My rant for the year
10-15-12, 01:39 PM
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I agree with Shannonville.
there would be 10 cars from ottawa , montreal im sure. ( 7s/8s) .
But i think the key thing for the first time arround would be a "mazda meet" ( include the local mazda forums).
To be able to get the turnout to cover the track prices.
then after a few tries ( or years ) and if there is enough rotary only registrants , then do a go at it.
Im sure if we invited the toronto mazda club, ottawa mazda club and the montreal mazda club, there would be 40 cars.
(Would also be nice to break down the lapping to 2 time off price points ) one with half a day or 1/4 day at your $ 50-70 range for people to get there toes wet, and the full event for those who want to send all the time at the track .
( maybe even a little show n shine on the side, for those who just want to see and talk about how fast they are , and too bad they have a boost leak at the moment so they cannot drive
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there would be 10 cars from ottawa , montreal im sure. ( 7s/8s) .
But i think the key thing for the first time arround would be a "mazda meet" ( include the local mazda forums).
To be able to get the turnout to cover the track prices.
then after a few tries ( or years ) and if there is enough rotary only registrants , then do a go at it.
Im sure if we invited the toronto mazda club, ottawa mazda club and the montreal mazda club, there would be 40 cars.
(Would also be nice to break down the lapping to 2 time off price points ) one with half a day or 1/4 day at your $ 50-70 range for people to get there toes wet, and the full event for those who want to send all the time at the track .
( maybe even a little show n shine on the side, for those who just want to see and talk about how fast they are , and too bad they have a boost leak at the moment so they cannot drive
)If I can throw in my $.02, I agree that TMP is a great place to hold a meet, especially combined with a Time Attack. It allows the track only cars to come out as well. My only selfish personal concern with TMP is that I can drive that track in first and second. I can only sorta use 3rd once a lap. Its also way too tight for my race car in some of the fiddly bits. I also have the same issues with DDT.
I would suggest Shannonville instead. I really like Shannonville Pro Track better as its more open and it has way faster corners. If you decide to run Shannonville Long Track, there are some great corners that really stress the car and driver. The pit areas are far superior to TMP, its more centrally located for Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal people. It has a better snack bar. Way cooler to meet after the day at a restaurant in Belleville for telling all the lies about how fast you are. The drive out on Highway 2 is very nice and you can make a weekend out of it and drive down to Sandbanks to play on the beaches.
The best thing is that for all the tracks, there is a ton of comparable times set by CASC Time Attack and Regional racers as comparisons so that you can see how you really compare. The best thing I like is that there is just one wall to deal with and it is way less obtrusive than the wall coming on to the front straight at TMP.
Just my suggestion if you want to make this a cool meet.
I would suggest Shannonville instead. I really like Shannonville Pro Track better as its more open and it has way faster corners. If you decide to run Shannonville Long Track, there are some great corners that really stress the car and driver. The pit areas are far superior to TMP, its more centrally located for Toronto, Ottawa and Montreal people. It has a better snack bar. Way cooler to meet after the day at a restaurant in Belleville for telling all the lies about how fast you are. The drive out on Highway 2 is very nice and you can make a weekend out of it and drive down to Sandbanks to play on the beaches.
The best thing is that for all the tracks, there is a ton of comparable times set by CASC Time Attack and Regional racers as comparisons so that you can see how you really compare. The best thing I like is that there is just one wall to deal with and it is way less obtrusive than the wall coming on to the front straight at TMP.
Just my suggestion if you want to make this a cool meet.
10-15-12, 04:58 PM
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Sannonville is to far, I'd hook up with the Sigma group again, keep it a rotary crowd, register very early if you want to track your car or you will be **** out of luck, lots of room for those that just want to park, BBQ etc.
I would be willing to post and host a spring meet if you guys like....FYI we use to get over 80 cars at our meets.
I would be willing to post and host a spring meet if you guys like....FYI we use to get over 80 cars at our meets.
10-15-12, 06:00 PM
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Do it!!!!
Sigma sounds like the best idea.
Doing a full rotary meet or Mazda meet would be awesome, but truly be a lot of work.
I think it's best to do what works.
Sigma sounds like the best idea.
Doing a full rotary meet or Mazda meet would be awesome, but truly be a lot of work.
