If we can use the word "motor" again, you got yourself a deal.

 

Splitting hairs no?

An accident is an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.

There's still fault, just not intent... if there's intent, it's not an accident, it's an "on purpose"

-Geoff

 

I think the age to drive should be moved up or more training most of the people around where I live cant drive and most of them are the ones getting in accidents but I do agree 140 should be the 400's speed limit

 

Yeah I would agree with moving the age limit to 18 or 19. I was a total retard at 17 in my moms car, miracle I survived.

 

just so everyone knows ... speed doesn`t kill, it has never killed anyone and wont ever..... it is the sudden stop that kills we should make that illegal.

 

How would you make sudden stops illegal? Make all hard objects illegal?

 

Theres things at work that people are not taking into account here. Physics is one of them. If the velocity is higher the gforces upon hitting, stopping, whatever are going to be higher. If your travelling faster than the posted speed limit your obviously have a harder time dodging something, braking distance is longer etc. And if we raised the speed limits more than likely people will speed even more. Thats all we need is a 140 km/h limit on 400 series and people speeding doing 160, 180 whatever.

 

I don't agree with the logic "people will see 140 and do 160"

reason being, only a handful of people now are comfortable driving 120+. the average person i feel would not push the boundaries of the suggested increased limit. will there be some who will , yes, but i don't think it will be anywhere close to the people who won't.

 

Have you driven in the GTA for a long period of time? The amount of bad drivers I see in one day is ridiculous. If I go on a 5 minute drive ill see at least 5 bad drivers..usually more. And the amount of people I see speeding on the 400, I think is pretty high. I drive it every day to work. Theres so many accidents too it doesnt matter if its rain, snow or shine. Snow makes it 10× worse though.

 

It's remarkable that in a country which sees 6 months of snow and ice, that we don't have mandatory skid pad and winter driving training.

Then again, the entire driver training process is basically a joke as I've been ranting about for years.

Education is the answer, never enforcement.

 

I wish someone would force mandatory testing every few years or whatever. Or anyone who immigrates to Canada should have to get theyre license again, not trying to be an *******..but its true. Also after a certain age people should be retested. Another thing that would help is mandatory snow tires across Ontario. Quebec did it why dont we? The place with the highest accident rate in Canada is Brampton. And it definitely shows, I hate driving there constantly worrying about my car and being extremely cautious.
And its not just Brampton thats bad..Toronto, Barrie, Newmarket. I would rank Vaughan, Brampton, Mississauga as the worst areas to drive. Downtown T.O is up there too but its a way better idea to use public transit as you cant drive in most areas.

 

My Opinion.
Accidents or collision happen why ? People dont know how to drive.
You can do 120, 140 , 160 or even 180 on the highway and your fine. But why do it at 4pm traffic time ?

1- you must yeild the fast lane to oncoming traffic !! No ticket is ever given for that but its LAW!
2- an officer can not chase a motorcycle over 160 or 180 cant remember( wish the rx was motorcyle class lol ) . Rememer that law aplies to Canada only .
3- The autobahn does not have a speed limit but heard they are considereing 180kph but still not decided ( now the autobahn has less accidents then the main highway in the capital here. Lets not forget that it has no speed limit !!
Speed in my books will not kill.... bad drivers do !!.
Alcohol does not kill people behind the wheel. Stupid decision of driving while drunk does !!!


Bob

 

Raising the speed limits won't solve any problems, and if your biggest concern is getting somewhere faster, do the math.

Let's say your destination is 100km. So, driving at 100km/h you'll get there in well, an hour. BUT lets say you're going 110! (wow!) 100/110=0.9090909090..
Which is equivalent to 54.5 Minutes wow!

Now in terms of why the hell do our speed limits not match the rest of the country? Who knows, look at Toronto's mayor and you can probably gather a good idea of what goes on here.
That and the fact that it would cost way too much time and money for them to switch every speed limit sign in Ontario. And we all know how cheap our governing body is.

