HaloGirlAsh117

Hey everyone im workin on building my first bona fide drift car and id like to get some reliable info in the 88 NA. RX7 . ive been finding alot of mixed opinions with regards to quality and maintenance. hearing that they catch fire or are crazy expensive to rebuild etc. id appreciate any help anyone can give. thanks <3

13BbackFire

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Hey, awesome another fc build I see!!! also for drifting I would just do a v swap or a 1jz 2jz swap or a nice turbo 13b!

thewird

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You'd have to put some really shitty tires on the back to drift well in a stock N/A. But as far as maintenance for an n/a just change the oil regularly with something relatively thick (anything between 10w-40 and 20w-50 since your going to be beating on it all day) and beef up the cooling. RPM doesn't really hurt these engines so redline to your hearts content as long as you got good oil pressure and keep the temperatures in check.

thewird

Redshft

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Shoot fire, yes. Catch fire?
Anyway, as said by others, NA's are pretty bulletproof, but, I don't see how it's going to have the power to drift with.

Mazda RX-7 EFINI TYPE

Anything is possible with the right setup, power is not a requirement for drifting, it's a requirement for power sliding. It's obviously harder with less power, but far from impossible. It's all about your suspension/tire setup & using the weight, speed and inertia of your car properly. Seen a guy use a stock FB 12a to drift, don't see why you couldn't do it in an N/A 13B. Plus, if you get some economy tires (& some mad camber), losing traction wouldn't be all that dufficult.

2Fierce

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For competitive or leisure use?

CSCS, or just topp drift days? Do you have any drift experience? Why the fc?

sctRota

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40+ psi in rear and 7-8k all day long. If you are that concerned about fires just remove the fuel pulsation dampener. There are tons of write ups I suppose. If you need help feel free to pm anyone here lol

HaloGirlAsh117

ive learned that the fc rx7's (because of the engine being mounted at the rear of the engine bay) has a very low level of polar movement and thus makes it prety prone to snap oversteer after 42*s. also i found that the steering angle is only around 35-40* unlike a 200sx at 40-45* (though i really hate the body style of those sx's dispite the double wishbone suspension and stock high toe and camber adjustability)

As for the intensity of my drifting, i plan on moving to japan. probably gunma or tochigi prefecture. so its guna be street and open track competition on the down hill touge most likely in the middle of the night.

Before i take the car there im hoping to have it build to tier II maybe tier III

catback and flow through
downpipe
wastegate
ecu replacement
engine rebuild
tri-forced air intakes
amped oil cooling
performance lsd
short throw
quick reving flywheel

maybe a couple other things but thats most of everything im hoping to have for japan

ill learn how to push the car and myself to its absolute limit after each (or small set) of upgrades.


PS: to awnser why the fc. its not final. but ive developed a love for that car for some reason and id much rather have a steeper learning curve then a soft one.

Personal info.. a 19 year old girl whos grown up in the underground street racing and drift scene of markham. i used to have a Right drive 6s manual toyota celica with 235 hp. got so good at drifting that i could get it within 3 inches of both front and back at the same time drifting through the pillars of underground parking lots.

Redshft

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In your first post you indicated NA RX7, and in your last post you indicate planned mods including downpipe and waste gate. I'm guessing you actually mean North American, not naturally aspirated?

What are "tri-forced air intakes?" The only tri-force I know is from Legend of Zelda, and I don't think that's what you mean.

$lacker

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Is this real life?

Either this is a joke or someone has seen waaay too many episodes of Initial D

HaloGirlAsh117

no i mean naturally asperated (turbos cause bad turbo lag and a sketchy rear end on the downhill) and by tri-forced air i mean 3 septate forced cold air intakes (eg front rad and either sides of the front bumper where the air would typically go to the brakes)

and my reply to $laker. is yes. im actually building this. and no ive only seen like a couple parts of episodes of inital d. i fell in love with drift after i took a month trip to japan with some friends who moved here from there. also growing up around street racers probably didnt help.

and out of curiosity, what makes u think ive seen to much inital d. cant i have a passion for drift with out that or is that a problem.

rx7racerca

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FC RX-7s are prone to snap oversteer with the stock DTSS bushings at the rear, but I don't think snap oversteer is in any way related to the fact the car has a low polar moment of momentum - just the opposite, in fact. Low polar moment of inertia refers to concentration of mass close to the yaw centre of the car, which in turn means the car is responsive to steering inputs and will readily change direction. Contrast that with a car with a high polar moment of momentum - a 80's-90's vintage Camaro/Firebird or Mustang, with relatively long wheelbases, and heavy components (a big engine overhung the front axle, and a heavy live rear axle); such a car is reluctant to respond to steering input, but once it is rotating, it is also reluctant to stop doing so - those large masses, far from the yaw centre, carry a lot of inertia that doesn't want to stop yawing. It's easier to get a low polar moment car sliding - but also easier to catch it or balance it - I would think
The short of it - get rid of the DTSS bushings in the rear. Then enjoy sliding your low polar moment car - that's a good thing. I do echo the sentiments that NA may not have enough power to drift well, but a stiff rear anti-roll bar and relatively stiff springs and shocks relative to the front may help (the opposite of what most people tracking these cars do). I would think you'd want a S4 NA LSD (that actually works) to help keep the rear going, or even better, swap in a Miata torsen from the 1995-05 cars (they're popular though, so unless you come across a salvage yard find, you'll likely pay a large part of what one costs new from Mazdaspeed.

2Fierce

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Do you know what a topp drift day or CSCS racing even is...

if not, go attend either event and plug into the immense and very loving drift community we already have here.

I'm really trying to be nice.