I think it's best to do what works.
10-18-12, 08:36 PM
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Thanks to Charles for bringing this thread to my attention. Yes this past spring we tried to organized a meet with sigmatimeattack group and the number of people that showed up was embarrassing to say the least.
Having both attended a few stationary meets and cruises, i can honestly say that while i had fun i would not do those again.
While i had a great time organizing the meet with SRTA, their events get sold out rather quickly (and rightly so cause they kick ***) and it would be very difficult to get spots for those who would like to run their cars. And if we do go with sigma, this does not make it strictly rotaries as they get a diverse array of cars.
As proposed by Gabe, id like to have a full track day with everyone. A bit of everything, people who want to just sit/show and shine can do just that and even be able to watch on track action for those who want to do what their cars were built to do.
I even proposed giving people ride alongs to get people involved.
Gabe, I dont know if my car will be done for the spring meet but im 100% in if you need help organizing this. I know we can also get some photographers and media (internet and magazine) to give us some coverage and who knows, if we get good exposure we can make it an annual thing.
Im getting hyped just picturing rx7 of all levels of builds blasting around tmp
I agree with Jim that having strictly rotaries would make this epic
Having both attended a few stationary meets and cruises, i can honestly say that while i had fun i would not do those again.
While i had a great time organizing the meet with SRTA, their events get sold out rather quickly (and rightly so cause they kick ***) and it would be very difficult to get spots for those who would like to run their cars. And if we do go with sigma, this does not make it strictly rotaries as they get a diverse array of cars.
As proposed by Gabe, id like to have a full track day with everyone. A bit of everything, people who want to just sit/show and shine can do just that and even be able to watch on track action for those who want to do what their cars were built to do.
I even proposed giving people ride alongs to get people involved.
Gabe, I dont know if my car will be done for the spring meet but im 100% in if you need help organizing this. I know we can also get some photographers and media (internet and magazine) to give us some coverage and who knows, if we get good exposure we can make it an annual thing.
Im getting hyped just picturing rx7 of all levels of builds blasting around tmp
I agree with Jim that having strictly rotaries would make this epic
10-19-12, 01:28 PM
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If I can add something, while I realize how close TMP is and that the majority of you guys like to go there, it just isn't that great of a track if you have a racecar. If you have bags of power, its fine as you can stomp by guys up the straights. In my car, I do it with handling and this past spring when I did the Sigma Event, I started to get really frustrated sitting behind all kinds of cars through the whole back side of the track. By the third session, I really didn't care if I went out again and handed the car over to a crew guy. That is why I like the bigger tracks like Shannonville and Mosport Big Track there are all kinds of places to pass. At TMP I spend the whole lap buzzing around in second gear with one quick upshift to 3rd going into turn 1. I like a mix of 3rd or 4th gear corners that you take flat with a some slower stuff mixed in to keep you honest.
Is there any way of allowing cars that are fast on the twisty bits to get by without having to wait until the straights at TMP? That would make it cool, but I understand that most of you guys have street cars and wouldn't like to do it. Would it be possible to have an expert open passing group? Selfishly, that would make TMP a lot more fun for me and increase my desire to come out.
Eric
Is there any way of allowing cars that are fast on the twisty bits to get by without having to wait until the straights at TMP? That would make it cool, but I understand that most of you guys have street cars and wouldn't like to do it. Would it be possible to have an expert open passing group? Selfishly, that would make TMP a lot more fun for me and increase my desire to come out.
Eric
10-19-12, 02:52 PM
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I noticed that one of the big benefits of Toronto Motorsports Park's track is that you can see the whole thing from the top of the stands. The lack of elevation changes make the track a little less interesting, but it is much closer to Toronto than the other tracks.
I don't know if this is the case with Shannonville – it certainly isn't at the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park.
I don't know if this is the case with Shannonville – it certainly isn't at the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park.
10-19-12, 05:01 PM
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Just for the record, the club use to do all this.
Back in the day, we had Ottawa cruise, Niagara Cruise, Bruce County Cruise, etc.
We had alot of get togethers and the majority of us have stayed good friends even after they've gotten out of the rotary scene.