This argument gets way too old too quickly, I couldn't care less about the speed limit, everyone drives at least 120 anyways, as long as you follow the traffic flow then you'll most likely not be getting a ticket, unless you are blatantly a drug dealer or drunk.

I also agree with the above poster in respect that the idiot drivers are the problem.
Speed limits will not be increased any time soon.

Let's focus on Drive Clean ok? now THAT is BS.

 

As I've said before, study after study has shown this to be the case.

The majority of people won't drive faster than they feel is safe. If you raise the speed limit to 250km/h, it doesn't mean people will start driving 280km/h... they won't feel safe enough to do it.

These same studies show that if a speed limit is set higher in an area than drivers feel safe at, they drive below the limit.

People don't do 120km/h on the 401 because the limit is 100, they do it because they feel it's safe for the road. Yes, there are people out there who drive at 200km/h on the 401, but they're going to do that regardless of what the limit is.

-Geoff

 

Wonderfully said ^^

 

110% AGAINST raising the speed limit have you driven the 401 near markham? wayyy to many bad drivers that can even begin to handle 120kmh, Seniors have a hard enough time doing 100!

 

^^This has already been addressed several times - setting an artificially low speed limit (which is indicated pretty much any time a large portion of drivers - roughly >15% - is routinely exceeding it) doesn't do anything for safety. If the flow of traffic is already 120 when conditions permit, setting the limit at 100 to suit people who can't handle 100 isn't changing anything - and it's just highlighting that those drivers probably aren't competent to drive anymore (if they ever were). Setting the speed limit lower does, however, lead to those slowpoke drivers sitting in any damn lane they feel like and not feeling obliged to move right to yield to faster traffic, as required by law, and which action does aid in allowing traffic moving varying speeds to better share the road - and also leads to fewer accidents.

 

I hate to beat up a dead horse here as the election has happened already, but I had an idea and wanted to share. I got a pretty hefty speeding ticket the other day because it was beautiful out and I felt like stretching the legs on the rx7 a bit. I was just accelerating coming out of a town having a bit of fun and I didn't see the cop. I don't speed on a regular basis or for a long period of time. I just like to feel the acceleration and actually enjoy driving. So I was driving the speed limit after that, bored out of my tree due to the slow speed, and it gave me time to think. There is a solution to this. Have another graduation of licencing available to drivers that would give them permission to drive at a higher speed. To get this licence you would have to take proper training like they do in Finland or other European countries. Make it an in depth training on proper car control. This way only those who have proper training can drive faster rather than just raising the speed limit. Only those with true skill and knowledge can pass and get the licence. Also, not only would the driver have to be certified but the car they are driving would have to be certified as well. Only cars capable would be allowed to be used and should be inspected periodically. These cars would have to get specialty plates that are recognizable at a distance (different colour etc.) so the police can pick you out. I'm not talking about a huge increase in speed limit for these drivers, but possibly instead of 80kmph in rural areas like mine make it 100 or 110. Also due to the increased training, insurance rates for these drivers should be lowered to entice people to actually take the advanced training. Another thing that would have to be done then is the actual speed limits would have to be enforced more. Slow down the stupid drivers or force them to take training and increase their skills. If they can't pass (can't drive basically) they drive the slow speed limits. I think with a bit more thinking this is an idea that could take off. A much better idea than raising the speed limits for the general public of shitty drivers out there. I'm just sick of the car enthusiast getting screwed in this province.

 

I heard a story about a funny case from a lawyer the other day, who was representing someone who got a ticket for careless driving for doing 120 km/h on the highway in the left lane. The line up behind was so long, and enough people were trying to pass him on the right that the cop gave him a ticket for it. He fought it since he was already, well, speeding... by 20 km/h... and lost.
Therefore... speed limits don't matter; it seems to be completely dependent on the cop that sees you doing it.

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^