HaloGirlAsh117

yes i kno what they are. but im not interested in staying in canada as it is. drifting aside. to top it off the roads here are no challenge and the tracks are retarded expensive. i dont care for helmets. and racing harness are just a convenience for me (g-force tolerance) the only place i can have even a bit of fun is where the course is very tight and presents something new to me. all my racing experience has been in underground parking lots, mall lots with private roads, dockyards, industrial parks. etc. when i tried out a track day i was bored out of my skull. so for me the only place i really wana go is japan.

23Racer

You know what, a bunch of people have offered you help and you just totally dissed their whole scene. On track stuff can be pretty cheap, under a 100 bucks. If you cant afford that then i dont know why you are even modifying your car. Shannonville with the chicane is as tight as you could want, twisty fast and most importantly safe, however you just seem to be trolling for comments so let me offer you something to see if are real, a troll or just completely uninformed and closed minded. On the 10th I am going to be at TMP and I will offer you 5 track laps in my race car to allow you to experience what being in a real race car is like. TMP is a slower track and you only get up to about 180 km. If you actually have some skill and are quick we can work something out to get you on track at CTMP (Mosport). There you will only be able to get to 225 - 230 km.

I expect that you will decline, but come out and prove me wrong. I would be delighted if you came out and experienced real speed and skill situations.

Eric

_NGL

TOPP has an event tomorrow
CSCS has an event on the 10th
Driftops is cancelled until further notice

Be warned, building a drift car can (and will) get very, very expensive. I help run CSCS drifting and the drivers will all tell you that this sport is expensive. So I'd hope you have deep pockets.

DT racer

Straight shot - Nice

HaloGirlAsh117

i didnt mean do any of you offend you. and id love to take you up on your offer but i dont have a car or any way to get there. (i rely on public transit)

and this is a budget build, ie im restoring and selling off 2 other cars i was given to pay for the purchase of the base rx7. then slaving 5 days a week to make the cash to upgrade and restore the fc on the weekends. (think mighty car mods style)

to NGL: thanks for the offer and id love to... if i had any of getting there (legaly)
and its not that i think less of tracks. i just strive for the risk factor of roads that i can only see whats just in front and have no idea whats to come.

HaloGirlAsh117

also thanks to everyone for replying on the. if i pissed any of you off im sorry. but believe me i actually do appreciate the time you've spent to reply.

_NGL

Read this thread again, definitely got trolled.

misterstyx69

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D is my First Initial..(so..am I "initial D"??..hmm..discuss..privately..lol!)

I always wanted to drift but as it stands I don't think I'll ever see that opportunity.
I wish you the best in trying to at least get your dream going and hope that you can achieve it.

and it may sound funny But I still do not know what Initial D is!~(seriously..sort of don't care!)

23Racer

I thought she (?) was a troll from the beginning. Just reading through her posts were very interesting as to where she was drifting, docklands in Toronto? Drifting 3 inches from the pillars and walls of a building. Wastegates and downpipes on an NA car. Like there is this big underground drifting community in Toronto. Sounded a lot like someone who has played a lot of video games trying to talk the talk.

I liked how everyone here was willing to give her(?) the benefit of the doubt and answered her questions logically and with care. I was pretty sure that it wasn't a real situation, so that's why I offered her (?) a chance to run in my car this weekend. If she (?) was real she would have jumped at the chance. As it is, she (?) can only get around on a bus due to finances. How the freak does she (?) think she is going to be able to afford to build a top quality drift car? How is she (?) going to be able to move to Japan to pursue the dream of super tight drifting, inches apart, tires screaming, wind blowing your hair back, cool images of yourself giving the peace sign out the door while hundreds of your closest buddies cheer and weep watching your mastery of the writhing python of driftori mastery.

Girl (?), if you are real and you actually want to experience a real racecar, let me know about Sunday. If you can get to Oakville by 8:30 in the morning, possible with the Go Train, I will bring you down with the guys to TMP and you can see what real racing is all about. If you want, you can even drift my car through a few corners to show off your mad skills. Who knows, you may have amazing car control and kick all of our asses in the car and then I would be interested in supporting you to go racing. That shouldn't be too much to ask of someone with speed in your blood.

Eric

Eric

HaloGirlAsh117

23Racer please understand that im not claiming to be some mad drifter, if have my good moments and my bad of course. my last car (2003 toyota celica )
ended up totaled in a 4 car accident on my way to school and since then i havent had the money to get another.

As for rear wheel its a totally new experience (i belive i stated this before) ive only drifted front in tight quarters

if your interested as to exactly where i went to learn.
p-mall underground lot
markham mall top lot and semi-underground
wonderland lot
kitchener waterloo dirt roads in nav-rallies

as for how i plan to fund it. i work 6 days a week from 10-10 in an auto shop and and working with my best friend to build it the car over the next 6 mths or so. (it needs to be my daily driver) and through youtube channel donations (think mighty car mods style build)

belive me if i had a way to be there on race day id do so in a heart beat. and i never said theres a big u nderground community. when i went drifting it was with friends (or sorda friends)
i stoped cus the tickets broke me to pennyless.

as for sunday. my boss has asked me to come fix his car (hes not the type of person u say no to and keep your job). Yes u can say its true id love to learn to master the drift but thats not somthing i ever expect to do in 2-3 years but rather 10-15+. I may come across as being unrealistic but really i kno its guna take every penny and scrap of effort to make my dream come true in 3-5 years (moving to japan)

2Fierce

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Go to school /end thread.

pfsantos

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PM me. We'll go for some bbt (bubble tea for the perverts wondering) and we'll figure out if the FC is ur best bet. If u have a crazy ninja or asian gang bf, please ignore this post and accept my apologies.

Not taking a chance on this being a troll thread