Sadly, life always gets in the way. Of the "original" crew, there are only 4 of us now still left with a rotary vehicle. The rest have had to get more "practical" cars due to having getting married, having kids, etc.
It doesn't help we live in a police state now. You break the limit by 50km/h or look like we're "stunt driving", and we lose our vehicles along with all the other penalties that come with it.
Wisdom (old age, maturity), police state, and people selling their rides have taken their toll on the club.
Back in the day, we had Ottawa cruise, Niagara Cruise, Bruce County Cruise, etc.
We had alot of get togethers and the majority of us have stayed good friends even after they've gotten out of the rotary scene.
Sadly, life always gets in the way. Of the "original" crew, there are only 4 of us now still left with a rotary vehicle. The rest have had to get more "practical" cars due to having getting married, having kids, etc.
It doesn't help we live in a police state now. You break the limit by 50km/h or look like we're "stunt driving", and we lose our vehicles along with all the other penalties that come with it.
Wisdom (old age, maturity), police state, and people selling their rides have taken their toll on the club.
Waaaaaay back in the 80s, RX-7s would take over the parking lot at the Texas Longhorn Cafe once a month. 60 to 80 cars. It was cool!
10-19-12, 05:10 PM
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I noticed that one of the big benefits of Toronto Motorsports Park's track is that you can see the whole thing from the top of the stands. The lack of elevation changes make the track a little less interesting, but it is much closer to Toronto than the other tracks.
I don't know if this is the case with Shannonville – it certainly isn't at the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park.
I don't know if this is the case with Shannonville – it certainly isn't at the Canadian Tire Motorsports Park.
What if we were to do 1 spring at TMP and 1 fall at Shanny?
10-19-12, 05:39 PM
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Just for the record, the club use to do all this.
Back in the day, we had Ottawa cruise, Niagara Cruise, Bruce County Cruise, etc.
We had alot of get togethers and the majority of us have stayed good friends even after they've gotten out of the rotary scene.
Sadly, life always gets in the way. Of the "original" crew, there are only 4 of us now still left with a rotary vehicle. The rest have had to get more "practical" cars due to having getting married, having kids, etc.
It doesn't help we live in a police state now. You break the limit by 50km/h or look like we're "stunt driving", and we lose our vehicles along with all the other penalties that come with it.
Wisdom (old age, maturity), police state, and people selling their rides have taken their toll on the club.
Back in the day, we had Ottawa cruise, Niagara Cruise, Bruce County Cruise, etc.
We had alot of get togethers and the majority of us have stayed good friends even after they've gotten out of the rotary scene.
Sadly, life always gets in the way. Of the "original" crew, there are only 4 of us now still left with a rotary vehicle. The rest have had to get more "practical" cars due to having getting married, having kids, etc.
It doesn't help we live in a police state now. You break the limit by 50km/h or look like we're "stunt driving", and we lose our vehicles along with all the other penalties that come with it.
Wisdom (old age, maturity), police state, and people selling their rides have taken their toll on the club.
^ This!
Organizing and believe it or not cost (gas) plus people complaining.
10-19-12, 08:51 PM
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It's very nice that a few of us are showing interest in getting this thing going.
Guys it's all well and good for us to dream but we need to take baby steps before we run!
We need numbers to rent a track.
Lets get someone here from our club who is a member on the rx8 club and see if they show any interest.
Ken, are you a member?
Guys it's all well and good for us to dream but we need to take baby steps before we run!
We need numbers to rent a track.
Lets get someone here from our club who is a member on the rx8 club and see if they show any interest.
Ken, are you a member?
10-20-12, 09:33 AM
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Personally, I see this crowd on the Canadian forum of the RX7 club to be more of a ROTARY club, than a RACECAR club. Sure, some people have track specific cars with rotary engines; they like track events. But some people treat their cars as respectable show pieces. And some do both. We could organize a meet and greet/Show and Shine at a track event, I guess. That should satisfy most interests. Cause when you plan an event at a restaurant or shopping mall, the track guys will be bore. And in previous years, there have been many conflicts/ovelaps of track meets and show'n shine meets.
Personally, I prefer to keep the interest Rotary specific (include RX8s and Cosmos).
If you open it up to other Mazdas, then you are diluting the rotary interest, in my opinion.
