The 2nd worst feeling in your car
04-08-11, 07:38 AM
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The 2nd worst feeling in your car
well i will say the worst is popping your motor, the second worst has to be thinking you popped it.
Driving on some backroad this morning, i notice my second turbo not acting right, so i keep a close eye on all my guages and do a little testing. It was acting normal and thought to myself that im just a little paranoid. So i keep crusing till i get a chance to drop it in third. After a nice downshift I start to take off, watching all my gauges for anything not normal, as well as keep an eye on the power fc commander to check things.
*car dies*
I think I must have popped it. So I pull over and start checking things out. I see nothing smoking and nothing out of the ordiniary. I keep looking, try turning it over, and notice that there is no power to my power fc, ahhh, small sigh of relief. I do some more digging and see my egi fuse has crapped out. At the end of it all, it was as simple as a wire shorting from my msd ignition. Looks like I have some work to do this weekend. But I still think I came out not bad, only took me 25 min to have it running and be at work, my heart still hurt a little though.
Anyone else have ner heartbreak stories with their 7`s
Driving on some backroad this morning, i notice my second turbo not acting right, so i keep a close eye on all my guages and do a little testing. It was acting normal and thought to myself that im just a little paranoid. So i keep crusing till i get a chance to drop it in third. After a nice downshift I start to take off, watching all my gauges for anything not normal, as well as keep an eye on the power fc commander to check things.
*car dies*
I think I must have popped it. So I pull over and start checking things out. I see nothing smoking and nothing out of the ordiniary. I keep looking, try turning it over, and notice that there is no power to my power fc, ahhh, small sigh of relief. I do some more digging and see my egi fuse has crapped out. At the end of it all, it was as simple as a wire shorting from my msd ignition. Looks like I have some work to do this weekend. But I still think I came out not bad, only took me 25 min to have it running and be at work, my heart still hurt a little though.
Anyone else have ner heartbreak stories with their 7`s
04-08-11, 11:30 AM
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In 2009 while down in DGRR I had a fuel failure which required a rewire to the fuel pump to get going which I used a thin wire since it was all I could find. Well I was beating it up and down at the dragon. We stopped at the bottom for some reason and stayed their half an hour or so. After we left we all gunned it and it went WOT. So thats when it happened. I heard detonation for the first time in my life LOUD and CLEAR at WOT (to me it sounds like one of those automated sprinklers on steroids, ksch ksch ksch) with 16 PSi of boost and glancing at the wideband I saw ~14 AFR. I instantly assumed oh **** there goes my whole motor and turbo and all the hard parts associated thanks to my ceramic seals. I let off and pulled over and then was confused. My car was still idling normal o.O. I revved it and it seemed normal. I drove back to the cabin and then checked it again. Everything seemed fine and all I did was raise the RPM screw a bit for idle which I assumed at the time was related to the low air pressure of the mountains (this part is important).
When I got back to Toronto, I never had to lower the idle screw but I never gave it a second thought. Anyway, I ran the car all season at the track and daily drove it as normal. Come winter I decided to rebuild it since I wanted to change the seals from 1 piece ceramic to 2 piece ceramic (there was nothing wrong with the motor as far as I was concerned). When I opened the motor up, we found a little surprise. One of the ceramic seals had snapped CLEANLY in half in sort of an S shape at the middle of the apex seal. Nothing was damaged on the motor at all. I had put about 15k on the motor, most of it being hard track time, since the detonation event. Since then I'm a firm believer in ceramic apex seals that they can withstand great abuse before they go.
And yah, when I started back up with the new motor I had to lower the idle screw.
Even though my motor was technically blown, I was able to run it unaffected kicking some *** at the track
. That was the year I set my Mosport lap time too ^_^ (hoping to break it this year though).
thewird
When I got back to Toronto, I never had to lower the idle screw but I never gave it a second thought. Anyway, I ran the car all season at the track and daily drove it as normal. Come winter I decided to rebuild it since I wanted to change the seals from 1 piece ceramic to 2 piece ceramic (there was nothing wrong with the motor as far as I was concerned). When I opened the motor up, we found a little surprise. One of the ceramic seals had snapped CLEANLY in half in sort of an S shape at the middle of the apex seal. Nothing was damaged on the motor at all. I had put about 15k on the motor, most of it being hard track time, since the detonation event. Since then I'm a firm believer in ceramic apex seals that they can withstand great abuse before they go.
