline Race 2 Stroke for Pre Mixing. Great product and readily available in either Canadian Tire or out in B.C. at Mopac. It handles my sustained (like up to 3 Hour full throttle runs) abusive issues really well. Doesn't coke the plugs and stays well blended. Compression was great on the keg until I over heated it last summer.
The other 2 I have used successfully are Castrol Racing 2 Stroke and its great and in a pinch I have also used Bel Ray 2 Stroke Racing Pre Mix oil. I used to use all of these in my racing 2 stroke karts and they were really great at minimizing combustion chamber deposits. I will see what the inside of my keg looks like after I find an engine builder who has time to repair it, but the motor ran great and made big power right up until it was killed on the mock grid at Mosport this past summer.
All of these companies do a ton of work in product development and the reason I stay with race lubes over regular 2 stroke lubes, is that in racing 2 strokes, it is critical to maintain a decent film strength in abusive situations (like 11,000 rpm single cylinder air cooled motors) and leave as little or no deposits as possible. They are designed to work in ratios of up to 100:1 and still protect from wear.
Just some advice.
Eric
The other 2 I have used successfully are Castrol Racing 2 Stroke and its great and in a pinch I have also used Bel Ray 2 Stroke Racing Pre Mix oil. I used to use all of these in my racing 2 stroke karts and they were really great at minimizing combustion chamber deposits. I will see what the inside of my keg looks like after I find an engine builder who has time to repair it, but the motor ran great and made big power right up until it was killed on the mock grid at Mosport this past summer.
All of these companies do a ton of work in product development and the reason I stay with race lubes over regular 2 stroke lubes, is that in racing 2 strokes, it is critical to maintain a decent film strength in abusive situations (like 11,000 rpm single cylinder air cooled motors) and leave as little or no deposits as possible. They are designed to work in ratios of up to 100:1 and still protect from wear.
Just some advice.
Eric