But if the race car guys want to have a cheaper track day, then the more the merrier; invite every Mazda model; invite every Japanese make; invite anyone with a car who wants to track it.
...don't they have events like that already???
Ontario is a big province with Toronto in the middle. That means the members are few and far between. I'm not a track guy, but I understand there is a descent track to the west (TMP) and the east (Shannonville) and the north (Mosport). And coming from London, TMP is closest. I'm just as comfortable to drive to Sherway Garden mall for a free meet, then go to TMP and pay $20 just to have a look around. But if the conditions were right, I would drive to Shannonvile from London, once a year.
In the middle of summer, have a show'n shine at Sherway Gardens, and a track day at Mosport? Wishful thinking. It is hard to get a good turn out in the summer; weekends are too cherished for vacation time.
How about a day in the spring, starting a Sherway Gardens at 10am. Have a meet and greet/show&shine until noon. Then grab lunch and do a parade cruise to Cayuga for the afternoon. And in the fall we start at Sherway Gardens and head towards Shannonville?
Comments??
Personally, I prefer to keep the interest Rotary specific (include RX8s and Cosmos).
If you open it up to other Mazdas, then you are diluting the rotary interest, in my opinion.
But if the race car guys want to have a cheaper track day, then the more the merrier; invite every Mazda model; invite every Japanese make; invite anyone with a car who wants to track it.
...don't they have events like that already???
Ontario is a big province with Toronto in the middle. That means the members are few and far between. I'm not a track guy, but I understand there is a descent track to the west (TMP) and the east (Shannonville) and the north (Mosport). And coming from London, TMP is closest. I'm just as comfortable to drive to Sherway Garden mall for a free meet, then go to TMP and pay $20 just to have a look around. But if the conditions were right, I would drive to Shannonvile from London, once a year.
In the middle of summer, have a show'n shine at Sherway Gardens, and a track day at Mosport? Wishful thinking. It is hard to get a good turn out in the summer; weekends are too cherished for vacation time.
How about a day in the spring, starting a Sherway Gardens at 10am. Have a meet and greet/show&shine until noon. Then grab lunch and do a parade cruise to Cayuga for the afternoon. And in the fall we start at Sherway Gardens and head towards Shannonville?
Comments??
10-20-12, 11:34 AM
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I personally do not want to do a static meet again, the reason why I would like to have a track day with everyone is that there is lots of parking areas at TMP for example where we can accomplish both a track day and a "show and shine" day.
whereas you cannot accomodate people who want to track their car in a parking lot and usually those people dont show up.
Parading/convoying with a lot of modified cars is just not pleasant anymore and MTO has been cracking down as of late, and for some reason when meets/cruises are organized online/forums/facebook they get a wind of it somehow and its like shooting fish in a barrel for them.
Heres my thought, we will set a date for a track/meet day and people can come then thats great! if not then thats cool too. We cannot satisfy everyone. If we can get good numbers of people who want to track their cars then that bodes well for a meet as well as TMP will NOT charge people to come in for a meet. So realistically its the best of both worlds.
The things, we can all discuss this until we are blue in the face and still not come to a conclusion. The best we can do is a compromise and set a hard date and go from there.
Also if the people who have only done "parking lot meets" and not have experienced a track day, its a little unfair to rule that out.
and for those with full race rx7 that we trailer.....im sure would look retarded pulling up to a sherway garden meet for sure lol :P
whereas you cannot accomodate people who want to track their car in a parking lot and usually those people dont show up.
Parading/convoying with a lot of modified cars is just not pleasant anymore and MTO has been cracking down as of late, and for some reason when meets/cruises are organized online/forums/facebook they get a wind of it somehow and its like shooting fish in a barrel for them.
Heres my thought, we will set a date for a track/meet day and people can come then thats great! if not then thats cool too. We cannot satisfy everyone. If we can get good numbers of people who want to track their cars then that bodes well for a meet as well as TMP will NOT charge people to come in for a meet. So realistically its the best of both worlds.
The things, we can all discuss this until we are blue in the face and still not come to a conclusion. The best we can do is a compromise and set a hard date and go from there.