And yah, when I started back up with the new motor I had to lower the idle screw.
Even though my motor was technically blown, I was able to run it unaffected kicking some *** at the track
. That was the year I set my Mosport lap time too ^_^ (hoping to break it this year though).thewird
04-08-11, 11:31 AM
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Worst feeling I've had in one of my RX's is probably coming down the back-straight in my race car and the tail-shaft on the transmission cracked dumping the fluid onto the exhaust filling the car with smoke. A cabin full of smoke from an unknown source while traveling towards the fastest corner on the track sucks.
04-08-11, 11:37 AM
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Hahah dayumm i woulda been shitting myself. It was tough for me to listen to the car cause I had my music way up enjoying a song. I couldnt hear the noise it made and at first thought I had definitely broke something bad, but I was lucky, this time. I think you are a little luckier though
In 2009 while down in DGRR I had a fuel failure which required a rewire to the fuel pump to get going which I used a thin wire since it was all I could find. Well I was beating it up and down at the dragon. We stopped at the bottom for some reason and stayed their half an hour or so. After we left we all gunned it and it went WOT. So thats when it happened. I heard detonation for the first time in my life LOUD and CLEAR at WOT (to me it sounds like one of those automated sprinklers on steroids, ksch ksch ksch) with 16 PSi of boost and glancing at the wideband I saw ~14 AFR. I instantly assumed oh **** there goes my whole motor and turbo and all the hard parts associated thanks to my ceramic seals. I let off and pulled over and then was confused. My car was still idling normal o.O. I revved it and it seemed normal. I drove back to the cabin and then checked it again. Everything seemed fine and all I did was raise the RPM screw a bit for idle which I assumed at the time was related to the low air pressure of the mountains (this part is important).
When I got back to Toronto, I never had to lower the idle screw but I never gave it a second thought. Anyway, I ran the car all season at the track and daily drove it as normal. Come winter I decided to rebuild it since I wanted to change the seals from 1 piece ceramic to 2 piece ceramic (there was nothing wrong with the motor as far as I was concerned). When I opened the motor up, we found a little surprise. One of the ceramic seals had snapped CLEANLY in half in sort of an S shape at the middle of the apex seal. Nothing was damaged on the motor at all. I had put about 15k on the motor, most of it being hard track time, since the detonation event. Since then I'm a firm believer in ceramic apex seals that they can withstand great abuse before they go.
And yah, when I started back up with the new motor I had to lower the idle screw.
Even though my motor was technically blown, I was able to run it unaffected kicking some *** at the track. That was the year I set my Mosport lap time too ^_^ (hoping to break it this year though).
thewird
When I got back to Toronto, I never had to lower the idle screw but I never gave it a second thought. Anyway, I ran the car all season at the track and daily drove it as normal. Come winter I decided to rebuild it since I wanted to change the seals from 1 piece ceramic to 2 piece ceramic (there was nothing wrong with the motor as far as I was concerned). When I opened the motor up, we found a little surprise. One of the ceramic seals had snapped CLEANLY in half in sort of an S shape at the middle of the apex seal. Nothing was damaged on the motor at all. I had put about 15k on the motor, most of it being hard track time, since the detonation event. Since then I'm a firm believer in ceramic apex seals that they can withstand great abuse before they go.
And yah, when I started back up with the new motor I had to lower the idle screw.
Even though my motor was technically blown, I was able to run it unaffected kicking some *** at the track
. That was the year I set my Mosport lap time too ^_^ (hoping to break it this year though).thewird
04-08-11, 12:21 PM
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My 83 was rotted, but I was 17 and didnt give a ****.
It had been making a clunking noise from the rear suspension for a month or so....
I was driving south on the 400 at 120 Km/h, when there was a loud bang and scrape noise. The *** end of the car was sorta fishtailing and there was a lot of tire smoke. I managed to get it across 2 lanes and pull over.
