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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Bought a civic :(

I want to get on the track asap and with the amount of cash the 7 is costing me (money I dont have) it just makes more sense to work with an EG6, even if I am using the car I hate most.

Anyway, I picked up a parts car EG6 and the thing is it has been sitting, all the fluids were drained out of it. Is there any routine I should do? or use any special fluids to bring it back to life? Or do you guys just reccomend any specific fluids? It has a regualr POS D16 motor in it.

Another problem, I bough the civic from a tow truck driver, the owner couldnt pay the bill so he signed over his ownership. He lost the key. I had a key made at honda but it doesnt work in the ignition, the steering is locked, I cant move the car properly on my driveway. any tips on picking/breaking the ignition?

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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it is apparent that you have angered the rx7 gods....
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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Another problem, I bough the civic from a tow truck driver, the owner couldnt pay the bill so he signed over his ownership. He lost the key.

Is that even legal?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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yes..It is called a Mechanic's lien.As far as the key issue..What I would do is swap the column out .If the key you had made doesn't fit,you may be better off to go and get a Junker column ,take a half hour .swap the column out and Voila!..new steering column,with different Key.(also good in case Old owner comes back!).Now you can Start your car and Lock it too.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:33 PM
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Take the column apart, remove the lock plate, and convert to switch and starter button.

Too bad about the civic. You should have bought a Protege/323.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:17 PM
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Take the column apart, remove the lock plate, and convert to switch and starter button.

Too bad about the civic. You should have bought a Protege/323.
I will try this first as it wont cost me any money. I would have loved a protege or 323, but parts for a civic a plentiful and a dime a dozen, its the only way a 17 year old can get on the track it seems . I'll be back with a seven, one day...
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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on the 7 u just swap out the ignition assembly, i have no idea if that possible with all cars, but that would be the easiest thing to do.
OH little more difficult but i know u can use the key number, the one u had made, u can change the tumblers inside the ignition assembly, but either way u might have to buy new tumblers or find anoher ignition assembly and hope it has enuff of the right piece to make one complete ignition to fit ur key.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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on the 7 u just swap out the ignition assembly, i have no idea if that possible with all cars, but that would be the easiest thing to do.
OH little more difficult but i know u can use the key number, the one u had made, u can change the tumblers inside the ignition assembly, but either way u might have to buy new tumblers or find anoher ignition assembly and hope it has enuff of the right piece to make one complete ignition to fit ur key.
thought of doing something similar. I can pick basically any household lock, but cars dont use cylinders (i guess thats what you were referring to when you said tumblers). Cars use wafer locks, same concept, but thin sheets of metal instead of cylinders, they are supposed to be harder. I have never tried it, plus I dont have the proper tools, but wouldnt hurt to try. I will just try removing it if that doesn't work (probably wont).
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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" Bought a civic" ...."I THINK I JUST THREW UP A LITTLE" LOL j/k i hate SHITVICS TOO but i do like the eg's those are the best ones imo. if u got anything else i would have been making fun of you a lot more.lol
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 02:50 PM
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Now now - civics are excellent cars. A perfect little economical grocery-getter.

Not exactly the sort of thing that gets an enthusiast's blood racing, though, pardon the pun
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Old Apr 5, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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yeah, im my opinion I think the EG looks the best as well. yes, I hate civics as well, but when it all comes down to it, they are cheap as ****, same goes with their parts, and very cheap on gas too. At 17 its the way to go , and I need a roomier back seat .

damn weather, I thought the long weekend was going to be nice like it was earlier in the week so I could solve the ignition problem. is it just me? its freakin' snowing in April!

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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Ha, it's snowed every day this week in Calgary, and the temp has yet to crack 0C in April! Today it got to -3, best so far. And I insured the 7, sure it would be decent for this weekend. Oh well...
Civics are economical and decent little performers - see lots of them out for autocross where light weight and good suspension geometry serve well, tho' not so much as a full-fledged track car.
If fluids have been drained, the main question is how long did it sit? If it's sat for months, I'd recommend removing the plugs, squirt a little oil in the cylinders, and turn the engine over by hand with the plugs still out (socket on the crank pulley) - that way you make sure nothing's rusted or seized before cranking it to fire. If there's gas in the tank, might want to drain it and fill with something fresh - again, if it's sat for months, with no fuel stabilizer added, the gas may have gone bad. A fresh fuel filter is also a good idea, and check that brake parts aren't seized. Bleeding the brakes can be a good idea - few people ever do it.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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lol, earlier this week it was so hot I couldnt stand wearing my jacket outside, or even the t shirt under it! thanks for the advice on how to get the car running. I guess I will just take every precaution and do what you said, but this is just a parts car, though im sure it runs.

I tried hot wiring it today, I got as far as completing two circuits so that I was able to use all the electronics in the car, couldn't figure out the wiring combination for the starter (last circuit), and didnt want to take the risk of shorting it. So i'll try and find the wiring circuit combination somwhere on the internet, unless anyone here knows it? I can post a pic if that would help. So I will probably just have some switches and a button to start the car, cheap way to fix it for now.

Cousin of mine has fenders and bumper (he's "upgrading" to ricer parts), so all I need is a hood . I think I am going to get this car running for under 200 dollars, lol. Funny thing I noticed today though, he also has an older generation civic hatch (the one previous the EG), and that car is stock, and it is BLOODY fast, does anyone know why? are all those hatches like that? it has 275 on the odo and all he did was recently change the head gasket. I am confused shitless :S.

Another thing I find funny, tokico and tein dont make their top of the line struts for the fc, but they do for the EG and EK? and even the older generation, wtf? Thats an inult to the FC. Anybody else notice that?

hope the weather gets better so I could get this done.

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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:36 PM
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well i have only ever worked on a few cars, but i can tell you that Civics, especially the older models, are damn easy to work on. and yeah, aftermarket parts are plentiful and thus also cheaper than most cars.
that's probably the reason that you might also find greater availability of parts, like the tokico/tein struts.
if you are on a budget and are looking for suspension, a lot of people who track Civics have decent success with Ground Control coilover sleeves and good shocks, like Koni or KYB.
you will probably want to ditch that D16 if you want performance engine-wise. i'm not quite sure what a good DOHC b-series engine goes for these days.

and i doubt that most stock civic hatches can be considered "fast". some of them came with b16 engines, but most of those weren't sold in our market.
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Old Apr 6, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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yeah, the D16 has to go, but not yet, suspension setup and tires are my priority, then safety equipment and lastly the engine, as im not sure what spec I want to build the car to yet. I know those civics arent considered fast, but for some reason, his flies, I will try and get a 0-100 time the next time im over there.

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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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the civic's security is an insult to automobiles, all I did was screw off the ignition end and turned it, two screws, took me less than 30 seconds :|. Also, I wanted to see if the engine would turn over, but to my surprise, it started right up! so I turned it off right away. A running car for 150, cant go wrong, body is almost mint other than the front end . This car should make it to the track days!
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