Also if the people who have only done "parking lot meets" and not have experienced a track day, its a little unfair to rule that out.
and for those with full race rx7 that we trailer.....im sure would look retarded pulling up to a sherway garden meet for sure lol :P
10-20-12, 02:11 PM
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Agree. Hook up with the sigma events. (Or similar venue.) Those who want to track will track. Those who want to show and shine and do a cruise and show up later at the event etc. Makes the most sense. The only show and shine event I will participate is the DGRR and Bruce County Meet. I'm not into driving around getting attention by the police. Rotaries are loud and there is always driving to aggressively for the street.
I don't think you will ever get enough Rotary vehicles to rent a track?
I don't think you will ever get enough Rotary vehicles to rent a track?
10-20-12, 03:37 PM
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I agree with planning it for the sigma events. As Ken said there are a number of cars that get trailered so there needs to be a track to drive on when they get there or they just wont show...this includes me and I would like to be involved.
10-21-12, 10:23 AM
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Cool, run it with the Sigma guys at TMP. Is there any way that we can have open passing in an expert group at a Sigma Event? If not, then its really only a short test day for me. Show up, run a few laps then go home.
I really enjoy being out with all of the rotary guys as its fun to meet all of you, but the Sigma events are not very beneficial as they run on tracks that I don't race on so the setup and data that I can gather mean very little. At least if I can play and pass people, then it gets to be fun. I also will understand it if that is not possible as both the DDT and TMP are really too narrow to allow open passing. Maybe thats why TMP has not run a sanctioned race as there are only a few places to cleanly pass people.
Maybe I am approaching this from a completely different mindset and don't get the whole "Meet" thing. It might be better for me to just stay doing CASC Race events.
Eric
Eric
I really enjoy being out with all of the rotary guys as its fun to meet all of you, but the Sigma events are not very beneficial as they run on tracks that I don't race on so the setup and data that I can gather mean very little. At least if I can play and pass people, then it gets to be fun. I also will understand it if that is not possible as both the DDT and TMP are really too narrow to allow open passing. Maybe thats why TMP has not run a sanctioned race as there are only a few places to cleanly pass people.
Maybe I am approaching this from a completely different mindset and don't get the whole "Meet" thing. It might be better for me to just stay doing CASC Race events.
Eric
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10-27-12, 02:23 PM
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It looks like almost nonstop rain for the next week. Maybe we'll have a few clear days for meeting and driving once Hurricane Sandy blows out.
10-27-12, 08:37 PM
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I know it was mentioned that 7 owners are generally cheap bastards, and to be honest I fit into this. The problem with most meets for me is that they are so far away. It was easy for me to take part in the BCM since they Bruce county guys are not far from me. What I'm getting at is that these events, while its not expensive for some to get to, is quite expensive for others. Driving a 7 is expensive, even my stock 79 uses enough gas to dent the bank account on the longer trips. Add to this the time it takes for me to get to any event near Toronto or surrounding areas and it gets a bit tough to justfy going out to just see a few cars and spend a bunch on gas and a bunch of time in a car that is not exactly comfortable on long trips. For the events I have been to, I have averaged $100 in gas alone. The sigma event I went to and was on track for, I spent $150 in gas plus lodging and the signup fee.
On the topic of a rotary or mazda only track day, and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this, these days they seem to be dominated by people with modified cars, which can be intimidating to say the least. Add to this that many are afraid to take their stock or nearly stock cars out on the track, such as many of us have, that to them it just doesn't make sense. As long as your car is in good mechanical shape and you don't beat the **** out of it the car is more than likely going to be fine. But everyone thinks you have to drive as fast as possible and they worry about hurting their car. What ever happened to just having fun? Thats exactly what I did at DDT and I didn't worry about being in absolute last place and even though I cooked a bit of grease out of a wheel bearing I noticed the problem soon enough that I was still able to make it home just fine and the car still runs great.
Alright, there is my rant...
I would be up for another Sigma time attack meet next spring, either at TMP or DDT. I will only be on track for DDT though as I would like to get a little more comfortable with the car before tackling TMP. As for Shannonville, simply too far away for a meet and from what I have seen of the track, not suitable for me to be on at this point. Its hard enough on DDT to get a quick lap without being passed constantly.