Turned out that my rear suspension linkage rotted off the frame, bracket, bushing and a chunk of rotted floor. Looking back, I dont think I was scared, but to have rear-steer at that speed was a little freaky!
It had been making a clunking noise from the rear suspension for a month or so....
I was driving south on the 400 at 120 Km/h, when there was a loud bang and scrape noise. The *** end of the car was sorta fishtailing and there was a lot of tire smoke. I managed to get it across 2 lanes and pull over.
Turned out that my rear suspension linkage rotted off the frame, bracket, bushing and a chunk of rotted floor. Looking back, I dont think I was scared, but to have rear-steer at that speed was a little freaky!
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04-08-11, 12:52 PM
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haha thats too funny. Well it seems there is a greater problem now 
I notice a richer afr and MUCH more knock, dammit. even at idle and low speeds, hitting knock in the mid range on the power fc at about 60-80, and floating around 30 at idle.... does anyone have a slight clue as to why this may be?? possible that I wrecked my MSD? electrial is not really my thing, but I take good direction haha if anyone has some clues to help me out that would be appreciated.
I notice a richer afr and MUCH more knock, dammit. even at idle and low speeds, hitting knock in the mid range on the power fc at about 60-80, and floating around 30 at idle.... does anyone have a slight clue as to why this may be?? possible that I wrecked my MSD? electrial is not really my thing, but I take good direction haha if anyone has some clues to help me out that would be appreciated.
04-08-11, 01:57 PM
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thats makes me want to check my rear end tonight haha.
My 83 was rotted, but I was 17 and didnt give a ****.
It had been making a clunking noise from the rear suspension for a month or so....
I was driving south on the 400 at 120 Km/h, when there was a loud bang and scrape noise. The *** end of the car was sorta fishtailing and there was a lot of tire smoke. I managed to get it across 2 lanes and pull over.
Turned out that my rear suspension linkage rotted off the frame, bracket, bushing and a chunk of rotted floor. Looking back, I dont think I was scared, but to have rear-steer at that speed was a little freaky!
It had been making a clunking noise from the rear suspension for a month or so....
I was driving south on the 400 at 120 Km/h, when there was a loud bang and scrape noise. The *** end of the car was sorta fishtailing and there was a lot of tire smoke. I managed to get it across 2 lanes and pull over.
Turned out that my rear suspension linkage rotted off the frame, bracket, bushing and a chunk of rotted floor. Looking back, I dont think I was scared, but to have rear-steer at that speed was a little freaky!
04-12-11, 05:33 PM
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Well, unfortunately two days after the wire shorting incident, I blew an apex seal on the rear rotor . »****, I was lucky with the short, but im thinking it may have had some help in making the apex seal break. Sucks too, I have 110+ compression on the front rotor and 110, 45, 45 on the rear. I not sure exactly what I want to do... Either get another 13b-re short black that is known to be good and swap it in while I port and rebuild the one that is blown now, or if I just rebuild it right now... either way, it needs to be rebuilt. Crappy way to start the season off. I will definitely be redoing much of the harness wiring while the engine is out, as well as painting and cleaning up the engine bay.
Please feel free to share your parts preferences in terms of rebuilding, as I will very soon be on the market for it all.
. »****, I was lucky with the short, but im thinking it may have had some help in making the apex seal break. Sucks too, I have 110+ compression on the front rotor and 110, 45, 45 on the rear. I not sure exactly what I want to do... Either get another 13b-re short black that is known to be good and swap it in while I port and rebuild the one that is blown now, or if I just rebuild it right now... either way, it needs to be rebuilt. Crappy way to start the season off. I will definitely be redoing much of the harness wiring while the engine is out, as well as painting and cleaning up the engine bay. Please feel free to share your parts preferences in terms of rebuilding, as I will very soon be on the market for it all.