On the topic of a rotary or mazda only track day, and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying this, these days they seem to be dominated by people with modified cars, which can be intimidating to say the least. Add to this that many are afraid to take their stock or nearly stock cars out on the track, such as many of us have, that to them it just doesn't make sense. As long as your car is in good mechanical shape and you don't beat the **** out of it the car is more than likely going to be fine. But everyone thinks you have to drive as fast as possible and they worry about hurting their car. What ever happened to just having fun? Thats exactly what I did at DDT and I didn't worry about being in absolute last place and even though I cooked a bit of grease out of a wheel bearing I noticed the problem soon enough that I was still able to make it home just fine and the car still runs great.
Alright, there is my rant...
I would be up for another Sigma time attack meet next spring, either at TMP or DDT. I will only be on track for DDT though as I would like to get a little more comfortable with the car before tackling TMP. As for Shannonville, simply too far away for a meet and from what I have seen of the track, not suitable for me to be on at this point. Its hard enough on DDT to get a quick lap without being passed constantly.
10-28-12, 07:50 PM
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AHhaha, the ottawa meets were awesome.
85RP is right too, Mosport as an example,not only do I lose 400 dollars not working the weekend, but it cost me 2 1/2 tanks of gas to get there($150 plus++). plus food, chiropractor bill from sleeping on the ground, etc.
I would love to make it out to more meets, track days, etc, but since I bought my first Rx7, gas has went up 70 cents a liter, and Im not that old.
Another problem is this. The FD's are way too fast on the straights, the Rx-8's dont have the torque, 99% of the fc's can't keep up, and the Fb guys are happy the rear end hasnt rotted off yet. To have a track day, the cars and drivers have to be balanced, and everyone has to want to go 15/10's, because everyones version of a "track day" is different. Even if the older cars had 10k in race equipment, they still cant keep up. The Rx8's handling is there, but is expensive to turbocharge, so barely anyone has done it, and that makes it hard to keep up with the Fd guys.
Its nice to get all hyped up, but to degrade the club as not being active is kinda ridiculous.
We had 1 FREE track day(plus a full racing weekend) and one that cost as little as 20 dollars, less than the cost of a steak dinner, and it was hard to get 25 cars out.
Everyone trys to make it out to the meets, but, we also have lives too, hahahah
AHhaha, the ottawa meets were awesome.
85RP is right too, Mosport as an example,not only do I lose 400 dollars not working the weekend, but it cost me 2 1/2 tanks of gas to get there($150 plus++). plus food, chiropractor bill from sleeping on the ground, etc.
I would love to make it out to more meets, track days, etc, but since I bought my first Rx7, gas has went up 70 cents a liter, and Im not that old.
Another problem is this. The FD's are way too fast on the straights, the Rx-8's dont have the torque, 99% of the fc's can't keep up, and the Fb guys are happy the rear end hasnt rotted off yet. To have a track day, the cars and drivers have to be balanced, and everyone has to want to go 15/10's, because everyones version of a "track day" is different. Even if the older cars had 10k in race equipment, they still cant keep up. The Rx8's handling is there, but is expensive to turbocharge, so barely anyone has done it, and that makes it hard to keep up with the Fd guys.
Its nice to get all hyped up, but to degrade the club as not being active is kinda ridiculous.
We had 1 FREE track day(plus a full racing weekend) and one that cost as little as 20 dollars, less than the cost of a steak dinner, and it was hard to get 25 cars out.
Everyone trys to make it out to the meets, but, we also have lives too, hahahah
10-28-12, 08:05 PM
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No one said that if a rotary track day happened, it would be racing. It was never mentioned that we'd all have to race to be first place.
It's a track day! Run what ya brung and have fun! And it would be unlikely that the slowest and fastest cars would be on the track together, so whether or not you're "keeping up" to Jim's FD or not - who cares?
At Sigma, you're not obligated to race the time attack if you don't want to; just lap for the 6 hours beforehand! People are there to teach and give rides if you want.
Why would it matter if your car is stock and others are modified?
Also just because we hold it at a track, doesn't mean you HAVE to go out on the track. It's a show & shine also.
Here's my rant: STOP BITCHING AND COME OUT IF YOU WANT TO. We're not forcing you.
We're going to set a date and leave it there. No more moving dates around to accomodate where everyone wants it to be.