04-13-11, 12:05 AM
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the 2nd worst feeling was this one time where i really really had to take a dump,
and the vibrations and stiff ride did not help the situation
although the worst was when i was going about 200 kmph and the 7 completely shut off, power, engine, and power came back, but engine was still dead.
pulled over, saw the PFC commander wasn't turned on, clearly ECU fail, then i was relieved, very similar to OP
and the vibrations and stiff ride did not help the situation
although the worst was when i was going about 200 kmph and the 7 completely shut off, power, engine, and power came back, but engine was still dead.
pulled over, saw the PFC commander wasn't turned on, clearly ECU fail, then i was relieved, very similar to OP
04-13-11, 03:17 AM
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1st worst experience: Summer of 2009 I was taking the highway(410) exit that would lead to my house progressively downshifting and then "bang bang pop!". A friend (bwek) who was following me was indicating that a large amount of smoke was coming from my car. I started to notice it coming from the hood and seeping into the cabin. Get out of the car and lifted the hood and a bunch of smoke rose up like some ritual cermonial thing. Anyways, being optimistic I hoped putting oil in the motor would help (which it sort of did). I was able to drive it home (had to keep revs above 3500 at all times), not without attention from everyone driving around me. Turns out that my rear rotor blew.
2nd: this one is actually a bit more scary. During an auto-x event in 2007, I lost power steering mid turn AND rear driver side wheel snapped the wheel nuts off and came off. Not cool.
Same car for both stories. That FC had soo much character. I loved it despite everything wrong with it... Buts that a completely different set of stories.
2nd: this one is actually a bit more scary. During an auto-x event in 2007, I lost power steering mid turn AND rear driver side wheel snapped the wheel nuts off and came off. Not cool.
Same car for both stories. That FC had soo much character. I loved it despite everything wrong with it... Buts that a completely different set of stories.
04-13-11, 08:36 AM
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yeah my rear rotor is toast right now too, still hold a solid idle though, and drove well enough to think it was maybe just a fouled plug (only drove 15 min, it ran too good to have a blown rotor in my opinion, I was thinking map sensor or vacuum hose. I think the rebuild wont need much more then a seal kit and maybe a rotor housing (thank you to thewird for giving me advice) I am still debating on getting another shortblock from a 13b-re, so if anyone knows where I can get one in Canada for cheap, let me know please. I need it to be good enough to use for the rest of the season, even if no boost is required. The turbo still spooled fine after it went, so what Im realllllllllly hoping for is just a stuck of crack seal like thewird, I hope im that lucky. I suppose its my fault, I was giving a mustang owner a ride of his life, and it was worth it when he said I would whoop his car as well as all his (5) other muscle car friends hands down. That made me feel better about the situation haha, I am thinking maybe ceramic seals too, if they are really as good as people say they are, I want em!
04-20-11, 11:24 AM
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I guess the worst feeling was back in 1991. I was at a merge, waiting for the pickup truck in front of me to go. An opening came, and I assumed he had already gone, but BANG, I put the nose of my 84 GSL-SE under his trailer hitch. New bumper cover, valence, hood and headlight covers. The only good thing was it allowed me the opportunity to put a Pacific T-Top body package on the car while it was being repainted. The car has not been repainted since 1991 (see below).
The second worse thing was back in 2003 while I was on the track at Atlantic Motorsports Park, competing in a SoloSprint. AMP is a 1.6 mile road course (www.atlanticmotorsportpark.com) in our area. I was on the back stretch revving at about 8000 rpm in 3rd gear, and meant to shift into 4th. I hit 2nd instead and it revved to about 14,000 rpm. When the revs finally came back so that the tachometer could register, I thought the engine was gone. Fortunately the rotary motor is far more forgiving than a piston engine and the engine continued for many more years.
Steve
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The second worse thing was back in 2003 while I was on the track at Atlantic Motorsports Park, competing in a SoloSprint. AMP is a 1.6 mile road course (www.atlanticmotorsportpark.com) in our area. I was on the back stretch revving at about 8000 rpm in 3rd gear, and meant to shift into 4th. I hit 2nd instead and it revved to about 14,000 rpm. When the revs finally came back so that the tachometer could register, I thought the engine was gone. Fortunately the rotary motor is far more forgiving than a piston engine and the engine continued for many more years.
Steve
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