If gas is too expensive we'll see ya never! If you wanna save over the winter and budget for a $300-$500 good-time rev-happy-rotary weekend then we'll see ya with an open barbecue and good people!
It's only once a friggen' year so far.
... no offense of course lol
It's a track day! Run what ya brung and have fun! And it would be unlikely that the slowest and fastest cars would be on the track together, so whether or not you're "keeping up" to Jim's FD or not - who cares?
At Sigma, you're not obligated to race the time attack if you don't want to; just lap for the 6 hours beforehand! People are there to teach and give rides if you want.
Why would it matter if your car is stock and others are modified?
Also just because we hold it at a track, doesn't mean you HAVE to go out on the track. It's a show & shine also.
Here's my rant: STOP BITCHING AND COME OUT IF YOU WANT TO. We're not forcing you.
We're going to set a date and leave it there. No more moving dates around to accomodate where everyone wants it to be.
If gas is too expensive we'll see ya never! If you wanna save over the winter and budget for a $300-$500 good-time rev-happy-rotary weekend then we'll see ya with an open barbecue and good people!
It's only once a friggen' year so far.
...
no offense of course lol
Last edited by CS13B; 10-28-12 at 08:34 PM.
10-28-12, 08:48 PM
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I agree. For me, track day means driving well and improving my skills in whatever car I bring... it doesn't matter what other people are doing. Safety is the first priority and everything else comes after.
10-28-12, 09:15 PM
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Charles as I have mentioned before, if you and Ken would like to get together and plan this event, let me know.
I have already mentioned that I will sponsor the lunch (BBQ) for the track meet.😜
I should be able to get T-shirts & screen printing done at cost to commemorate the day as well. I am sure someone on the forum can help with a design/layout for the t-shirts.
Lets make this happen guys!
I have already mentioned that I will sponsor the lunch (BBQ) for the track meet.😜
I should be able to get T-shirts & screen printing done at cost to commemorate the day as well. I am sure someone on the forum can help with a design/layout for the t-shirts.
Lets make this happen guys!
10-28-12, 09:29 PM
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love the braaaap
No one said that if a rotary track day happened, it would be racing. It was never mentioned that we'd all have to race to be first place.
It's a track day! Run what ya brung and have fun! And it would be unlikely that the slowest and fastest cars would be on the track together, so whether or not you're "keeping up" to Jim's FD or not - who cares?
At Sigma, you're not obligated to race the time attack if you don't want to; just lap for the 6 hours beforehand! People are there to teach and give rides if you want.
Why would it matter if your car is stock and others are modified?
Also just because we hold it at a track, doesn't mean you HAVE to go out on the track. It's a show & shine also.
Here's my rant: STOP BITCHING AND COME OUT IF YOU WANT TO. We're not forcing you.
We're going to set a date and leave it there. No more moving dates around to accomodate where everyone wants it to be.
If gas is too expensive we'll see ya never! If you wanna save over the winter and budget for a $300-$500 good-time rev-happy-rotary weekend then we'll see ya with an open barbecue and good people!
It's only once a friggen' year so far.
... no offense of course lol
It's a track day! Run what ya brung and have fun! And it would be unlikely that the slowest and fastest cars would be on the track together, so whether or not you're "keeping up" to Jim's FD or not - who cares?
At Sigma, you're not obligated to race the time attack if you don't want to; just lap for the 6 hours beforehand! People are there to teach and give rides if you want.
Why would it matter if your car is stock and others are modified?
Also just because we hold it at a track, doesn't mean you HAVE to go out on the track. It's a show & shine also.
Here's my rant: STOP BITCHING AND COME OUT IF YOU WANT TO. We're not forcing you.
We're going to set a date and leave it there. No more moving dates around to accomodate where everyone wants it to be.
If gas is too expensive we'll see ya never! If you wanna save over the winter and budget for a $300-$500 good-time rev-happy-rotary weekend then we'll see ya with an open barbecue and good people!
It's only once a friggen' year so far.
...
no offense of course lolI wasn't trying to imply that a track day would be racing. I was at the first Sigma event at DDT this year and had a blast. I was simply trying to lay out some of the concerns/opinions I have about the possibility of a rotary or mazda only track day and how others may think about it, mostly geared toward why it wouldn't work, as much as I think it would be nice.